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by RandomGuy96
Tue May 14, 2013 7:18 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37485
Views: 3476918

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Semi-Perfect Cell tools him. Super 13 is likely weaker than 16. Or Paikuhan one shotted a Cell that was vastly weaker than Ssj Goku. Not really. Paikuhan ( w/o weights ) > Ssj Goku > 50% Goku ~ Blazing Shot > 25% Goku ~ Base Cell Pikkon > Super Perfect Cell > Perfect Cell > SS Goku works fine for me.
by RandomGuy96
Tue May 14, 2013 1:42 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Replies: 30278
Views: 3632278

Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

It might also be because a lot of people (including myself) prefer the anime version of that special to the manga version of the events.
by RandomGuy96
Tue May 14, 2013 1:32 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Replies: 30278
Views: 3632278

Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Kaioshin could still show up. It's possible Kaioshin doesn't believe there is enough power left on Earth to revive Boo. Babidi seams to think so though. If Kaioshin showed up, the story would break. Gohan would be like "Hey Mr. King of Gods, can you help me with this one thing?" and then ...
by RandomGuy96
Tue May 14, 2013 1:23 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Movie 3 Goku
Replies: 21
Views: 1253

Re: Movie 3 Goku

But then a 2x gap is one shot material, evidenced by Goku vs Recoome. (Wasn't he putting out bursts of 60k? Or was that 90k I'm lost) But then a 2x gap is not one shot material, as evidenced by Goku vs Nappa A 40% gap is one shot material, evidenced by Vegeta vs Cui A 40% gap is not one shot materi...
by RandomGuy96
Mon May 13, 2013 2:40 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37485
Views: 3476918

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

If he just got lucky, then the whole point of that scene and everyone's reactions to it are moot and pointless. From a Doylist perspective it'd seem weird. That was a pretty obvious "This guy's stronger than Cell!" moment. It's not like him being stronger than Super Perfect Cell is inconsi...
by RandomGuy96
Mon May 13, 2013 12:18 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37485
Views: 3476918

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

It's pretty heavily implied that he is not.
by RandomGuy96
Sun May 12, 2013 11:28 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37485
Views: 3476918

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

I think a Pikkon would dispatch him with the same ease that he dispatched Super Perfect Cell.
by RandomGuy96
Sun May 12, 2013 9:43 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37485
Views: 3476918

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Pikkon vs pre-Majin Vegeta SS2.
by RandomGuy96
Sun May 12, 2013 9:42 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Did the Super Saiyans surpass FP Perfect Cell level?
Replies: 99
Views: 7871

Re: Did the Super Saiyans surpass FP Perfect Cell level?

He was angry. And in the Buu Saga Vegeta mentions that, despite Gohan being pathetic compared to his Cell Games self as a teen, there's no telling what would happen if he got angry. That kind of implies to me that kid = teen + rage. I see it as: Cell Games SS Goku- 14,000,000,000 Suppressed Perfect ...
by RandomGuy96
Sun May 12, 2013 7:22 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Replies: 30278
Views: 3632278

Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Acknowledging something doesn't automatically make it better.
by RandomGuy96
Sun May 12, 2013 6:52 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Replies: 30278
Views: 3632278

Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Oh. Well then, there shouldn't be one of these specials. This event simply should've been Babidi's crew showing up taking the cocoon and leaving.
by RandomGuy96
Sun May 12, 2013 6:43 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Replies: 30278
Views: 3632278

Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Changing the date when Babidi arrived for no in universe reason, just so it it fits better, is bullshit on itself. Babidi arrived when Trunks was a kid, there is no reason for that to have changed in the timeline of Future Trunks. Why did Babidi come to Earth again? Because he thought he could gath...
by RandomGuy96
Sun May 12, 2013 6:28 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Replies: 30278
Views: 3632278

Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Future Gohan with better speed and reflexes than Buu arc Piccolo... First he is able to dodge Dabura's punch and exchange blows with him and now is able to even avoid his spit (which Piccolo was unable to do, despite being way stronger and faster than Future Gohan). Not to mention, being able to br...
by RandomGuy96
Sun May 12, 2013 5:58 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong were Goten and Trunks(SSJ)?
Replies: 38
Views: 3724

Re: How strong were Goten and Trunks(SSJ)?

You're really underselling them there. They're at least much stronger than 18. She was scared shitless of a suppressed blast when they were going out of their way not to hurt her. I think the boys are between Imperfect and Semi-Perfect Cell.
by RandomGuy96
Sun May 12, 2013 5:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37485
Views: 3476918

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

I don't think you need to have a power advantage to punch through someone anyway. I mean we've seen strong people fail to impale weaker people on their fists a lot, like kaio-ken x3 Goku vs Vegeta or Goku vs Nappa. And it's shown repeatedly that the element of surprise is a huge advantage; if Piccol...
by RandomGuy96
Sun May 12, 2013 5:03 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37485
Views: 3476918

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

The 120/150 figure works fine to me. As in, those levels, at full power, with neither being short of their full power, because such a thing was never mentioned and would actually make the numbers we were given pointless, since they wouldn't reflect anything. Also, Trunks has no idea how strong Freez...
by RandomGuy96
Sun May 12, 2013 6:49 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Does anyone prefer the Boo saga over all others?
Replies: 35
Views: 3889

Re: Does anyone prefer the Boo saga over all others?

One good thing about the Buu Saga: Super Buu was the best villain in Z.
by RandomGuy96
Sun May 12, 2013 3:27 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37485
Views: 3476918

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Zarbon? And Cui is also easily explained by the circumstances, though it's not like he would've done much better if they were different... Also there's no evidence that they were below those levels for the fight. You'd think that it would be mentioned somewhere if the precedent set by those official...
by RandomGuy96
Sun May 12, 2013 3:21 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37485
Views: 3476918

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

There's also the fact that a 10% gap is enough for someone to 1hko.
Officially, Goku vs Freeza was 150,000,000 vs 120,000,000. 25% gap. No one hit KO there. And if you're talking about Dodoria, he can easily be explained by the circumstances.
by RandomGuy96
Sun May 12, 2013 2:54 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37485
Views: 3476918

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

In power levels? Around 350,000,000. I never really thought about Kibito and just kind of had him there because that's where I had base Gohan, since the guides say that he's around base Gohan's power. I don't think it really matters since there's no evidence for him being stronger either way. Sure, ...