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by Cipher
Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:31 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: This series has held up so good to me.
Replies: 35
Views: 789

Re: This series has held up so good to me.

I think Toriyama is weary over the bad he sees in the world, but still has a hopeful outlook. I get that he doesn't think people will change, but what I also get is the feeling that because there's enough good in the world, it makes the ride worth it. There has to be better descriptor than whimsica...
by Cipher
Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:19 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: This series has held up so good to me.
Replies: 35
Views: 789

Re: This series has held up so good to me.

That's not the same story, that's not a story at all. One of the reasons DB will age well is because for years it didn't tell the same story. It changed things up time after time. It wasn't even afraid to get rid of its villains and move on. Not the same story repeatedly within a single work. The s...
by Cipher
Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:09 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: This series has held up so good to me.
Replies: 35
Views: 789

Re: This series has held up so good to me.

Cipher nailed it describing Toriyama as "whimsical nihilism", and boy does it let the series do a lot of silly things without getting you thinking too much about it! :lol: I was actually surprised at how much I enjoyed Battle of Gods, any misgiving I have with it ultimately give way to To...
by Cipher
Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:49 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Name adaptations
Replies: 14
Views: 336

Re: Name adaptations

Gaffer Tape wrote:First of all, agreed with what Cipher says.

Presumably everything I said except that terrible mix-up on "routes" and "roots," which I can no longer edit. Also "recognizably" instead of "recognizability."
by Cipher
Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:21 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Name adaptations
Replies: 14
Views: 336

Re: Name adaptations

Since Dragon Ball 's name puns pull from multiple languages--primarily Japanese and English (or at least English loan words in Japanese), but not exclusively--it's too much of a headache to design an entirely consistent system for which should be adapted and which should be kept as-is. So, for consi...
by Cipher
Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:54 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Which did it better, GT or Super?
Replies: 597
Views: 19865

Re: Which did it better, GT or Super?

Do you guys like watching moments you like from GT? If by moments you mean all 64 episodes, then yes. I would not want to watch half of Super again. Co-signed. There are great highlights in Super , and I do find myself rewatching them in clip form, but slogging through the show around them is usual...
by Cipher
Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:34 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Masako Nozawa Interview - ComicBook.com
Replies: 64
Views: 1205

Re: Masako Nozawa Interview - ComicBook.com

ABED wrote:Understandable given how much stronger Goku got. Now Freeza seems like little more than a persistent annoyance than a genuine threat.

Freeza's also done Goku's favorite thing and gotten way stronger through hard work. Probably took some of the edge off.
by Cipher
Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:59 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Masako Nozawa Interview - ComicBook.com
Replies: 64
Views: 1205

Re: Masako Nozawa Interview - ComicBook.com

Lukmendes wrote:Funny, Freeza used to be a villain Goku never wants to see again, but in RoF he has inexplicably mellowed out to Freeza.

He's mellowed on Freeza even by the end of their first fight.
by Cipher
Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:09 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Masako Nozawa Interview - ComicBook.com
Replies: 64
Views: 1205

Re: Masako Nozawa Interview - ComicBook.com

While Nozawa's interpretation of Goku might be off if she fully believes his primary goal is protecting and changing others, rather than those being accidental offshoots of his single-minded pursuits of martial arts (which Toriyama seems to believe they are, and selfish characters being others close...
by Cipher
Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:37 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Who is the most heroic DB character in the Franchise?
Replies: 26
Views: 572

Re: Who is the most heroic DB character in the Franchise?

Goku's heroic in large-scale ways, but as he gets older and develops, his selfish, negative, and even dangerous elements all crop in to offset that to some extent. (Which even he admits--he "knows it's wrong" to let Vegeta get away; he threatens to never forgive Kaio if he doesn't allow hi...
by Cipher
Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:42 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Why hire an old lady when you can get a dude?
Replies: 112
Views: 2538

Re: Why hire an old lady when you can get a dude?

Even ignoring how you feel about the particular performance, there's just a lot that this thread seems to either get wrong or ignore on its premise: Namely that the Dragon Ball anime is more than 30 years old and Nozawa was hardly, by any stretch of the imagination an "old woman," at the t...
by Cipher
Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:56 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?
Replies: 193
Views: 5187

Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Apparently I answered this thread shortly after it was first posted and cited "Launch, "Tien" and "Korin." I must have been tripping, because those don't have a candle to the Evil Dragons and their worming of completely made-up names well into the English-speaking fandom. Th...
by Cipher
Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:22 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Broly Light Novel
Replies: 44
Views: 1738

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Broly Light Novel

Light novels could be called "easy readers," or something, though I don't think there's a real 1:1 equivalent in Western publishing. They're full-length novels, but are typically lower in page count, word count, difficulty of language, and often feature illustrations along with the prose. ...
by Cipher
Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:16 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 12116
Views: 988319

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

Oh that's interesting, apparently Gohan, Goten, Trunks, or all may also be inside the Prison Planet too. But it's left ambiguous as to whose kids it may be, as well as if it's only one or more, so I left it to encompass both Goku's and Vegeta's kids involved in the investigation. It doesn't mention...
by Cipher
Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:26 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Yamamuro or Shintani?
Replies: 22
Views: 1851

Re: Yamamuro or Shintani?

This isn't even a comparison. I think the current Shintani-helmed visuals may be the best Dragon Ball has ever looked in terms of the aesthetics for its animation. Though I do like '90s Yamamuro and Nakatsuro, and have nothing bad to say about their Boo arc and GT work, on the opposite side of the c...
by Cipher
Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:20 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Scariest character in Dragonball?
Replies: 30
Views: 548

Re: Scariest character in Dragonball?

I definitely found the ideas of both Cell and Boo a little frightening as a kid (not, like, actively scary, but I think I had a nightmare about both). I think just the combination of their horror elements, wanton killing, and being seemingly unstoppable. As an adult, I find Broly as featured in Movi...
by Cipher
Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:23 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "SDBH: World Mission" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 80
Views: 3517

Re: "SDBH: World Mission" Official Discussion Thread

I am tripping out over the fact that regular, human Froze and a Victory Mission -specific design for Note have made their way into the game. Correct me if I'm wrong, but are those firsts? I'm fairly certain both were designed by Toyotaro for the comic rather than being hand-me-downs from Shueisha (l...
by Cipher
Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:03 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Watching the Movies Necessary?
Replies: 38
Views: 934

Re: Is Watching the Movies Necessary?

Gaffer Tape wrote:Funnily enough, I just watched Z episode 287 an hour ago, and Great Saiyaman 2 is in it. So there is that. :P

Never mind then!
by Cipher
Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:59 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Watching the Movies Necessary?
Replies: 38
Views: 934

Re: Is Watching the Movies Necessary?

Not even a little, though they're fun enough distractions if you're looking for more Dragon Ball . Maaaaaaybe give 13 a watch before GT , just for the incorporation of its titular move. (And also nods to Great Saiyaman II, I suppose, who never otherwise appears in the series. Toei basically seems to...
by Cipher
Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:54 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: What really happened to GT?
Replies: 33
Views: 931

Re: What really happened to GT?

Waning interest as the series had run its course over the past ten years, a controversial start to the series itself, and a lack of the kind of established cross-promotional avenues the series currently enjoys were all likely factors. In comparison, Super had multiple things going in its favor befor...

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