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by sintzu
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 9184
Views: 366847

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

miguelnuva1 wrote:If Bardock is not added to the scene from the trailer in the film which I think he will be Frieza could have shot him down in this version before blowing up the planet.


Could that scene be him destroying another planet ? Trailers do tend to mislead people.
by sintzu
Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:44 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta’s role in the upcoming movie.
Replies: 16
Views: 678

Re: Vegeta’s role in the upcoming movie.

This seems like the perfect opportunity for Vegeta to get the main win. Considering all facts and statements surrounding it.. If Vegeta is ever going to get a main win it'll only happen once so it's better to save it for when he eventually gets UI. With Gogeta being in this movie I don't see how th...
by sintzu
Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:00 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 9184
Views: 366847

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

precita wrote:Are people seriously getting triggered over one user saying, "Bardock died like a man?" And then people accusing him of sexism?


Those are SJWs for you.
by sintzu
Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:13 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Can I just ignore Super's existence?
Replies: 57
Views: 1443

Re: Can I just ignore Super's existence?

Unfortunately you can't, since it's a canon continuation. It's not like GT or the movies. For better or worse, it's there. How is it not ? if he chooses to watch/read DB&Z only and can still get a complete story out of them without the need to watch/read Super then it's exactly like GT and the ...
by sintzu
Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:21 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Why are they retconning the original Bardock special? Now it's no longer canon?
Replies: 199
Views: 4388

Re: Why are they retconning the original Bardock special? Now it's no longer canon?

The fact is in terms of production modern DB does not have the same creative process as the original manga. This is fact it shows in the artistic process and product. Toriyama's manga had different creative processes during serialization by the mere fact he had different editors, so you need to sto...
by sintzu
Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:33 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could 17 go Super 17 on his own?
Replies: 13
Views: 237

Re: Could 17 go Super 17 on his own?

I think it would make more sense for 17 to have Bulma build him a new body (Super 17's) and have his brain moved into it.
by sintzu
Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:55 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?
Replies: 907
Views: 67615

Re: What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?

Jackalope89 wrote:The outrage that a non-canon special is officially non-canon.


It's not as lame as being OK with the retcons just because of who wrote them, especially when compared to the story reasons people give for defending the special.
by sintzu
Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:42 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?
Replies: 907
Views: 67615

Re: What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?

People defending the retcons Toriyama is doing to the lore based on the changes coming from Toriyama, yet would throw anyone else under the bus for the same or less without a second thought.
by sintzu
Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:27 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 9184
Views: 366847

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Miracles wrote:So what's popular to whine about now concerning Toriyama's story about Bardock and company?


Goku's backstory is like Superman's now.

Bardock's special is no longer "canon".

Freeza has a new base design.

Goku and Vegeta's ages are now closer to each other.
by sintzu
Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:14 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta’s role in the upcoming movie.
Replies: 16
Views: 678

Re: Vegeta’s role in the upcoming movie.

Fair enough. I just wanted to point out that Toriyama INDEED was thinking about giving Vegeta the leading role for once. I just hope my theory is not a total BS :D. Gogeta (the worst kept secret of this movie) is most likely going to defeat Broly so despite Vegeta possibly leading in some way and h...
by sintzu
Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:13 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta’s role in the upcoming movie.
Replies: 16
Views: 678

Re: Vegeta’s role in the upcoming movie.

He got few minutes of beating up WEAKENED Frieza and then he just got blew up along with the planet. Goku was the one to deliver the final blow. Is this kind of the main role you’re talking about? This movie makes much more sense based on the troops I gave you. Would you have rather seen Vegeta get...
by sintzu
Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta’s role in the upcoming movie.
Replies: 16
Views: 678

Re: Vegeta’s role in the upcoming movie.

The movie Toriyama was talking about was the yet to be announced Resurrection F and Vegeta got that main role by not only being Goku's equal but also beating Freeza. Vegeta's role in this movie has more to do with his role in the story naturally progressing towards something better, it has nothing t...
by sintzu
Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:45 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?
Replies: 907
Views: 67615

Re: What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?

SheonGT wrote:I like the idea of Bardock somehow becoming the first Super Saiyan, striking fear into Frieza’s entire family and driving Frieza to destroy Vegeta in the first place.


The idea itself was good but it's a shame they didn't come up with a new character instead.
by sintzu
Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:44 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Can I just ignore Super's existence?
Replies: 57
Views: 1443

Re: Can I just ignore Super's existence?

I do. It feels like nothing but fan service to sell merchandise at this point. You’re telling me that after all of GT, that Pan, Gohan’s daughter can’t go super saiyan despite Trunks doing it in diapers? And that all of a sudden the first female super daiyans are total rule 34 bait? A total slap in...
by sintzu
Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:10 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 9184
Views: 366847

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Basically, he was a tragic antihero who failed but succeeded through his son And in order to fail, he has at least to try. If he doesn't even try, he won't fail, and it will ruin the character badly. So you see, his stand cannot be denied even in the wildest dreams. It has to happen. Bardock's last...
by sintzu
Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:32 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 9184
Views: 366847

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

So this movie will retcon the Bardock Special, Broly's character and backstory, Bardock's character and backstory, Goku's backstory, Vegeta's age, AND Frieza's first form appearance? :crazy: My childhood basically never happened. Except for Freeza, none of that was part of the actual story. Freeza ...
by sintzu
Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:25 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Why are they retconning the original Bardock special? Now it's no longer canon?
Replies: 199
Views: 4388

Re: Why are they retconning the original Bardock special? Now it's no longer canon?

FortuneSSJ wrote:If you don't want your character to be seen as a typical superhero, you don't make his backstory exactly the same than the most well known superhero.


So Bardock and Gine will be getting shot in an alley and Goku will swear to avenge them ? :shock:
by sintzu
Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:19 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 9184
Views: 366847

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

fadeddreams5 wrote:So this movie will retcon the Bardock Special, Broly's character and backstory, Bardock's character and backstory, Goku's backstory, Vegeta's age, AND Frieza's first form appearance? :crazy:

My childhood basically never happened.


I won't be surprised if these retcons get retconed in a few years.
by sintzu
Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:57 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Why Does everyone Take Dragon Ball So Seriously?
Replies: 99
Views: 2426

Re: Why Does everyone Take Dragon Ball So Seriously?

So, I believe much of this sentiment comes from fans grappling with something they grew up with possibly not being as stellar as they once thought. Accusing people of nostalgia is never a good argument to make when trying to discuss why a continuation of a series is received negatively in compariso...
by sintzu
Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:44 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Can I just ignore Super's existence?
Replies: 57
Views: 1443

Re: Can I just ignore Super's existence?

No one's pulling the original material off the market so yes, if you just like the original 2 anime and their movies then by all means, you can ignore everything else. Super has shown why people have wanted DB to continue and why others wanted it to stay finished so you're not alone in that opinion....

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