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by Cipher
Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:10 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Does Dragon Ball even feel like a story anymore?
Replies: 41
Views: 1204

Re: Does Dragon Ball even feel like a story anymore?

*snipped for space* I want to clarify that I have no expectation Goku develop morally. I've written before that he's possibly the one character to become a progressively worse person as the manga goes on, and that's one of my favorite things about him. Toiryama's modus operandi is actually not to h...
by Cipher
Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:44 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Has Yamamuro Saved Ultra Instinct?
Replies: 58
Views: 1778

Re: Has Yamamuro Saved Ultra Instinct?

I actually really wish they'd kept the skinny design instead of going, "Okay, got it. Beef-monster."

I don't have more to add to this post.
by Cipher
Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:50 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 20808
Views: 1125409

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

So, chapter 33: It's good. It's fun! There were a number of little character bits I liked. Kuririn's gag with Kame-Sennin's inability to fly goes on a beat too long, but all the early pacing is solid. "It's just like the old days; have to stay in the ring" is a good prelude to a climax, an...
by Cipher
Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:55 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Does Dragon Ball even feel like a story anymore?
Replies: 41
Views: 1204

Re: Does Dragon Ball even feel like a story anymore?

Here is my problem about this question and your statement. What is dragon ball's overall narrative? One piece is for Luffy to become the Pirate king. Naruto is for Him to become Hokage and Hunter hunter is for gon to meet his father. I disagree with this premise. Dragon Ball 's linking narrative el...
by Cipher
Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:46 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Does Dragon Ball even feel like a story anymore?
Replies: 41
Views: 1204

Re: Does Dragon Ball even feel like a story anymore?

Yes it does. I feel progression. How anyone can't blows my mind. It actually feels more cohesive than the original manga did after the Freeza arc. That's not to nag on the original series. I love Dragon Ball and stuff happens in it. And despite some inconsistencies in characters or dialogue or what...
by Cipher
Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:52 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Does Dragon Ball even feel like a story anymore?
Replies: 41
Views: 1204

Re: Does Dragon Ball even feel like a story anymore?

To play devil's advocate, in terms of character growth, the placement of Super's story in the grand narrative of Dragon Ball was in the most incompatible period. Because as you referred to, some of the main cast have already either finished their character arcs prior to Super's inception or there i...
by Cipher
Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:33 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What events in ToP seem like Anime exclusive?
Replies: 46
Views: 1259

Re: What events in ToP seem like Anime exclusive?

Oh, jeez, Anilaza! Totally forgot about him.

No way is he not anime-exclusive.
by Cipher
Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:25 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Does Dragon Ball even feel like a story anymore?
Replies: 41
Views: 1204

Re: Does Dragon Ball even feel like a story anymore?

Dragon Ball is about the battles, and sometimes adventures, of a martial artist named Son Goku and some of his allies. That's really what Dragon Ball boils to. Nothing more and nothing less. There are plenty of moments where story arcs in Dragon Ball could have ended prematurely if the cast thought...
by Cipher
Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:16 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What events in ToP seem like Anime exclusive?
Replies: 46
Views: 1259

Re: What events in ToP seem like Anime exclusive?

I feel pretty strongly that Kafla is part of the original draft, as it seems like an endgame for both characters, but we'll see. At the same time, I have some trouble believing Toriyama wrote in the three separate instances of Ultra Instinct. Hot take, but Ribrianne's use in the anime is super weird...
by Cipher
Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:01 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Does Dragon Ball even feel like a story anymore?
Replies: 41
Views: 1204

Re: Does Dragon Ball even feel like a story anymore?

It never had direction or vision to begin with. Toriyama mostly made shit up as he went along. The difference is that he used to "make shit up" with the freedom of an open canvas, a willingness to be iconoclastic and treat the characters sincerely—including aging them up against his edito...
by Cipher
Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:46 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Why do YOU personally watch Super?
Replies: 47
Views: 641

Re: Why do YOU personally watch Super?

Off topic,but what are you current manga arc? Thoughts on the current manga arc? Like the others, I expect it to be a decent one-and-done midquel story; fun enough fluff that builds on the previous Super arcs/recent movies. Nothing to write home about, but nothing offensive as extra material. Will ...
by Cipher
Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:22 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Why do YOU personally watch Super?
Replies: 47
Views: 641

Re: Why do YOU personally watch Super?

Curiosity regarding Toriyama's ideas for a continuation of the story, mostly, along with the pure inertia of having seen previous episodes at this point. I think I'll always be interested in seeing what Toriyama has planned, as a massive fan of his work, but Super has gotten to the point where I gen...
by Cipher
Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:07 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Theory - Zeno is the fandom
Replies: 13
Views: 388

Re: Theory - Zeno is the fandom

I've been on board since his (its?) earliest appearances that Zeno was representative of the audience. The world of Dragon Ball hinges on the amusement and whimsy of a lonesome, imaginative child. Not hard to read into that in terms of the series' history, nor to get mileage out of that for an ending.
by Cipher
Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:30 am
Forum: Music
Topic: Favorite and mosh hated intro and outro themes
Replies: 28
Views: 1391

Re: Favorite and mosh hated intro and outro themes

Favorite intro: "We Gotta Powa!" No contest there. It's great. Favorite outro: "I'll Give You Romance," followed closely by "Blue Velvet" from GT . Least favorite intro: "Fight it Out!" (International Boo Kai ) Least favorite outro: "Wings of the Heart&qu...
by Cipher
Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:22 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Does Vegeta recognizing Goku as #1 intrinsically mean Vegeta giving up on trying to surpass him, period?
Replies: 50
Views: 1420

Re: Does Vegeta recognizing Goku as #1 intrinsically mean Vegeta giving up on trying to surpass him, period?

Not at all. The weight of that moment in the Boo arc isn't Vegeta giving up his drive to surpass Goku. The weight is that, for the first time, he's comfortable admitting someone out there is better than he is—just as Goku has always done, and always been thrilled by—and that being thrilled rather th...
by Cipher
Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:17 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Will you watch the next Dragonball series if the quality doesn't improve from Super?
Replies: 60
Views: 1673

Re: Will you watch the next Dragonball series if the quality doesn't improve from Super?

If Toriyama's still involved, I'll watch with tepid curiosity.

126 was really my breaking point with Super, though, and I think were the series continuing on I might actually have stopped following it weekly after this arc, so I'm not a guarantee.

No Toriyama is an automatic no.
by Cipher
Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:04 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Were Goku and Vegeta's new outfits a mistake?
Replies: 46
Views: 1297

Re: Were Goku and Vegeta's new outfits a mistake?

I thought they were great. They also seemed to have been designed for use with Super Saiyan Blue, which their previous outfits clash with. It's too bad. It really does feel like they shifted back due to iconography for marketing purposes, and that's kind of a crappy thing to have hanging over the se...
by Cipher
Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:00 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What do you guys think of Zamasu?
Replies: 29
Views: 777

Re: What do you guys think of Zamasu?

Without a doubt one of the better things introduced in Super . Really fun villain, though I tend to enjoy him more in the mustache-twirling way; he doesn't offer any real depth, though his arc is fun to follow. The hammier Zamasu gets, as either Black or his immortal future-timeline self, the better...
by Cipher
Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:33 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: How do you feel about Jiren now knowing he made such a huge mistake?
Replies: 25
Views: 1103

Re: How do you feel about Jiren now knowing he made such a huge mistake?

This is actually a distracting problem with the arc, yeah.

Even when he first said he planned to leave everything to Toppo and Dyspo, it was obvious there were still multiple opponents who could easily give them trouble. If there's a character-based motivation for being so cavalier, we don't get it.
by Cipher
Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:30 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: With Super almost finished what do you think of the overall series?
Replies: 104
Views: 2972

Re: With Super almost finished what do you think of the overal series?

Goodness, this forum seems to be a huge gathering place, in fact - the central place, for the kind of cynical elitest or manga nerd troll I was talking about who blindly hates on Super. Embaressing When you were a "huge critic of Super in the past," did you have people pop into passively ...

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