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by emperior
Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:44 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Lets have a peaceful discussion about grievances with modern Dragon ball.
Replies: 104
Views: 3649

Re: Lets have a peaceful discussion about grievances with modern Dragon ball.

Now that they have finally fixed the show’s look with new gorgeous designs and colours, I think the only true grievance I have with modern Dragon Ball is the lack of blood. I hope they will bring it back.
by emperior
Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:38 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Can they fix Minus in the new movie?
Replies: 44
Views: 1749

Re: Can they fix Minus in the new movie?

I’m going spoilerless from the 14th of November, so I may as well let out my opinions before the plot gets all spoiled out. I am glad that they basically spoiled nothing meaningful so far. I fully believe Minus can be fixed. I am also sure that, even if Toriyama considers it perfect and left it as i...
by emperior
Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:15 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?
Replies: 231
Views: 10656

Re: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?

It's shame for the old hermit that he's not young enough to take advantage of the health and vivacity of a person's physical prime. If he were a 20 something year old man once again being allowed to partake in these training regimens, who's to say how far he could go; maybe not with respect to raw ...
by emperior
Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:47 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?
Replies: 231
Views: 10656

Re: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?

It's shame for the old hermit that he's not young enough to take advantage of the health and vivacity of a person's physical prime. If he were a 20 something year old man once again being allowed to partake in these training regimens, who's to say how far he could go; maybe not with respect to raw ...
by emperior
Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:08 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?
Replies: 231
Views: 10656

Re: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?

My problem with fight isn't necessarily the power scaling, but more the implication that Roshi is a fighter that has had, and has always had techniques more advanced than those of Goku that allow him to close gaps in power, which to me, completely shatters any suspension of disbelief on every conce...
by emperior
Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:25 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?
Replies: 231
Views: 10656

Re: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?

It's actually really simple The character who in the original manga was freaked out by the speed of Goku and Tien's fight in the 22nd BT https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-75wM8zzXpyw/VcXbFM1pyZI/AAAAAAAAYHU/oGBeq7oCX9Q/w1277-h463-no/6.jpg Can now suddenly dodge attacks from a character who is so f...
by emperior
Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?
Replies: 231
Views: 10656

Re: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?

Those same people should explain 17, Trunks vs fused Zamasu, infinite stamina, final-sorry just kidding- explosion, etc. The only legitimate beef should be with Toriyama for including Roshi in the ToP in the first place. Fans want these old school characters' to "shine" when their arcs ar...
by emperior
Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 27551
Views: 1530766

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

No amount of tranquility at Roshis level should even give him the ability to dodge a hit from Jiren. Even if he’s not really trying. This is probably going to be my last post on the Jiren vs. Roshi stuff for a while because I'm tired of arguing about it. Jiren "wasn't really trying" becau...
by emperior
Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:20 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 27551
Views: 1530766

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Well we don't know everything about Toriyama to say that for a fact. Yes, we know he was a fan of Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan. He watched the Drunken Fist Master and even put "Jackie Chun" as a pun to reference him. Goku may have not moved with a bell in the manga, but the fundamentals of b...
by emperior
Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:13 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 12370
Views: 509428

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

So no sign of news from the V-Jump ? :| They just published some Broly designs we had already seen. Nothing new in it, unfortunately. They still hold back Golden Freeza’s full design, God Vegeta’s, Vegeta in his Buu arc clothes, front shots of Blue Goku and God Goku and Bulma full designs for some ...
by emperior
Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:09 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 27551
Views: 1530766

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Toriyama was a huge martial arts fan. Goku learns something new from each master. As I said previously, Goku learned about minimizing unnecessary movements from trying to catch Korin. In fact, Roshi had to do the same thing after he climbed Korin's tower. Goku isn't perfect. When he met Mr. Popo, h...
by emperior
Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:37 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?
Replies: 231
Views: 10656

Re: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?

It’s the same man who took 3 years to get some water from Korin, after all. And he was trying dirty tricks to take it, so he wasn’t exactly a fighting genius as Toyotaro portrays him to be. He also never received training from Popo and Kami and so he never learned how to fight with his eyes closed. ...
by emperior
Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:43 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 27551
Views: 1530766

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

It doesn't require strength, but it most definitely requires speed and agility far out of the realm of Roshi when dodging against someone of Jiren's level. Yeah it’s definitely easy to dodge something moving at speeds you can’t physically react to. I'm gonna stop you both right there. This, again, ...
by emperior
Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 27551
Views: 1530766

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I really cannot praise the Master Roshi bit enough, like it felt like I was reading Dragon Ball again. It really saved the chapter and is gonna be a memorable moment for the series for sure. Can you tell me which version of Dragon Ball manga features the same Roshi who appeared in this chapter? The...
by emperior
Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:20 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 27551
Views: 1530766

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Kokonoe wrote:I really cannot praise the Master Roshi bit enough, like it felt like I was reading Dragon Ball again. It really saved the chapter and is gonna be a memorable moment for the series for sure.

Can you tell me which version of Dragon Ball manga features the same Roshi who appeared in this chapter?
by emperior
Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:09 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 27551
Views: 1530766

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

That’s the contradiction as Roshi explicitly calls Goku out because he focuses only on strength and has forgotten what his masters taught him. I read the chapter. Roshi specifically mentioned Frieza and Vegeta because, to beat them, all Goku had to do was power up to new forms. That has been Goku's...
by emperior
Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 27551
Views: 1530766

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I just don’t understand how people think Kame-Sennin dodging Jiren means he got some crazy power up. I didn’t know dodging required great strength lol Yeah it’s definitely easy to dodge something moving at speeds you can’t physically react to. It’s why you always see the soldiers trained in martial...
by emperior
Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:45 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 27551
Views: 1530766

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

The thing that stands out is Toyo contradicted himself. Even in the Super manga, Goku is shown to be a master by how he outsmarted Botamo instead of going to his full power, figures out how to counter Hit’s Time-Skip, did a baby version of the Super Saiyan God to Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan switc...
by emperior
Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:51 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 27551
Views: 1530766

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I wouldn’t call Raditz and Freeza martial artists. Raditz is closer to a soldier and Freeza never even trained before being revived. If they could keep up with Goku, they were. That's what the logic of Goku vs Caulifla established and it can't be escaped, just like the manga's logic can't be now. S...
by emperior
Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 27551
Views: 1530766

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I don’t care about Gohan being that strong to be honest. It may be bullshit for some for Gohan to be this strong or for Kefla to be this weak, but it doesn’t go against anything established before hand, and we don’t know how strong Kefla is. Gohan is surely around Blue level in both the anime and m...

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