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by LowRyder2005
Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:05 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37469
Views: 3405013

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

1. Jiren vs all the Gods of Destruction (Anime versions only)? How many does he take down before being defeated? 2. Omega Shenron, Bebi Vegeta, Super 17 run the Super Gauntlet. They are healed after every fight. And have knowledge of every fighter. Bebi can not infect anyone. How far do they go too...
by LowRyder2005
Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:26 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836961

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

*sigh* Guess I should've edited the post sooner. You're over exaggerating immensely and badly misinterpret anything I said in some incredibly lousy and patronizing attempt to discredit any valid counterpoints. Absolutely not. Basically every single of your inferences naturally relies on some assumpt...
by LowRyder2005
Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836961

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Well his feats or lack there of certainly bear witness to that. I agree with you that all characters need more Destruction feats of larger scale, but they should not be underestimated, even tho they don't have feats. For example both on ComicVine and Vs Battles websites, the majority claim that onl...
by LowRyder2005
Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:37 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836961

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Something interesting: U2's Kaioshin, Pell, is stated to possess power greater than U7's South Kaioshin in his Toei bio. Present Zamasu was stated to be second to none, thus Zamasu > Pell > South. That'd mean he's stronger than Kid Buu (depending on where you place South Kaioshin)? I'm interested. ...
by LowRyder2005
Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:57 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37469
Views: 3405013

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

As a premise, I have Gohan on "trained" base Saiyan levels (i.e. Goku in the Buu arc) and Super!Goku on High-Android Levels (#16 basically). But Beerus said base Goku was weaker than Frieza, and even after he went ssj he wasn't impressed, saying Frieza was still the best he could do. Thou...
by LowRyder2005
Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:15 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37469
Views: 3405013

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Obuni... Who can he defeat in this list? As a premise, I have Gohan on "trained" base Saiyan levels (i.e. Goku in the Buu arc) and Super!Goku on High-Android Levels (#16 basically). Obuni states that he appreciates base Gohan can keep up with him, and I interpreted it as base Gohan not be...
by LowRyder2005
Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:55 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836961

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

You should really wait until the matter of the identity of the God who beat Beerus at arm-wrestling is solved beyond reasonable doubt.
by LowRyder2005
Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:59 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Freeza, Pants and Mortal Levels: A Serious Theory
Replies: 14
Views: 6190

Re: Freeza, Pants and Mortal Levels: A Serious Theory

So, the question becomes: does he wear pants under his skin?
by LowRyder2005
Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:48 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Does the franchise/fandom pre-2013 (pre Beerus and Super) now feel like a distant memory?
Replies: 102
Views: 15848

Re: Does the franchise/fandom pre-2013 (pre Beerus and Super) now feel like a distant memory?

Yeah, it was a much less frustrating landscape back then. But let's be real, new content can only improve sites like this one where people are actually pleasant. Without it, the site would naturally lose steam faster. Without it, the Wiki's completion might still be a feasible goal. Sadly, this.
by LowRyder2005
Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:10 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836961

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Alright, if base Gohan after training with the Z Sword (His peak on Z) is a 100. How are these compared to him? BoG arc base Gohan: RoF arc base Gohan: U6 arc base Gohan: FT arc base Gohan: ToP arc base Gohan: Given how much the current base Gohan stacks compared to his Buu saga self I've come to r...
by LowRyder2005
Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:18 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37469
Views: 3405013

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Dude, what? you just put anime and manga together :eh: In the anime, Whis said "there is a universe where lives a mortal that even a God can't defeat, that God is stronger than Beerus" and Beerus said that it was only an arm wrestling match. Herms, that is reliable, said that this mortal ...
by LowRyder2005
Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:20 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836961

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I'm sorry don't you have a precious master thesis you have to work on because you've fallen back doing God knows what behind close doors.....yet, here you are posting useless factoids about your personal life (Excuse my French, no one gives a damn about) complete with stuck up elitism style posting...
by LowRyder2005
Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:43 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836961

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I'm just saying you're doing this bizarre way of thinking were you are trying awfully hard to make the world come off as simple else rather than simply taking it at face value like everyone else. Again, you're "maybe Vegeta wasn't starting out or whatever" is again your baseless assumptio...
by LowRyder2005
Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:25 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836961

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

'kay. Let's see if now that I've been forced to wallpost you can make a suitable answer without four dozens quotes and sticking to the point. Can you please keep it surmised and neat? As a matter of fact, I have a master's thesis to write - I'm quite behind it, in fact - and I'd rather not lose hal...
by LowRyder2005
Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:00 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836961

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I don't know, its like you're trying to imply Vegeta could be lower than 10% to say even 5%, or even 1%, or even lower, but if that's the case you have no problem with Vegeta being say 5x, 10x, 20x, or higherthan Goku in the same forms since he's much stronger than Black in the same form that was s...
by LowRyder2005
Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:58 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37469
Views: 3405013

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Is it a real question? We know the God who beat Beerus at arm wrestling can't beat Jiren; this God should be stronger than Beerus and this God should be Quitela. Okay, you could put a hypothetical if you reaaaally think that Beerus is actually stronger than Quitela after all or that more than one G...
by LowRyder2005
Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836961

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Well, the entire point of whis' statement was to explain why exactly Vegeta got his ass handed to him by Hit in the first place to Beerus which serves as a reference point for the audience, we don't know how much lower Vegeta was other than somewhere below 10% his full power , if it was anymore it ...
by LowRyder2005
Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:59 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37469
Views: 3405013

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

:think: Who say that is stronger than Beerus and Quitela but not than Vermoud? and who say that Vermoud>Beerus/Quitela? the only thing that we know, is that Jiren is Hakaishin level and he has possibly surpassed that level, that's all. Is it a real question? We know the God who beat Beerus at arm w...
by LowRyder2005
Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:46 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: meaning of zenoh?! and other things!
Replies: 12
Views: 11492

Re: meaning of zenoh?! and other things!

"Zen'oh (全王)" has a rather clear-cut translation, which is "King (王) of Everything (全)".
by LowRyder2005
Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37469
Views: 3405013

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Jiren isn't necessarily stronger than Belmond; he is, however, stronger than Beerus and Quitela. :think: Who say that is stronger than Beerus and Quitela but not than Vermoud? and who say that Vermoud>Beerus/Quitela? the only thing that we know, is that Jiren is Hakaishin level and he has possibly ...