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by hleV
Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:04 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"
Replies: 18529
Views: 1054601

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

I don't doubt that the story he wrote is also called BOG. Not that there's evidence that he considers any of it as part of the manga continuity. If he meant his version and not "Toei's version", why wouldn't he specify? Now you're being selectively literal. I give up. You're looking to ar...
by hleV
Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:12 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Was Goku talking about Vegito or Gogeta in BOG?
Replies: 44
Views: 3368

Re: Was Goku talking about Vegito or Gogeta in BOG?

You're too willing to consider unreliable evidence as evidence. Understanding how marketing "for something like this" works has nothing to do with anything. The marketing has worked, but the statement is not reliable for an obvious reason: it's not true.
by hleV
Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:10 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"
Replies: 18529
Views: 1054601

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Nothing ever states that BOG happened in the manga's continuity ... Not to mention that at best, it's the story that Toriyama wrote that belongs to manga's continuity, and not what Toei made of that in BOG animation . If he intended RoF to be a continuation of the manga, and calls RoF a direct sequ...
by hleV
Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:01 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"
Replies: 18529
Views: 1054601

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

What is too literal? Nothing ever states that BOG happened in the manga's continuity. We had quite a few discussions regarding this in the past, so I should know. Not to mention that at best, it's the story that Toriyama wrote that belongs to manga's continuity, and not what Toei made of that in BOG...
by hleV
Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:58 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Was Goku talking about Vegito or Gogeta in BOG?
Replies: 44
Views: 3368

Re: Was Goku talking about Vegito or Gogeta in BOG?

I'm claiming that the statement that Beerus is the strongest in the history of Z is contradictory, thus absolutely unreliable. It was completely reliable when it was made, at which point it was serving its purpose of hyping up the film and keeping us in the dark on a big reveal. Even now, it is sti...
by hleV
Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:51 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"
Replies: 18529
Views: 1054601

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

So "I thought up the story as if it were a continuation of the manga when it was in serialization " translates to "the story belongs to the manga continuity"? Not in my book. To me it sounds like "I thought up a story imagining as if I was continuing the manga", which s...
by hleV
Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:04 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Was Goku talking about Vegito or Gogeta in BOG?
Replies: 44
Views: 3368

Re: Was Goku talking about Vegito or Gogeta in BOG?

I'm claiming that the statement that Beerus is the strongest in the history of Z is contradictory, thus absolutely unreliable.
by hleV
Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:46 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Was Goku talking about Vegito or Gogeta in BOG?
Replies: 44
Views: 3368

Re: Was Goku talking about Vegito or Gogeta in BOG?

Sure you can. It's called marketing. Billing Beerus as the strongest being in the history of Z creates hype for the film, and the reveal with with Whis is supposed to leave you with an interesting surprise at the end after you become invested and are looking forward to what will come next. It direc...
by hleV
Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:16 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If you could get a sketch from Toriyama
Replies: 36
Views: 2945

Re: If you could get a sketch from Toriyama

SS3/SSG Vegeta, SS2/SS3/SSG Vegetto.
by hleV
Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:11 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Was Goku talking about Vegito or Gogeta in BOG?
Replies: 44
Views: 3368

Re: Was Goku talking about Vegito or Gogeta in BOG?

Beerus was also described in promotional material as the "strongest in the history of Z" up till that point, which would include Vegetto and exclude the Whis reveal (as that was meant to be a surprise at the end of the film). You cannot exclude a confirmed DB characer. If Beerus is strong...
by hleV
Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:07 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Why did Toei stop colouring Krillin's eyes?
Replies: 10
Views: 1556

Re: Why did Toei stop colouring Krillin's eyes?

JacobYBM wrote:
hleV wrote:Toei was and is bad at its job.


That is confusing consistency for quality.

They provide us with none of that.
by hleV
Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:04 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"
Replies: 18529
Views: 1054601

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Where does Toriyama say that BOG/ROF are part of the manga continuity? "Writing it as if the manga was still in serialization" does not translate to "Writing it as part of the manga continuity".
by hleV
Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:42 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 32073
Views: 971990

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Yeah... It took Vegetto transforming and fight Gohan-Buu for a couple of minutes to finally realize he's thousands of times stronger... I don't have to explain this. It is there. Vegetto says it himself. One does not necessarily catch up with such a tremendous power. Boo, with Gohan and Piccolo abs...
by hleV
Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:36 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Why did Toei stop colouring Krillin's eyes?
Replies: 10
Views: 1556

Re: Why did Toei stop colouring Krillin's eyes?

Toei was and is bad at its job.
by hleV
Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:34 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 32073
Views: 971990

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Lol calm down bro I am absolutely calm. You calm down. It's not uncomforting, it's obviously just ridiculous. Yes, it is obviously ridiculous to you. And if I'm correct, the guide says it's like multiplication, not just flat out multiplication. It says that Potara fusion is as tremendous as a multi...
by hleV
Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:24 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 32073
Views: 971990

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

There's no reason for him to go out of his way to avoid it. If he's thousands of times stronger, he would literally just stand there and tank it. And that was after he realized how strong he is. No, that's just what you say, unable to back it up by anything. The stronger you make him, the more ridi...
by hleV
Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:14 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Anyone else think Vegeta was too easily forgiven by the end?
Replies: 290
Views: 14573

Re: Anyone else think Vegeta was too easily forgiven by the

Evidently, usefulness beats evilness by Dragon World standarts, that's why Vegeta continued to be accepted by everyone even though he has always remained evil and dangerous. But he wasn't useful for anyone except the villains. Wasn't or not, according to Enma he may have been of use, which took the...
by hleV
Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:10 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Does a saiyan tail go blonde in SS?
Replies: 28
Views: 3214

Re: Does a saiyan tail go blonde in SS?

Well, let's first acknowledge the fact that a Saiyan's tail fur (and Ozaru fur) is brown, as opposed to their black head hair color. So if a Saiyan's black hair turns blonde when going SS, it is not the same as a Saiyan's brown hair turning blonde, so it is not fair to say that "it makes more s...
by hleV
Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:23 pm
Forum: Website & Community Discussion
Topic: The main site is linking to an online shopping website?
Replies: 36
Views: 4162

Re: The main site is linking to an online shopping website?

It links to http://www.kanzenshuu.com/index.php for me. Can you hover the link and copy its location to show us what do you mean?
by hleV
Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:15 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Anyone else think Vegeta was too easily forgiven by the end?
Replies: 290
Views: 14573

Re: Anyone else think Vegeta was too easily forgiven by the

Vegeta had never saved more people than he killed. That is fact. And for those he saved, it was usually the result of him being a selfish prick rather than a protector. He never really did anything for the sake of others (with a possible exception of his family, and even the most evil people can lo...

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