"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[Wilderness]

I think there’s a rather big difference between a coincidental common hair style in anime, vs having a main trait that only one other form has in the entire franchise. A main trait that is replicated to the fullest detail.

There is, but don't you agree that if Mira Final Form were a Super Saiyan 4 or if the fur comes from the Saiyans DNA, they wouldn't straightfoward say it? The form appears in two games and neither of them mention Super Saiyan 4, or that it derives from it. We can't really label something just because it has a trait from another thing. That's just like saying with no evidences that all animals from the Tyrannosauridae family had feathers just because one of them was discovered to have them.

The only reasons I can think of for Mira Final Form to have fur are the ones I already mentioned, its creator is probably a fan of Super Saiyan 4 and paid a homage to it, or he's just another fanfic writer obsessed with fur who decided to put it on Mira's latest form.

Hold up! I never said at all that Mira is effectively a SSJ4. I was merely saying his design is clearly taken from the SSJ4 asthetic haha. That’s what the whole argument was regarding, or so I was the under the impression it was.

[Bullza]

The newest chapter of the Super Dragon Ball Heroes manga was released. It's here where it gets translated right?

[Dragon Wukong]

I think there’s a rather big difference between a coincidental common hair style in anime, vs having a main trait that only one other form has in the entire franchise. A main trait that is replicated to the fullest detail.

There is, but don't you agree that if Mira Final Form were a Super Saiyan 4 or if the fur comes from the Saiyans DNA, they wouldn't straightfoward say it? The form appears in two games and neither of them mention Super Saiyan 4, or that it derives from it. We can't really label something just because it has a trait from another thing. That's just like saying with no evidences that all animals from the Tyrannosauridae family had feathers just because one of them was discovered to have them.

The only reasons I can think of for Mira Final Form to have fur are the ones I already mentioned, its creator is probably a fan of Super Saiyan 4 and paid a homage to it, or he's just another fanfic writer obsessed with fur who decided to put it on Mira's latest form.

I dunno. It seems pretty relevant that Mira just happens to have Saiyan DNA, just happens to have his own Super Saiyan form and just coincidentally has another form more powerful than that that covers himself in fur.

Maybe if the fur only covered his shoulders or something, like the Saiyan maxi-fusion in Fusions, or on his arms, but again, the appearance of the form draws a lot of parallels with SS4.

Even if Mira lacks a tail, we've had stuff like Gotenks fusing to reach SS3, GT files implies Baby pushed Vegeta to SS3, not to mention the "blutz wave generator" bullcrap that let Vegeta go SS4 without a tail. I wouldn't go and say "Oh yeah Mira DEFINITELY has SS4" but I can't be 100% convinced it isn't some equivalent to that either. We'll likely never get an answer, but I mean hey there's plenty of bull-crap forms in Dragon Ball that don't get an explanation.

[The S]

Y'know, along the lines of characters that haven't appeared yet, I'm surprised there aren't more pre-Z characters . Particularly, stuff like Baba's fighters, Bora and Upa, a lot of the old Red Ribbon Army, the movie villains....

[AnimeNation101]

So, if Mechikabura gets the last Dark Dragon Ball at the end of SDBH7, would that mean that in SDBH8 we’ll see him in his prime form? And once he is defeated, will Fuu become the next big bad?

[The S]

Big bad... what? Beetleborg?

[mahakaishin1991]

Big bad... what? Beetleborg?

that took me back hard


Also if the empire falls will we run out of masked villains?

[Rinsankajugin]

Kafla's been added to Heroes!

[Grimlock]

I really don't understand when Heroes does these things. Base Kale and Super Saiyan 2 Caulifla makes that? Shouldn't at least result in base form (then we just have to assume they lowered their power at some point for not maintaning any transformation, like in the anime)? The same happens with Goku Black and Zamasu fusion, they fuse while Goku Black is in base form, rather than in Super Saiyan Rosé, shouldn't it affect the hair like in Dragon Ball Fusions?

Anyways, other than this weird thing Heroes does (and the fact that they're refusing to add base and Super Saiyan Caulifla for some reason), hopefully we get a proper name for that transformation. Or is it Kafla's regular Super Saiyan form? If so, then why is it green? Shouldn't the hair merge with the regular Super Saiyan and look like the fusion of Goku and Broly from Dragon Ball Fusions?

[Alruneia]

[spoiler][/spoiler]

So big eyes Kefla is an intended design choice, then? I was wondering about that, since her eyes weren't like that in base form during episode 114. Neither Kale nor Caulifla's eyes have the shape SS Kefla's do, so it's a little odd.
Also, I'm not very surprised that they're throwing her in this soon after her reveal. I hope there'll be more new interesting cards than just her.

[mahakaishin1991]

[spoiler][/spoiler]

So big eyes Kefla is an intended design choice, then? I was wondering about that, since her eyes weren't like that in base form during episode 114. Neither Kale nor Caulifla's eyes have the shape SS Kefla's do, so it's a little odd.
Also, I'm not very surprised that they're throwing her in this soon after her reveal. I hope there'll be more new interesting cards than just her.

I'm hoping for Sonael and Pilina at the very least but thats not gonna happen I dont think

[ArchedThunder]

That was fast. Hopefully they get Kale's missing forms in.

[mahakaishin1991]

That was fast. Hopefully they get Kale's missing forms in.

I dont see her getting anything other than super saiyan 3 if she gets it in the series

[ArchedThunder]

That was fast. Hopefully they get Kale's missing forms in.

I dont see her getting anything other than super saiyan 3 if she gets it in the series

I don't see why they wouldn't give her her "regular" super saiyan or her controlled form.

[The S]

Kafla's been added to Heroes!

Are those gonna be V-Jump promos?

[Grimlock]

I was right. The green transformation Kafla displays is just her Super Saiyan... Oh, and she's the SEC, along with...

[spoiler][/spoiler]

... Super Saiyan 4 Broly with the seventh Dark Dragon Ball (and he's indeed called "Broly Dark" ).

[spoiler][/spoiler]



GET READY FOR THE ULTIMATE THING... SUPER SAIYAN 4 BARDOCK! (name of the technique required).

[spoiler][/spoiler]

And where the hell is Mira with wings!? Was it a symbolic thing?

[Dragon Wukong]

Does that thing on the back say Kefla has a team attack with Hit/Cabba?

Also, really liking how SS4 Bardock looks.

[S3 Hendrix]

I called kafla! can’t wait for this mission to be fully released

[mahakaishin1991]

I really don't understand when Heroes does these things. Base Kale and Super Saiyan 2 Caulifla makes that? Shouldn't at least result in base form (then we just have to assume they lowered their power at some point for not maintaning any transformation, like in the anime)? The same happens with Goku Black and Zamasu fusion, they fuse while Goku Black is in base form, rather than in Super Saiyan Rosé, shouldn't it affect the hair like in Dragon Ball Fusions?

Anyways, other than this weird thing Heroes does (and the fact that they're refusing to add base and Super Saiyan Caulifla for some reason), hopefully we get a proper name for that transformation. Or is it Kafla's regular Super Saiyan form? If so, then why is it green? Shouldn't the hair merge with the regular Super Saiyan and look like the fusion of Goku and Broly from Dragon Ball Fusions?

Considering our previous discussions on tails and Mira cosplaying a super saiyan 4 (which seems to have multiple ways to get the form along with other incosistent transformations) this doesnt shock me.

Kale was her broly mode when she fused with califla and it made a base form saiyan in the anime

[goku the krump dancer]

So I'm guessing Bardock was a Great Monkey with a head band on lol.