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Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

Postby Logania » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:58 pm

To be honest, I would rather have a sequel that focuses on reworking the combat and adding new mechanics instead of just a new season of characters that will most likely be added into the next game anyway.

They're not working from scratch like they were with this game, it wouldn't take much time, like a year and a half at the most. As much as I enjoy the game, it does get pretty repetitive after awhile and another full year of the same exact combat system with just new faces wouldn't keep me invested like it was for season 1.

Cute little events like they did with Halloween and adding stages/balance patches would be good while waiting for the sequel would be good enough for me.
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Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

Postby 90sDBZ » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:55 pm

Logania wrote:To be honest, I would rather have a sequel that focuses on reworking the combat and adding new mechanics instead of just a new season of characters that will most likely be added into the next game anyway.

They're not working from scratch like they were with this game, it wouldn't take much time, like a year and a half at the most. As much as I enjoy the game, it does get pretty repetitive after awhile and another full year of the same exact combat system with just new faces wouldn't keep me invested like it was for season 1.

Cute little events like they did with Halloween and adding stages/balance patches would be good while waiting for the sequel would be good enough for me.

The benefit of doing a season 2 is that it keeps interest really high right now while the game is still hot. I think it would be more sensible to do season 2 and maybe even 3 while the casuals are still interested, rather than just give them nothing for a year or 2 until a sequel could be released. Also doing it this way doesn't force fans to pay for a new disc too soon. They can just pick and choose what DLC they want.

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Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

Postby Logania » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:22 pm

90sDBZ wrote:The benefit of doing a season 2 is that it keeps interest really high right now while the game is still hot. I think it would be more sensible to do season 2 and maybe even 3 while the casuals are still interested, rather than just give them nothing for a year or 2 until a sequel could be released. Also doing it this way doesn't force fans to pay for a new disc too soon. They can just pick and choose what DLC they want.


A lot of the casuals already left after the release of the game. In terms of fighting games it's still fairly up there with Street Fighter V and now Soul Calibur 6, but 2 more seasons with no real noticeable changes to the actual gameplay and just more characters wouldn't keep casuals actually committed. They'd play with them for a week, take a break for a month for the next batch of new DLC, rinse and repeat just like a lot of people did for Season 1.

It's already been about 2 months since the last of the DLC came out with no mention of Season 2 in sight but numbers are still pretty good involving the playerbase. With little updates and events every 1-2 months it will still keep the people committed to the game until a sequel could come out.

If not a sequel, then a big update to the game like SFV Arcade Edition would also be greatly welcomed.
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Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

Postby mute_proxy » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:47 am

What's the date for the next soundtrack dlc?

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Postby Hyena_Yamcha » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:46 pm

Majin Buu wrote:
Hyena_Yamcha wrote:Why can't people give both games credit.

I don't see any reason for being biased against a game , that's just a childish behaviour.

Also the fun differs for a person to another , many people are having a blast with it and many people see it as the best dragon ball game ever. (including me)


You answered your own question, because fun differs from person to person. People aren't going to (and shouldn't be expected to) give both games credit if they genuinely find one of them to be boring or otherwise not fun to play.

You might as well be asking "Why do people have to criticize things they don't like? Why can't people just like everything?"


Criticizing is very different than straight up bashing or complaining.

Many people hate the game because its not a budokai tenkaichi clone.

Which isn't the game's fault by any mean.
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Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

Postby Hellspawn28 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:37 am

Xenoverse 2 kept on getting DLC for the last two years. I don't see why can't Fighterz get more DLC.
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Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

Postby mute_proxy » Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:00 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Xenoverse 2 kept on getting DLC for the last two years. I don't see why can't Fighterz get more DLC.


They're completely different games, so they're not gonna be treated in the same manner. Not saying there won't be DLC, they're already adding the ToP theme song in after all

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Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

Postby Majin Buu » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:48 am

Hyena_Yamcha wrote:Criticizing is very different than straight up bashing or complaining


Complaints are a major part of criticism. When you lay-out the faults of something and elaborate on them, you're basically working off of your complaints about it.

In contrast, bashing is hating on something just for the sake of hating on it (though many people often misconstrue criticism for bashing).

Many people have valid reasons for disliking Xenoverse and aren't mindlessly bashing it.

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Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

Postby Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:58 am

November 2018 Patch Notes
Source: https://dba.bn-ent.net/?p=604
Translation by @GREATFERNMAN

New Modes:
"Fighterz Tenkaichi Budoukai" added
Initial exhibition dates will be announced in the future
"Christmas Capsules" added
Available 12/5 to 12/31
"Z Trophy Room" added

System Mechanics:

Super Dash:
Fixed a bug where your characters position (left or right) affected the trajectory of super dash
Fixed super dash not ending immediately when it clashes with other moves
Fixed super dash's trajectory acting strange when the opponent vanishes

Super Dash, Z Change, Guard Cancel Change:
Fixed a bug where the character immediately landed after hitting an opponent near the ground

Z Change, Guard Cancel Change:
Made hitstop on block the same as super dash

Guard Cancel Change:
Takes smash on hit
Increased recovery on hit
Increased untech time on hit

Z Assist:
You can no longer call a Z Assist in the same situations where you cannot Z Change (e.g: after blocking or taking damage)

Air Dragon Rush:
Added Head property

Vanish:
Fixed Z Change's trajectory becoming weird when vanished against

Ground Dash:
Special moves can be done during the startup of dash now

Dragon Balls:
When a character is KOed, the game will now show how many dragon balls there are

Special Move Inputs:
Made it so special moves have input priority over Z Reflect when inputted at a specific timing (probably to make inputs easier)

K.O Cinematic:
Fixed a bug where the animation continued when killing an opponent with a cinematic move
Characters:

SSJ Goku:
236L/M (Ground): Removed Head property
(A move having Head property means that Head invulnerable moves (2H, etc) will be invulnerable to it. This means that Goku's 236L/M now cannot be invuled through with 2H)

SSJ Vegeta:
j.2H: Added more horizontal travel distance

Piccolo:
2S: Decreased startup. Increased hitbox
Assist: The orb no longer disappears during cinematics as long as Piccolo is still on screen
236L (Ground): Wall bounces on hit now
j.236L/H: Decreased startup. Changed the falling speed on hit. Increased untech time
3/6S: Increased hitbox. Knocks opponent back on hit. Changed effect on hit
3S: Decreased startup

Teen Gohan:
5LL: Changed the amount of vertical distance gained. Increased untech time. Added landing recovery
5LLL: Changed the movement speed. Changed the effect on hit. Increased untech time. Made the move Head property.
2S/j.S: Fixed a bug where the ki blast would not explode when hitting things like barriers

Frieza:
5LLL: Fixed a bug where the cinematic would play out in an odd way
214S: Changed the effect on hit if it hits on the way back
OTG lvl3: Changed the situations and timings during which the super can be done. Increased startup. Increased damage

Ginyu:
5LL: Decreased startup
5LLL: Made it possible to cancel into S moves during the Z Combo

Trunks:
236L/H (Ground): Removed Head property
Lvl3: Increased grab range

Cell:
2S: Made the initial hitbox larger. Blows opponent back on hit

Android 18:
Assist, j.214S: Barrier size increased
22S/j.22S: Can now protect allied Z Assists

Gotenks:
2H: Increased the hitbox on the bottom of the move in the initial frames (probably fixes antiairing teen gohan, kid buu, etc)
214S: Fixed a bug where the move would act strangely when it hit an assist
Lvl3: Recovery until landing on hit

Krillin:
j.2S: Fixed a bug where the ki blast would not explode when hitting things like barriers
236X/j.236X: Increased untech time
214S: Reduced recovery on whiff or block

Kid Buu:
236L (Ground): Increased startup
j.236LM (Air lvl1): Increased untech time if it hits on the way down. Made it cross up less often after hitting

Fat Buu:
5M: Push back reduced
5H: Decreased startup. Changed movement speed. Upper hitbox reduced

Nappa:
214L/M (Saibamen): Total duration decreased (Nappa recovers faster from plant)
214S: 2nd hit startup decreased

Android 16:
Z Assist: Blockstun decreased
214S: Made it a multi hit move
236S: Decreased startup. Recovery on whiff decreased
Lvl3: Fixed a bug where the last hits could be blocked when Ultimate Z Changing at a specific timing. Changed opponent's distance after hit

Yamcha:
214X/j.214x: Untech time increased
All Wolf Fang Fist moves: Made it easier to combo airborne opponents

Tien:
214X/j.214X: Reduced landing recovery
Lvl3: Altered the damage distribution of the followups

Adult Gohan:
5H: Increase push back on block. Removes momentum
2H: Reduced the amount Gohan moves (probably doesn't rise as high)
236HS: Increased damage when charged
Lvl3: Fixed a bug where the opponent would appear in the cinematic

Hit:
236LM/j.236LM: Changed the timing where Ultimate Z Changes are doable. Increased damage and changed the effect on hit when the cinematic does not play
236LM (Ground): Hitbox increased above
j.236LM: Changed effect on hit
Lvl3: Fixed a bug where Z Changed could be done at the same time as supers after this move hit the opponent

Goku Blue:
214M/H: Now teleports before attacking. Increased startup
236L/M: Reflects ki blasts earlier now

Vegeta Blue:
j.2H: Increased horizontal movement
214X/j.214X: Reflects ki blasts earlier now

Beerus:
214X/j.214X: Decreased startup. Increased movement speed
236S: Decreased startup. Decreased total duration
214S: Decreased startup. Added armor property during the middle of the move
Lvl3: Recovery on hit decreased

Goku Black:
236LM/j.236LM: Increased damage
236HS/j.236HS: Changed effect on hit

Android 21:
5M: Push back decreased
214S (Green) (Barrier): Can now protect allied Z Assists
Air Lvl3: Recovery on hit decreased. Blows opponent back on hit

Bardock:
214X/j.214X: Increased untech time
Lvl3: Increased recovery on hit. Changed distance from opponent on hit

Broly:
2H: Increased the hitbox on the bottom of the move (probably fixes antiairing teen gohan, kid buu, etc)
Various Special Moves: Armor starts earlier now

Vegeto Blue:
j.2H: Jump cancelable
j.236LM: Minimum damage increased

Zamasu (Fused):
5M: Increased movement speed
236S/j.236S: Made it easier to follow up into 236X/j.236X after
Lvl3: Fixed a bug where the hit effects would look weird in certain situations

Base Goku:
236LM (Kaioken): Increased buffer time on the follow ups
Kaioken (M follow up): Added invulnerability during the spin
Kaioken (S/2S follow up): Decreased start up

Base Vegeta:
2S/j.2S: Decreased recovery
j.2H: Decreased recovery. Decreased active frames. Decreased horizontal movement

Android 17:
236LM: Fixed a bug where the hit effects would look weird in certain situations

Cooler:
Assist: Fixed a bug where Cooler would not push the opponent back
j.236LM: Fixed a bug where the cinematic would look weird when this move killed
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Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

Postby Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:22 pm

November free update trailer.

The tournament rules look fun.
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Postby IM21 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:10 pm

i like this free updates, but having to spend 1M Zeni for one of those special rooms is a joke.

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Postby Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:54 pm

Beerus actually feels like a Hakaishin now :o
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Postby Nickolaidas » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:13 am

Sonic Fox is thinking about maining Frieza? Holy crap.

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Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

Postby IM21 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:38 pm

just won game of the year for the fighting game. good job arc and bandai.

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Postby MKCSTEALTH » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:40 am

Yall. Say what you will about this game. But a Dragonball fighter just won fighting game of the year.

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Postby goku the krump dancer » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:58 am

I wanna post something about my hype for MK11!! buuuuut I can't. So yaaaay Dragon Ball :thumbup:
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Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

Postby Logania » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:53 pm

Good that it won Best Fighting Game, but at the same time there was basically no other choice.

You got

BlazBlue Cross Tag (no way in hell)
FighterZ (good contender)
Soul Calibur 6 (just came out, noooope)
Street Fighter V Arcade Edition (Add-on)

If it wouldn't have won, that would actually be a surprise. Kind of like how Mortal Kombat 11 is no doubt gonna win next year (so excited it's finally announced!)
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Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

Postby FortuneSSJ » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:44 pm

Congratulations Dragon Ball FighterZ! :clap:

It was well deserved and it's good to see this game doing so well, because it's been a decade since I invested so much time in a DB game.
It's still soon for a sequel, so season 2 DLC when?!

Even though I will never like that side switch at EVO 2018, SonicFox winning Best Esports Player category was also well deserved.
No doubt he's incredible and currently the best player in this game, with Kazunoko in second place.
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Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

Postby goku the krump dancer » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:58 pm

Go1 has fallen from MainEventer to top 8-er since EVO huh.
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Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

Postby Nickolaidas » Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:17 am

FortuneSSJ wrote:It's still soon for a sequel, so season 2 DLC when?!


If it isn't announced on the Dragon World Tour Finals, I will be disappointed.


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