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Probably Vegetto,,Kibito kai defused with dragon balls so i don't see any risk to create Vegetto again.

How is this even a question,,,DBSuper Super Vegetto would stomp anyone besides Beerus and upcoming God Goku,,,SSJ2 would still probably be under God tier, but as SSJ3 i could see him beating Beerus,,,after all Frieza achived same level of power as Gods in his base, so why shouldn't good old SSJ3 lev...

DBZAOTA482 wrote:How strong do you estimate Dabura was before Babidi possessed him?

I'd say Cell Games Vegeta w/o magic and Initial Perfect Cell w/magic.

Well probably stronger than Kaioshin but under Cell Saga SSJ level

Hey, I was just reminded that Kid Buu has God Ki. Apparently Goku and Vegeta couldn't sense him, hence the midget comment, and the fact that Kid Buu's reincarnation fought a God powered base Goku sets the argument in stone. Lol at this,,,ki sensing isn't always accurate...Btw Goku already knew the ...

There is no King without a Kingdom...

150x could be the limit of gravity chamber...

Golden Freeza is superior to both SSGSSs when he's at full power, both Goku and Freeza admit that. Yes, but I've deliberately chosen to put him below both SSJGSSJ Goku and SSJGSSJ Vegeta because of the time restraints he experiences when using the form, which eventually cause him to lose to both of...

this question came to me while seeing a video about a dragonball multiverse story, in which basically all nameks fused together to deafet freeza. do you think all nameks could have fused together? and if so do you think they would have been able to defeat freeza? Maybe,,,since they were all weak ex...

Why couldn't someone surpass them? Gotenks is a fusion that isn't supposed to exist, duss having only 30min or less time,,,,asking why he couldn't be surpassed (Gohan aside) is like asking why Vegetto couldn't be surpassed and the end of Z,,,not including anything post original Z... Btw Ultimate or...

Hello, new member here and former longtime guest of Kanzenshuu's forums...anyways. I am aware the guidebooks 'officially' list SSJ3 as being a 4x greater multiplier from SSJ2(which is x2 from SSJ1) and is supposedly the ultimate power of a Saiyan, not counting SSJG/SSJGSS. However I theorize that S...

No nead, unless if they write the Saiyan history book,,,there was a King V and there was a Prince V and it stayed that way.

It seems episode 2 of Super wants to make it a point that Goku is the strongest, at least according to Vegeta: At the party in the evening, Vegeta thinks to himself, that Goku became the undisputed number 1 in the universe after defeating Majin Buu. Later in the gravity chamber, He says, that he ha...

Rocketman wrote:IIRC, there's nothing in the manga that says Vegeta was a Super Saiyan when the androids arrived.

Trunks does have SSJ before Gohan dies, so we can assume that he got SSJ genes from Vegeta...

miguelnuva1 wrote:Me brother and are were talking and we were tying to figure out who is the weakest and strongest between these fights.

SSJ Goku(Namek)
SSJ Future Vegeta(vs Andriods)
SSJ Future Gohan(Two Arms)
Mecha Freeza 100%

1. SSJ Future Vegeta
2. SSJ Future Gohan
3. Mecha Freeza
4. SSJ Goku

People take everything too serious,,,that Dinosaur Snake should have atleast more power than anything in saiyan arc if it manged to survive punches from Trunks and it also showed astonishing speed.

So for Goku to single shot Super Perfect Cell as a normal Super Saiyan, he would probably need a minimum gap of 40%, because I've got Vegeta vs Semi-Perfect Cell at a 30% gap. So Dragonball Super Goku would probably look something like this: There's no reason to actually assume that what he was pic...

Piccolo sends the boys into the ROSAT to train and attempt to beat Boo, but given the massive power gap between Gotenks and Boo at that time, how could Piccolo possibly believe that SSJ Gotenks would be enough even with training? Note that this is before him or Goku knew that he achieved SSJ3. You ...

Before Cell Games SSJ was never realy used for fun so they all had serious face|eyes when using it,,,it's a form created for battle and in real life it would probably affect them like adrealine affect us and if it hits you for example in fight it's sometimes hard to control... Well this scan actualy...

dbgtFO wrote:Anyone else find it odd, that he had a tail, but didn't turn into a giant monkey?

Umm,,,Saiyan neads to look at the moon to achive monkey form...

Well there are Beerus and Whis in teaser and for some reason Goku transforms in SSJ, the normal one....But since BoG and RoF are cannon it probably takes place after it... We don't know if Goku turning into a normal SSJ is legit what the episode is going to be like though. Don't forget they re-made...