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by apex_pretador
Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:45 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 83 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 313
Views: 27382

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 83 - Official Discussion Thread

Peach wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:16 am If Bardock got insanely strong by thinking about absolute victory, why couldn't he defeat Frieza then?
Because Freeza is crazy powerful. He could probably finger flick Bardock's head off.
by apex_pretador
Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:12 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: I don't understand why people keep believing Nappa's power-level is 4,000
Replies: 24
Views: 3406

Re: I don't understand why people keep believing Nappa's power-level is 4,000

The "4000" number for Nappa comes from the same source as 3500 number for Piccolo in the same battle. When we compare the two battles, we can absolutely see how this cannot be true: Piccolo vs "playing around" Nappa: Even when working as a team, Piccolo struggles to land his blas...
by apex_pretador
Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:19 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1589102

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Messing around a little bit. How about "what if battle powers were introduced at the beginning of the story and didn't need large leaps to be overwhelming?" Let's assume that 1.3x stronger is enough to overwhelm an enemy, like Vegeta (24,000) did to Kewi (18,000)! The Hunt for the Dragon ...
by apex_pretador
Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How Much Of A Difference Would Doubling Goku & Piccolo's Power Have Against Raditz?
Replies: 14
Views: 1666

Re: How Much Of A Difference Would Doubling Goku & Piccolo's Power Have Against Raditz?

Their power levels were in 900's. Goku's power level was read as 924 when he fired an uncharged kamehameha. This is further confirmed by Vegeta saying Raditz lost to guys with Power Level "barely over 1000". Double the power levels and then GOku and Piccolo never team up because Piccolo's ...
by apex_pretador
Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836508

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

instead of the placement of Broly in the current heirarchy, I have a more interesting question in mind - where do the heeters crew stand in relation to old baddies (ginyu force and Namek Freeza), and approximately how strong was old Granolah (before wish)?
by apex_pretador
Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:54 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37469
Views: 3404781

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

1) Lady Videl from the World Tournament Saga would have been comparable to Son Goku from when Son Goku would have met Lady Bulma for the very first time in Dragon Ball , so unless the Saibaman Lady Videl would have been fighting was in fact much weaker than Nappa's very own batch of Saibamen, then ...
by apex_pretador
Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:48 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37469
Views: 3404781

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Been a while since I logged in. Will answer a few pages How about some team matches? Firstly, a battle royale: Team 1: MSS Goku (Cell Games), MSS Gohan (Cell Games), Perfect Cell Team 2: Frost, SS Cabba, Magetta Team 3: OG73-I, Granolah, Gas Secondly, a 1v1 knockout tournament in the same fashion as...
by apex_pretador
Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:55 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Kakarotto be able to conquer Earth?
Replies: 20
Views: 2970

Re: Would Kakarotto be able to conquer Earth?

He definitely would be capable of doing so. It's not like he would go into rampage or something. He will just be a feral child till 15-16 years of age, and will either kill everyone he comes across, or run away if outmatched. A far wilder temperament due to not hitting his head will make him grow in...
by apex_pretador
Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:39 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Kid Goku didn't have a power-level of ten at the beginning of DB.
Replies: 21
Views: 7075

Re: Kid Goku didn't have a power-level of ten at the beginning of DB.

IF an avg human is 5, then a saber-toothed tiger is ATLEAST 6, putting Krillin atleast at 7 (he one-shot a sabertoothed tiger), and a tailless goku wrecked him bad. A normal grizzly bear shouldn't be below 6, likely 7, and a 20 ft super-agile bear bandit with fighting skills not below 10-15. Goku on...
by apex_pretador
Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:23 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1589102

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Given the canon BoZ numbers of: - Goku (FP) 924 - Farmer 5 - Tenshinhan 250 - Krillin 206 - Yamcha 177 how would you place the following characters? Nam King Chappa (both appearances, separately) Pamput Tao Pai Pai (human) Grandpa Gohan, Mummy and Akkuman Yajirobe (first appearance) Wasn't there a ...
by apex_pretador
Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Where did the powercreep really start?
Replies: 30
Views: 5323

Re: Where did the powercreep really start?

Well not factoring in the "scouter numbers", here are my thoughts: - Krillin is weaker than General Blue. - Blue can effectively take out Goku, Krillin and Roshi at the same time. - Tao Pai Pai casually and effortlessly kills blue WITH HIS TONGUE - He pretty much kills Goku in 3 hits. Goku...
by apex_pretador
Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:54 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Who Else Has the Potential to Turn 'Good'?
Replies: 28
Views: 4029

Re: Who Else Has the Potential to Turn 'Good'?

Anyone except Cell. I just cannot imagine cell ever turning good
by apex_pretador
Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:25 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37469
Views: 3404781

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

New battles 1. Piccolo (merged with the U6 namekians) vs Ssjb Goku (RoF)? 2. Cooler (5th form) vs Ssj Trunks (First appearance)? 3. Gogeta Blue vs Vegito Blue (ToP, no time limit)? 4. SsjB Vegeta (Moro) vs Ssj Kefla? 5. GoD Toppo, SsjB Goku (kkx20), SsjBE Vegeta, Ssj2 Kefla, Aniraza vs FP Broly (To...
by apex_pretador
Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:29 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1589102

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Given the canon BoZ numbers of:
- Goku (FP) 924
- Farmer 5
- Tenshinhan 250
- Krillin 206
- Yamcha 177

how would you place the following characters?
  • Nam
  • King Chappa (both appearances, separately)
  • Pamput
  • Tao Pai Pai (human)
  • Grandpa Gohan, Mummy and Akkuman
  • Yajirobe (first appearance)
by apex_pretador
Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:12 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Characters who were wasted in the TOP (potential wise)
Replies: 56
Views: 17924

Re: Characters who were wasted in the TOP (potential wise)

There are a lot of characters who could have been a lot better, but weren't. 1. Hit: He barely had enough screen-time. He had two inconclusive matches back-to-back against Goku, and instead of having a third thrilling encounter against him to finally decide the winner, or even a fight against Toppo,...
by apex_pretador
Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:55 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So.. Jiren or Broly, who is stronger?
Replies: 57
Views: 15702

Re: So.. Jiren or Broly, who is stronger?

Jiren is stronger, almost without a doubt. Broly fought Golden Freeza for like one hour if not more so, and Freeza was still conscious, still golden and still on his feet. In the end he was barely damaged. Before that, he gave Final form freeza a beatdown which made him smile. Jiren manhandled him a...
by apex_pretador
Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:50 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Who are the top 5 most important characters in DB-DBZ-DBS?
Replies: 38
Views: 11323

Re: Who are the top 5 most important characters in DB-DBZ-DBS?

I once did a thread back then where I listed top ten most important characters in each arc and ranked them in total. It was a while ago, but Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo, Freeza, Bulma, Krillin were the top ranked characters. If I had to choose 5 only for the entire series, then it would go: 1. Goku...
by apex_pretador
Sun May 27, 2018 12:14 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Interesting or funny pictures thread
Replies: 9898
Views: 1598369

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Ki Breaker wrote:Image
Should have happened
by apex_pretador
Thu May 03, 2018 4:53 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1589102

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Regarding Dabura - is everyone going to forget that he was beating up a post Z sword training SS Trunks and shin at the same time? And even after Trunks achieved SS2, it took a team effort to defeat him? To me it makes everything clear that Gohan was meant to be SS2. All it really shows is the same...
by apex_pretador
Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:43 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1589102

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Regarding Dabura - is everyone going to forget that he was beating up a post Z sword training SS Trunks and shin at the same time? And even after Trunks achieved SS2, it took a team effort to defeat him?

To me it makes everything clear that Gohan was meant to be SS2.