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2+2=4
2x2=4

100+100=200
100x100=10000

I usually see him on par or weaker than SSJ2 Gotenks (on par or weaker than Boohan is the absolute highest I could personally imagine).

Aight, peace.

Feeling /=/ affected by it. I can feel less than one pound of a material on my body, is that going to hinder my movements? No, not at all. If it's making him feel heavy, he's certainly being affected by it. lol 1 pound? Try carrying some heavy ass object way, way more than 1 pound, it sure as hell ...

Notice that Gohan saying he feels heavy and walking perfectly fine is completely different than Goku, Yamcha and Trunks all struggling. He moves perfectly fine with no trouble whatsoever. Gohan hasn't done much of anything for you to conclude he can move perfectly fine. Not when his body is heavy, ...

Gohan didn't just notice the gravity being different, he talked about his body feeling "heavy," which was exactly how Goku and Yamcha felt. (Future Trunks was one who merely commented on it.) If he still feels heavy, he won't be able to move as easily as he normally would. So by your logic...

Raditz could easily top 10x, whereas Gohan couldn't, despite being literally like a thousand times stronger.

To everyone else: can you actually see my point?

There is one, you're just not seeing it.

Doesn't really change what I said, though.

He doesn't struggle (which he would if the gravity doubled), sure, but he's clearly still being affected by it since it makes his body feel "heavy." That's enough to place him below Raditz by your logic.

By that logic pre-SSJ Gohan would be far, far below 90k.

The theory I have is that one, while still unaccustomed to higher gravity levels, would need to have power surpassing 10 million to not get initially affected by 10x gravity, and over 150 million for 150x and so on...

I'd definitely place them above the pre-ROSAT Saiyans.

Not to mention Trunks is shown doing one-finger push ups and we don't know what gravity setting he's in, either.

If you're saying Trunks must be below a certain level, what would that be? 90k?

...so does Trunks struggling with 150x.

jackjack wrote:seeing how a 8k Goku still struggles with 20x

That'd be an indication^

Did you read my post carefully?

I'm pretty sure 20x (never mind 100x) would give Gohan just as much trouble seeing how a 8k Goku still struggles with 20x. Would I believe Gohan is < 90k? Not a chance.

Would have to say people with the "gravity resistance = A's stronger than B" argument have little room to stand on; pre-SSJ Gohan comments that his body feels heavy under mere 10g, which is exactly what Yamcha complains about while training with Kaio. So by that logic I guess Raditz dwarfs...

Throw a healed Goku and Trunks into the mix, these cyborgs likely loses. Otherwise Tien, with the others going to distract, could probably still one-shot even the more powerful ones we see them fight (but then Cell wouldn't have anything to absorb).