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by TobyS
Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:17 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The Super Saiyan God prophecy in the future timelines
Replies: 3
Views: 512

Re: The Super Saiyan God prophecy in the future timelines

The trouble is, Although we know alternate timelines are only created when there is a sufficiently large paradox and not just any time travel backwards, this would cause problems. If we assume any timeline where it's not possible, the fish doesn't make the prediction that'd mean the prophecies addit...
by TobyS
Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:07 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread
Replies: 1968
Views: 360926

Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

I wonder if Gohan will unlock beast or something , it's weird they are focusing on him. Wonder if plans changed alongside super hero and such.
by TobyS
Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:47 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 15608
Views: 2111409

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

If you buy the new base game for newer consoles, do you get your old consoles dlc?
by TobyS
Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:13 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39940
Views: 3905474

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think it will be very interesting to see how Goku will dethrone everyone else. As we know, Goku by the 28th Tournament will be the Most Powerful, the "Number 1", in the Universe. Not Gohan, Not Broly, Not Vegeta, Goku. The strongest and highest potential Saiyan ever. He is the one desti...
by TobyS
Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:45 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 264
Views: 14402

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

What people still don't get is Goku and his pals are not super heroes, they aren't pragmatists. They stamp out evil when they stumble across it but don't go looking (see freeza being alive). They are a bunch of karate psychopaths. Goku, Piccolo, Vegeta and Tenshinhan want to fight the androids they ...
by TobyS
Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:35 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
Replies: 34
Views: 2083

Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta

Lol you are full of it, no source matters except toriyama and to a lesser extent toyo, I quoted the toriyama part of the interview you mentioned and it didn't say what you claimed it said whatsoever. We don't even see ss3 gotenks and gohans fight with beerus in the manga. In the anime and movie, whi...
by TobyS
Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:26 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Legendary Super Saiyan is weaker than a Super Saiyan 2?
Replies: 6
Views: 582

Re: Legendary Super Saiyan is weaker than a Super Saiyan 2?

Supposedly in the movie verse gohan didn't stop training.

So either it's better than SS2 or simply Broly Zenkaied so much between the movies that he's stronger than Gohan despite the smaller multiplier.
by TobyS
Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:20 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread
Replies: 3684
Views: 483765

Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

If the were no Android arc nor Goku having a Heart Virus disease after the death of Mecha Freeza and Cold, how things would unfold? Would Vegeta even defeat Goku and destroy the Earth? Would Piccolo still try to rule the world? Vegeta would fight Goku and still lose. I feel like Piccolo move on at ...
by TobyS
Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:13 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37484
Views: 3450657

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

SS2 Future Gohan (manga) vs Future 17 SS2 Future Gohan (anime) vs Future 17 and 18 SS2 Future Gohan (anime) vs Future Imperfect Cell So 17 didn't use half his power last time, but did use more this time to beat Gohan, so Gohan was above 50% 17 now, SS2 is a 2x multiplier so Gohan simply. In the ani...
by TobyS
Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:53 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
Replies: 34
Views: 2083

Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta

This would just be incoherent with many other things, like Goku looking stronger than Goten during "yo son Goku and his friends return" , or with BoG's movie writer saying that no one ever surpassed SSJ3 (Goku) and that they came up with SSJG on purpose to do that. And obviously , there's...
by TobyS
Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:44 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
Replies: 34
Views: 2083

Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta

This would just be incoherent with many other things, like Goku looking stronger than Goten during "yo son Goku and his friends return" , or with BoG's movie writer saying that no one ever surpassed SSJ3 (Goku) and that they came up with SSJG on purpose to do that. And obviously , there's...
by TobyS
Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:38 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37484
Views: 3450657

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

1. Goku (Beginning of DB) vs Beelzebub (Sand Land) 2. How would Beelzebub fare in the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai? 3. Let's say Zarbon was around to do Tagoma's training instead, who is the strongest character he'd be able to defeat in his monster form? 4. Moro arc 17 fuses with Hell Fighter 17 to becom...
by TobyS
Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:31 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37484
Views: 3450657

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

He was keeping up just fine and had the upper hand in Super Saiyan against them individually. Super Saiyan 2 would probably have been enough but ultimate seems more efficient. Depends on how strong you think SS Gohan is currently but at best, in the manga, current SS are as strong as Boo arc SS2s. ...
by TobyS
Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:51 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 8502
Views: 1282631

Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

I wonder what a sequel would look like.

I liked the rays plot device to explain fighters being on the same level.

Although 16 should not have been affected and stomped everyone if they all were at Nappas level lmao.

But I'm not sure how they can repeat that again.
by TobyS
Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:42 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball SD worth to buy?
Replies: 14
Views: 745

Re: Is Dragon Ball SD worth to buy?

Haven't they like... Adapted the whole series by now? Where is it up to?
by TobyS
Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:20 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 16751
Views: 2881729

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

Yeah I concur he was menacing in the prison planet and when he grabbed laggs, and yeah it was a plausible excuse that he's letting them grow stronger before eating them like moro did, but I'd rather see the lower powered match ups of the tournament before or lore expansion. I do wonder if this is li...
by TobyS
Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:06 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong is Base Vegetto (Manga)?
Replies: 51
Views: 8570

Re: How strong is Base Vegetto (Manga)?

At minimum ss2 vegeta, possibly ss3 goku.

But he needed to transform, so weaker than gohan boo is all we know.
by TobyS
Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:58 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37484
Views: 3450657

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

SSjin 2 Vegeta (Pre Majin) vs Super Perfect Cell (manga) Hmm so vegeta probably wasn't stronger than gohan without majin as neither he nor goku were much stronger when vegeta had it. However vegeta also wasn't threatened by a super perfect cell level dabra and gohan killed cell while wounded and de...
by TobyS
Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:44 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
Replies: 34
Views: 2083

Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta

I don’t see why the entry can’t refer to Base Gotenks. Goku already established that SSJ Gotenks after the 2 days of training would be sufficient to defeating Fat Boo and no indication that Goku wasn’t accurate. SSJ Gotenks was in the ballpark of SSJ3 tier. Knowing the SS multipliers we can deduce:...
by TobyS
Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:55 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 4633
Views: 591590

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

I was just watching Piccolo's scene after Geets blows himself up vs Buu, he says he is now fighting for others and this deserves his respect. By now Piccolo respects everybody I guess, but did Yamcha or Chaozu ever do something to earn Piccolo's respect, like Vegeta did? I assume he respected Tensh...