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by Cipher
Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:59 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Kanzenshuu Members Favorite Series.
Replies: 138
Views: 6924

Re: Kanzenshuu Members Favorite Series.

Victory Mission
by Cipher
Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:10 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The Buu Arc as a Self Parody?
Replies: 30
Views: 1095

Re: The Buu Arc as a Self Parody?

Parody is appropriate, but I almost feel like saying "having fun with his own formula" is even moreso. The Buu arc is a lot like The Last Jedi actually; it very intentionally subverts a lot of expectations (high school arc aside because Toriyama hadn't changed the direction at that point)...
by Cipher
Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:33 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 10618
Views: 422168

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

It is indeed. I did actually feel like Dragon Ball met Yu-Gi-Oh! while reading it and it was a good experience. I do want Toyotaro back now that his art has improved a lot, Victory Mission would look more appealing and beautiful. I started reading it on a whim earlier today, and Toyotaro has succes...
by Cipher
Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:26 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 10618
Views: 422168

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Victory Mission is a lot more enjoyable than it has any right to be, and it deserves a collected release.
by Cipher
Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:37 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Was SSJ3 Necessary To The Plot As A Whole?
Replies: 18
Views: 714

Re: Was SSJ3 Necessary To The Plot As A Whole?

It's not completely necessary when the plot is broken down into bullet points, but as a representation of pure excess in a final arc where logic breaks down in tandem with the situation becoming more dire (in a good way), it's an inclusion I really like. The beat with Gotenks wanting to save it for ...
by Cipher
Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:21 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What is there beyond strength?
Replies: 29
Views: 1420

Re: What is there beyond strength?

Polyphase Avatron wrote:You think Freeza wouldn't have made a selfish wish?

He would, but the point is that when push comes to shove, he trusts Goku enough to forgo his chance at the wish and try to take Jiren out with him.
by Cipher
Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:36 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What is there beyond strength?
Replies: 29
Views: 1420

Re: What is there beyond strength?

One day we'll find out what Jiren's "selfish" wish was and I think we'll be surprised. I don't think we'll ever be told, but I don't think we need to be. Without directly expressing it, the series makes it clear it's something related to fixing or addressing the past. Whether that means a...
by Cipher
Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:35 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Why Do fans overlook the depth or Character Development in Dragon Ball?
Replies: 36
Views: 1159

Re: Why Do fans overlook the depth or Character Development in Dragon Ball?

I'm unsure that Dragon Ball has great depth, as it makes no particular effort to wrap itself in subtext or respond in any particular way to either specific real-world events or emotional states, but what it does offer—along with the greater library of Toriyama works which it's a part of—is a worldvi...
by Cipher
Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:51 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 12114
Views: 988059

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

It is Kaio-Ken. Sorry. They did this weird thing where they wrote Kaio-Ken out in kanji and wrote "serious" next to it in furigana. I completely missed that on first pass. As we know Hachihyack shows up in this story and the inclusion of the black smoke is an odd detail, it's also highly l...
by Cipher
Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:19 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 12114
Views: 988059

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

I didn't initially interpret from the drawing that Vegetto was using Kaioken, and he never announces he's using it, but his aura is a bit different once we return to the fight and see Cumber as a Super Saiyan, so it's certainly possible that was the intent. Also, summary on the previous page was edi...
by Cipher
Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:26 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 12114
Views: 988059

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

I didn't really doubt you. Anyway, got the issue. Summary below. As there aren't scans yet, it didn't seem reasonable to do a full translation. Alakazam^ will probably still handle that in a few days when scans arrive. And it seems like crt/taddlelegacy will still be doing full scanlations. --------...
by Cipher
Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:53 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 26639
Views: 1480034

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Cipher's post also doesn't really work for anime Jiren to me since I never get the impression he has any kind of sense of justice. Much less that he associates power itself as a form of justice, nor do I feel he's kind anything approaching a desire to prevent tragedies that have happened to other p...
by Cipher
Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:25 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 12114
Views: 988059

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

I'll check bookstores around my area tonight and see if they have it. Haven't looked for Saikyo Jump specifically before, so I don't know how quickly places around here get them in. Even in Japan, the only way to get it earlier would be connections to a retailer. Someone tweeted a blurry photograph ...
by Cipher
Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:12 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 12114
Views: 988059

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

Is the chapter out-out yet, or are people just getting advance copies?

If it's past street date, I can go look for one this weekend.
by Cipher
Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:20 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Minus is not bad.
Replies: 134
Views: 3299

Re: Dragon Ball Minus is not bad.

Again. Most of that is still subjective. Buddy, fiction is subjective. The very title of your thread is a subjective statement. You want an objective statement on "Dragon Ball Minus"? "Dragon Ball Minus" is a comic written by Akira Toriyama and published in 2014. It is sixteen p...
by Cipher
Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:19 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Minus is not bad.
Replies: 134
Views: 3299

Re: Dragon Ball Minus is not bad.

I felt that it was because I had asked what was wrong with Minus for doing what it was doing with it’s intentions and people just keep repeating “it’s just so bad... because” without offering anything of substance to it. People can have their opinions of it for not liking the Minus manga’s directio...
by Cipher
Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:31 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Minus is not bad.
Replies: 134
Views: 3299

Re: Dragon Ball Minus is not bad.

I do think it harms the story thematically, but for its length and presentation (not to mention two-decade removal from the original run and connection to another work), I also find it difficult to get worked up over. The most I might say is that Toriyama didn't need to include it or might have foun...
by Cipher
Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:16 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: What makes canon so important for the fandom
Replies: 62
Views: 1320

Re: What makes canon so important for the fandom

The inability to accept a lack of control over the indifferent universal forces that press upon our lives as we inch ever closer to the grave.
by Cipher
Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: GT references in DBS(manga&anime)
Replies: 21
Views: 700

Re: GT references in DBS(manga&anime)

Mosco is absolutely a reference to Lood, and I believe Maji Kayo is one to Baby as well.

But we can't forget about the most important one:

by Cipher
Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:56 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: How do you feel about Freeza being an ally?
Replies: 42
Views: 1596

Re: How do you feel about Freeza being an ally?

It's by far the most amusing and genuinely intriguing part of current Dragon Ball for me. I'm all for it.

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