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by DBZAOTA482
Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:09 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

No. Siskel and Ebert were well known household names. If they talked about something, chances are that thing's existence would be general public knowledge. Meaning, anime was in the mainstream public consciousness. And this has all been a huge tangent anyway: nobody gonna bring up shit like Astro B...
by DBZAOTA482
Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:31 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

Sure, it didn't single handedly push anime into the mainstream (and I don't think anyone said it did?) but it was a symptom of anime's growing presence in the states. The main thing here is anime had gone mainstream well before DBZ did . All DBZ did was introduce its target audience to anime and (a...
by DBZAOTA482
Mon Aug 29, 2022 12:52 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

Sure, it didn't single handedly push anime into the mainstream (and I don't think anyone said it did?) but it was a symptom of anime's growing presence in the states. The main thing here is anime had gone mainstream well before DBZ did . All DBZ did was introduce its target audience to anime and (a...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:55 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

Again, for the millionth time, this has never been the point. Except it was. Osama Bin Laden was well-known, but would you call him "mainstream"? Akira is a cult hit that allowed for more mature anime to be released by showing it wasn't just "kiddie" stuff. It can be violent (gr...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:24 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

I'm sure he was good at his craft ( I've heard about him but never really looked into his work) and enjoyed quite a bit of success throughout his career, but pointing him on the same level as Steven Spielberg or Bruce Willis is really pushing it. I'm pretty sure that's the point. Siskel and Ebert a...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:52 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

This is emblematic of what makes trying to talk basic facts of reality so infuriating with you: Roger Ebert wasn't just some random, generic movie critic. The dude was an actual, honest to god celebrity for his time. He had a nationally televised show ("At The Movies") about movies that a...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:10 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

Two mainstream journalists (since I'm starting to think the concept of movie critics is triggering you and making you misunderstand the point) were talking about an anime movie and identifying it as Japanese animation. 'Member when you used a WSJ article talking about DBZ? Because apparently you do...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:13 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

I'd ask you to point out where I contradicted myself but since you still never understood my point no matter how often I repeated it point blank... Because you proved nothing. Oh a movie "critic" talked about a movie he saw? Big deal. He said it's "a best seller".... that's such...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:02 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

Dunno what you talking about but from my experiences, a wider variety of anime is increasingly available for the past decades. A middle aged looking man gave me props for wearing a YYH shirt at work. The days of the "Mons" tainting the image of anime are well behind us. The culture vulture...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:51 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

What the fuck do you think mainstream means? Things that are considered "cool" or "trendy" by society. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/mainstream Thanks for proving me right. Now I don't have to read through your pointless rambling. https://www.merriam-web...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:40 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I just nearly broke a rib from laughing so hard. Once you get so high on your own ego, it causes you to act crazy so I see why. ...shows you're still not getting it! Holy shit. :lol: :lol: You're not getting your own point. Keep contradicting yourself. What...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:06 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

I know I've been going on and on like a broken record but you're still not getting it. I get what you're saying. You're just mad that I don't agree with you. Take your lick like a man. The point I'm making has had nothing to do with "people listen to movie critics to influence their buying dec...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 2:42 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

What the fuck is a 'seasoned anime fan'? I've been an anime fan for twenty-five years and people from my generation either like it or would ask why the hell anyone cares whether they like it or not. I know tons if people had fond memories of the first few seasons and that's understandable. It was a...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:43 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

The most well known movie critics. With their own show. They're not some nobodies nobody has ever heard of. They're not nobody per say as in nobody has heard of them or they don't have an audience. Just that the average joe isn't really thinking about these things. People tend to buy on impulse esp...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:36 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

Not the point I was making at all. Like how do you keep doing that? Nobody is this obtuse, and yet here you are. You seem to think a critic talking about a movie somehow means "SEE?! ANIME WAS ALWAYS MAINSTREAM!!!". Those old farts never made a movie why should I care what they think? A l...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:21 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

Not the point I was making at all. Like how do you keep doing that? Nobody is this obtuse, and yet here you are. You seem to think a critic talking about a movie somehow means "SEE?! ANIME WAS ALWAYS MAINSTREAM!!!". Those old farts never made a movie why should I care what they think? A l...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:04 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

And yet I still stayed into and became a bigger fan of anime through their various anime licenses. Hell, my username is a Yuugi-Ou reference. Pokemon and Yuugi-Ou 's popularity is a big part of what led to other companies licensing so many other Japanese series and films. Iirc the success of Sailor...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:15 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

No, we hated 4Kids because they only released edited, dub-only released of their cartoons, mocked fans of the original and were racist and xenophobic as hell. 4Kids absolutely helped make anime popular in the US through their dubs, we just wanted them to do better by the art that they were licensin...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:23 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

Again, you've been told by multiple people this is provabley false Here's Siskel and Ebert two of the most well known movie critics talking about Akira in the late 80s https://youtu.be/LUjQfgbCmSY Note Ebert mentioned the manga was a best seller in Japan AND America https://youtu.be/GEGzjlPk7sM The...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:15 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10614

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

You're right. Thats why almost any positive review from their show or article was attached to pretty much any movies trailer or on its VHS (inckuding 90s Disney movies) Because these dudes were so underground :roll: Can you give an example of people buying media solely because of what a critic says...