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by Zephyr
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:21 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Things Super or a new series NEEDS to do
Replies: 37
Views: 1000

Re: Things Super or a new series NEEDS to do

Freeza was also modelled after Toriyama's second editor. :P If Piccolo is plausible (even if "barely"), then Freeza is plausible. Afterall, a literal manifestation of evil is more "conceptually irredeemable" than any psychopath. Freeza being unrepentant every time so far does not...
by Zephyr
Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:52 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Things Super or a new series NEEDS to do
Replies: 37
Views: 1000

Re: Things Super or a new series NEEDS to do

#7 should never happen. Freeza as a character is partly defined by his irredeemable nature. Making him a good guy would ruin his character. Tenshinhan was a scumbag training to become an assassin. Piccolo was the reincarnation of a literally pure evil being. Vegeta committed more than his own fair ...
by Zephyr
Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:11 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Things Super or a new series NEEDS to do
Replies: 37
Views: 1000

Re: Things Super or a new series NEEDS to do

#1: Do not waste time and energy on a Broly film retelling. Just air the movie, either in full or as several 20 minute "episodes". Or don't air it at all. People are either following the franchise enough to have seen the film, or they won't care (or know) that they're not starting from the...
by Zephyr
Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:47 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Things that grind your gears
Replies: 3674
Views: 158143

Re: Things that grind your gears

Lord Beerus wrote:
Zephyr wrote:Kinda dumb that they named a Saiyan "Toma". Tomatoes are fruit, not vegetables.

That tomato died just as horribly as the rest of his vegetables, and should be treated with just as much respect.

#FruitLivesMatter

He can have my respect as well as my bewilderment!
by Zephyr
Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:47 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Things that grind your gears
Replies: 3674
Views: 158143

Re: Things that grind your gears

Kinda dumb that they named a Saiyan "Toma". Tomatoes are fruit, not vegetables.
by Zephyr
Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:26 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?
Replies: 985
Views: 71168

Re: What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?

In other words, Dragon Ball could have started with the 22nd tenkaichi budokai and ended with Son Goku's death on Namek and it would have been just as much of a fulfilling story. Everything else is essentially extra to Son's story arc, though that doesn't mean everything else is necessarily bad or ...
by Zephyr
Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:27 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 27590
Views: 1539100

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

There's such a thing as dramatic timing.

This is some "they ruined the consistency of my choreography-derived feats!" level nitpicking, and I am surprised it took someone this long to resort to it.
by Zephyr
Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:25 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Does the Super Manga feel incomplete?
Replies: 40
Views: 1541

Re: Does the Super Manga feel incomplete?

I don't look at the manga as a standalone thing. I view it more as a supplement to Toriyama's films. When viewed that way, it's perfectly complete (if a tad too brisk with its arc finales). If viewed entirely on its own, though, it's definitely incomplete. This is a very good idea. Actually the 4 c...
by Zephyr
Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:06 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Does the Super Manga feel incomplete?
Replies: 40
Views: 1541

Re: Does the Super Manga feel incomplete?

I don't look at the manga as a standalone thing. I view it more as a supplement to Toriyama's films. When viewed that way, it's perfectly complete (if a tad too brisk with its arc finales). If viewed entirely on its own, though, it's definitely incomplete.
by Zephyr
Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:05 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Things that grind your gears
Replies: 3674
Views: 158143

Re: Things that grind your gears

You tell me that, none of have you have given any reason for why he should still have these weaknesses? Because it's a Toriyama story, where cosmic irony is largely the point. More like he didn't think through in the later half. I mean, probably, but, again, this is a story by Akira Toriyama. I thi...
by Zephyr
Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:46 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Things that grind your gears
Replies: 3674
Views: 158143

Re: Things that grind your gears

SaiyanGod117 wrote:You tell me that, none of have you have given any reason for why he should still have these weaknesses?

Because it's a Toriyama story, where cosmic irony is largely the point.
by Zephyr
Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:29 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 27590
Views: 1539100

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

What's not for me to decide? The role a character has. If I'm told there's gong to be a tournament with 80 contestants and I'm shown a page spread of every team, I'm not going to think that the majority of them won't even do anything. I don't care if they're used to hype others, that doesn't tell m...
by Zephyr
Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:09 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 27590
Views: 1539100

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

In universe, yes, they're all main contestants. Narratively speaking, most of them are as important as the preliminary contestants. They serve the same function. Their lack of spotlight is equally justified. But that's not for you to decide. There are 70 people that can fulfill various roles going ...
by Zephyr
Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:26 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 27590
Views: 1539100

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

"I dont think people would care about Chapa and the other preliminary fighters at the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai getting thrown away easily if Chaozu and Yajirobe hadn't been shafted." Those 80 are main contestants, they're not the same as preliminary fighters fom the Tenkaichi Budoukai. In u...
by Zephyr
Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:43 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 27590
Views: 1539100

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I don't think people would care about the fighters from the other universes getting thrown away easily if the U7 characters themselves hadn't been shafted too. "I dont think people would care about Chapa and the other preliminary fighters at the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai getting thrown away easil...
by Zephyr
Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 27590
Views: 1539100

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I'm actually down to have Toyotaro not adapt the Broly film. The more complementary the manga arcs are to Toriyama's films, rather than trying to act as alternatives to them, the better. Even his Battle of Gods adaptation felt more like an abridged recap/extended prologue to the Champa arc, than an ...
by Zephyr
Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:36 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Is Toriyama trying to set a foundation to make sure DB lives on?
Replies: 18
Views: 884

Re: Is Toriyama trying to set a foundation to make sure DB lives on?

Yeah I don't buy it, that just sounds like toriyama worship. Look at: orginal db movies 13 dbz set movies Dbs manga Dbs GT some of the Dbz filler db specials all great product that had some to no toriyama influnce. If toriyama goes, and toei, shueisha and toyotaro work hard: dragon ball will be fin...
by Zephyr
Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:47 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The story behind the villains
Replies: 9
Views: 373

Re: The story behind the villains

Kunzait has mentioned that Tao Pai Pai and Freeza are also, in part, based on prolific characters or archetypes in Wuxia films. I don't remember the former, but the latter was Dongfag Bubai. Hopefully he chimes in and elaborates. Dongfa n g Bubai. :lol: :lol: :lol: Uhm.....that's my bad for not cat...
by Zephyr
Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:18 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The story behind the villains
Replies: 9
Views: 373

Re: The story behind the villains

Piccolo Daimao, Freeza, and Majin Buu are, were, in part, inspired by Toriyama's three editors, respectively: Kazuhiko Torishima, Yū Kondō, and Fuyuto Takeda. Kunzait has mentioned that Tao Pai Pai and Freeza are also, in part, based on prolific characters or archetypes in Wuxia films. I don't remem...

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