Yes, I moved away from the topic of news there - my idea about customizing the slidedown bar was the last point about it from me.VegettoEX wrote:OK, but like you said: that's not news, that's content.Tzigi wrote:Actually I think that there is a problem with finding one's way on the website - not with the news themselves but with finding relevant info. The cataloguing isn't done in a user-friendly way and that's not only my opinion. Finding a relevant statement in for example one of Toriyama's interviews is easy only when one knows where to look for it in the first place. Otherwise the best option is to use Google and restrict the search to Kanzenshuu. And that's quite definitely a problem that others have as well - 2 out of those 4 times I mentioned going to the website directly concerned exactly helping different people find relevant info here. They couldn't find it, I couldn't either but Google helped. So yeah, that is a real problem but I guess it's quite hard to fix.
If you want to specifically address "Toriyama said such-and-such", here are two types of ways we've tried to alleviate that search burden:
Everything in our "Translations" section is tagged and there is a tag filter on the right. You can specifically search and highlight by, for example, things "Akira Toriyama" said in "V-Jump", or anything about a "Video Game" that was exclusively printed "Online".
And if you don't even know what you're looking for, we try to list all relevant things in all relevant places. The "Battle of Gods" page in our "Movie Guide", for example, lists all relevant quotes from production staff with links to the full interviews they came from. There are pages like "Character Fates" in the "Tidbits" section that collect all related items that come from various interviews over a period of decades.
So yes, the information is overwhelming. You know it, and we know it. By taking a couple of seconds to look at what's there, though, you'll see that we actually have done a ton of that legwork for you.
But yeah, if you don't have any real idea about what you're looking for... no, of course you're not going to be able to find it. The best we can do is organize things logically, and help you stumble upon what you're looking for. There's nothing wrong with digging!
Right, right, right. But the problem remains - what is a logical organization for one isn't necessarily logical of another. As TheDevilsCorpse the impossibility of further narrowing down things makes it difficult - for example.
And I wasn't referring to a "you don't even know what you're looking for" situation but rather to "I remember having read such and such statement and want to find its source to quote it authoritatively to somebody else". For example such a case concerned about Buu not having been created by Bibidi - I remembered reading it on the forum here and that it was a statement by Toriyama and not by some anime staff. So I enter the website and... where do I look now? "Guides" seem perfect - I need a guide to know how a personage was created in-universe. I browse one guide, then the next - still nothing. So, where next? "General Info" seems acceptable. Maybe "Tidbits"? Since - after all - it is a tidbit on Buu that I'm searching. Fascinating stuff there but not the thing I'm searching for. So, maybe I'll just search the site? Nope. I can search the news or the forum but not the site proper. Let's look further... Maybe "Features"? Maybe there's a feature on Buu? There isn't. By this point I exit the site, enter google, type "site:http://www.kanzenshuu.com buu origin" and lo and behold: the third result is what I was searching for:
Spoiler:
That's pretty much my thought process. I didn't find the info by browsing the site, I had no idea where it could be and - to be honest - I consider that user-unfriendly design. As Steve Krug has put it in the title of his book: Don't Make Me Think - and that's a well-thought-out website where one can find all the info without trying to find it.
I know that by now you can probably find everything - but that's like reading one's own essay - one ceases to see the logical mistakes because one knows what's supposed to be inside the text. So, if you know where a piece of information is, then it's only natural that you can find it.
But I also understand that the advent of the wiki will change things. My example with Buu will then look this way: I want to find the info about Bibidi not having created Buu -> I open either Buu's or Bibidi's page -> the story is mentioned and sourced -> the end.
. Until it's fully written about and cross-referenced in each location, we do our absolute goddamn best to at least make it available in the best place we can.
