Kanzenshuu

Yeah, the heroes' power lineup in Battle of Gods makes a lot more sense when you remember it was originally written and even animated with regular Super Saiyan Gohan, and he was only changed to using Ultimate at some very late stage.

English subtitles!

(Joking aside, ditto on the "the Level sets are the best the footage has ever looked" sentiment.)

A vision of his son Kakarrot, wielding the mightiest and most "peak Saiyan" form ever, beating up the last of the Tsufrians, who is inhabiting the body of the stuck-up Prince Vegeta, on a recreated Planet Vegeta.

Bardock couldn't possibly be a prouder papa.

Daizenshuu 6 doesn't say that Movie 8 literally takes place during the 10 days before the Cell Games, just that it's "around the time of the final showdown with Cell," and even makes a tongue-in-cheek comment about how it's a "mystery" why everyone's so relaxed in spite of that. ...

Shaddy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:13 amI don't want more transformations.

All of the dittos on this. Enough is enough, and "enough" was at least like 4 or 5 color-swaps ago.

Didn't Daizenshuu also claim base Gotenks was superior to Majin Vegeta? Nothing so specific. It said that after his RoSaT training, Gotenks "leveled up so much that he surpassed Vegeta and the others." It doesn't indicate that he did so within his base form or any other particular state, ...

Yeah, but D7 is kind of an all-inclusive volume that doesn't really favor either the manga or anime, so that bit could be its way of acknowledging his base-form filler fight. Still, nothing wrong with estimating him on that level depending on however one thinks Fusion works.

Given that he jumped right into Super Saiyan in the manga, his base-form strength is best summed up as "unquantified and unimportant." It could be basically anything, as long as the result is that his Super Saiyan strength is still way stronger than Boo. Beyond that, it's almost entirely j...

I just assume that Fat Boo somehow got his original "between SS2 and SS3" power level back during all the self-absorption shenanigans going on. He does seem to be pretty much right back in that same tier, doing better against Pure Boo than Vegeta did but still knowing basically right away ...

From an in-universe perspective, if we're meant to believe that 17 has been training behind the scenes since the end of the Cell arc... then regular unfused 17 should be the same strength in both Super and GT, if not even stronger in GT from possibly training for another ~10 years. If I recall corre...

This whole thing amounts to far less of simply "Pure Boo is the strongest one in the anime," and more that he anime tried to say Pure Boo is strongest, but also leaves in a whole bunch of other stuff that doesn't let that actually be true, so it becomes a self-contradictory mess. You're le...

Relevant follow-up question of my own... did the anime actually remove the line where SS3 Goku regrets breaking the Potara, claiming it could have done the job against Pure Boo? Or was that line just put somewhere else in all of the anime arc's extra back-and-forth shenanigans? Because I went to che...

Let's drop the petulant "no u" back-and-forth now, okay?

FPSSJ4_Goku wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:03 pmSuper Saiyan Grade 2 Trunks is listed as 110,000,000 instead of 1,100,000,000 (1.1 billion)

Ah okay, thanks. Those kinds of "oops, not enough digits" mistakes happen a lot.

Same for me, Super Vegeta's the first one to cross the 1 billion mark. I have him at 1.2 billion.

Also, what error?

FPSSJ4_Goku wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:11 pmIs it okay with you if I draw this digitally? I drew your design for SS Blue a while back, and I'd like to show it to you.

Go for it, not like you need my permission to do fanart of a fanart.

Here we go, it's "F*ck Super" entry number 3, which I call "Worthy Opponent!" https://i.imgur.com/kv1gSIqt.png Universe-punch that thumbnail for the full-size version! "AGE 790-X: In an alternate reality where Super Yi Xing Long emerged victorious against our heroes, destroy...

Long overdue, but here's "F*ck Super" entry No. 2, which I call "Gold And Purple And Red All Over!" https://i.imgur.com/hMHbupwm.png [Click ye upon yon thumbnail for full-sizened imageth.] "AGE 779-X: In an alternate reality where Beerus went back to sleep without visiting K...

All of Super's existence is collectively one of the worst decisions in the franchise's history.

The terrible, dismal, character-ruining ending of its Trunks/Zamas arc is just the lowest of its many lows.

I was already vaguely aware of "Dee-Bee-Zee" and its general premise through most of my childhood. But what little snippets of the show itself I actually saw seemed corny and stupid, which was understandable given that it was early Android-arc chunks of the English dub. Then sometime in th...