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by ekrolo2
Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:06 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong is Base Vegetto (Manga)?
Replies: 47
Views: 7272

Re: How strong is Base Vegetto (Manga)?

Impossible to say. In the Manga he only appears for a couple of pages and immediately transforms. The only thing that can conclusively be said on the matter is that he's not strong enough by his own estimate to beat Boohan without SS.
by ekrolo2
Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
Replies: 5562
Views: 549040

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Saw the movie again. Toriyama was messing with the audience in regards to Gohan. The movie hammered in Gohan's rustiness: get's punched, doesn't recognize Piccolo, complains about weighted clothing, etc. This was bait. Piccolo is representative of the public, who wants Gohan to thrive and sees his ...
by ekrolo2
Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:44 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Super's growth in power was lackluster
Replies: 27
Views: 3310

Re: Super's growth in power was lackluster

The power growth up to the ToP was fine. Goku shot past the Hakaishin but not in a permanent way that left him room to grow. The following material, particularly the Manga, keeping him stuck nebulously under Beerus despite him completing and advancing UI is completely ridiculous.
by ekrolo2
Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:12 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828593

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

People actually thought this chapter proved Beerus > the rest? He clearly CAN'T finish Moro in a heartbeat, if that were the case he'd have done it before going to see the GP. The previous chapter was already pretty clear about how UI and Moro compare to Broly, Jiren, Zamasu There's a reason why we...
by ekrolo2
Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:00 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Read this Gohan arc take on reddit. Whats your take on this?
Replies: 29
Views: 2821

Re: Read this Gohan arc take on reddit. Whats your take on this?

but all the moments OP described where gohan did pretty well were "meaningless death matches", it's only against cell that he suddenly turns into a vegan hippy pacifist until a robot he never met tells him "hey gohan i like birds" and then dies, triggering gohan to go into schoo...
by ekrolo2
Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:36 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Super or GT poll
Replies: 153
Views: 9694

Re: Super or GT poll

Toriyama bullshit his way through 90% of the DB with no plan. There are 2 things worth taking into account. 1- Toriyama did plan things out, such as planning Namek while writing the 23rd Tenkaichi arc, or going into the Buu arc knowing it would be the final one. 2- Although he didn't plan out as mu...
by ekrolo2
Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:18 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Super or GT poll
Replies: 153
Views: 9694

Re: Super or GT poll

Toriyama bullshit his way through 90% of the DB with no plan. Which is fine when he's the guy doing the writing and art himself on a consistent basis. It's not a very desirable quality for the kind of role he had on Super where he went Stan Lee.
by ekrolo2
Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:15 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828593

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Beerus was never weaker than him. Fans just assumed that, using their own headcanon. That’s all. Nowhere has it ever been officially stated that MUI Goku surpasses Beerus.. Someone didn't watch 110 then. I did.. Couldn’t find it.. Perhaps you need to watch it again. https://i.imgur.com/SGVz0Cs.jpg ...
by ekrolo2
Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:02 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828593

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

If you see the spoilers of chapter #66, you will figure out that there are some characters that feel even more overpowered. Did they really retcon Beerus > UI? Beerus was never weaker than him. Fans just assumed that, using their own headcanon. That’s all. Nowhere has it ever been officially stated...
by ekrolo2
Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828593

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Hugo Boss wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:25 am
shadd21 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:16 pm Does anyone else feel Goku has gotten a little too overpowered with MUI?
If you see the spoilers of chapter #66, you will figure out that there are some characters that feel even more overpowered.
Did they really retcon Beerus > UI?
by ekrolo2
Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:48 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: To those who think Goku doesn’t care about Chi Chi, why didn’t he offer her to the old Kaioshin?
Replies: 39
Views: 4803

Re: To those who think Goku doesn’t care about Chi Chi, why didn’t he offer her to the old Kaioshin?

Goku obviously cares, though the second time he tries to make the deal he does add that Chi-Chi will kill him if he does that to her.
by ekrolo2
Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:53 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42683
Views: 5576821

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Does anyone have the line where the manga is called promotional material?
by ekrolo2
Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:52 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Super Saiyan Rosé - The Anime's interpretation (Compared to the Manga's)
Replies: 73
Views: 17258

Re: Super Saiyan Rosé - The Anime's interpretation (Compared to the Manga's)

Black is a God occupying Goku's body, so, if he went Super Saiyan he'd naturally use God ki resulting in an altered SS. This is in line with SSGSS being just SS with a different ki source/power running through it.
by ekrolo2
Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:48 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: When should the rematch Goku vs Beerus take place?
Replies: 21
Views: 4256

Re: When should the rematch Goku vs Beerus take place?

Beerus has already been Roshi'd so there's no need for a rematch.
by ekrolo2
Tue May 26, 2020 11:44 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Should fans write for official products ?
Replies: 89
Views: 7310

Re: Should fans write for official products ?

This would apply to all IP. Technological advances, medical advances and entertainment/art advances--all advancements belong to the people. So if you created or worked hard for something, someone who just sits around has the right to share the profits with you ? It's easy to be entitled to the prof...
by ekrolo2
Tue May 26, 2020 11:08 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Should fans write for official products ?
Replies: 89
Views: 7310

Re: Should fans write for official products ?

Fans getting to officially write a product is is just like anything, it can be good, bad or anything in-between. Dragon Ball is pretty consistently shit at it save a few jokes from the Yamcha manga.
by ekrolo2
Fri May 08, 2020 8:53 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Lore
Replies: 172
Views: 17489

Re: Dragon Ball Lore

No one was talking about the appeal of the character, we're saying that a backstory for the important characters is essential for the story itself in general (this is storytelling 101). Nobody here ever said that a detailed backstory is needed for a character to liked. And yet Dragon Ball breaks th...
by ekrolo2
Mon May 04, 2020 9:49 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Lore
Replies: 172
Views: 17489

Re: Dragon Ball Lore

It negates the point that a backstory is essential. What is far more essential is what the character wants and what they are willing to do to get it. Precisely. Goku worked as a protagonist with a single sentence of backstory total for six arcs which amounts to nearly half of the original run conte...
by ekrolo2
Sun May 03, 2020 9:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Could All Of The ToP Contestants Take On The Hakaishin?
Replies: 39
Views: 4602

Re: Could All Of The ToP Contestants Take On The Hakaishin?

Jiren is the only one who can fight (and beat) them unless Goku gets UI out again. All the rest? Useless.
by ekrolo2
Sun May 03, 2020 9:27 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Lore
Replies: 172
Views: 17489

Re: Dragon Ball Lore

That doesn't negate the fact that Goku still got one at all before Z, simple or not. It negates the point that a backstory is essential. What is far more essential is what the character wants and what they are willing to do to get it. Precisely. Goku worked as a protagonist with a single sentence o...