What would you say the odds of this game dethroning Budokai 3 will be?

[DBZAOTA482]

As we all know, Budokai 3 is generally considered the pinnacle of DBZ fighting games. It was easily accessible , was cel-shaded eye-candy, and had a lot of the DBZ essentials but on top of that it actually had a good amount of depth as a fighting game. It pleased both casuals and hardcore alike, even if they're not a fan of Dragon Ball.

However, FigherZ looks promising as a DB fighter that actually can be taken seriously in the same light as Street Fighter or Tekken on top of being super satisfying aesthetically.

What's your thoughts...?

[Doctor.]

Can't dethrone what was never at the throne.

[PeanutSaiyan]

Budokai 3 was definitely on the throne. Burst Limit and other incarnations of Budokai 3 were arguably better games but the original Budokai 3 was one of the biggest surprises that year. Reading the overwhelmingly 4/5's and other high marks for a Dragonball Fighter? I can't tell you how shocked I was. Prior to that every review and preview of every Dragonball game had "You know the series isn't known for it's good video games.." or something to that effect.

I'ts on the throne because it was known throughout the whole gaming community as the one Dragonball game that finally broke free of that and delivered a solid, enoyable fighter.

That being said, absofuckinglutely FighterZ will sit on the throne.

[Lord Beerus]

I'd definitely say that, as far general critical reception goes, Budokai 3 definitely sits comfortable at the top. That being said, the Dragon Ball (Z) fighting games never reached to standard of fighting games, whether it be 2.5D or 3D arena fighters, that it can be debated than a metaphorical "throne" didn't even exist within the realm of Dragon Ball (Z) videogames. However, Dragon Ball FighterZ shows more potential of being a great Dragon Ball game and a great fighting game more than anything that has come before it.

[cheddarsword]

Personal opinion:

I think Fighter Z appeals more to the core fighting game audience than Budokai 3 ever did. It's not that it's a 2D fighter either, as DOA5 and Tekken have a strong player base. Rather, I think it's the quality that appears to have been put into the game. Budokai 3 feels like a stripped down version of DOA with projectiles.

In other words, as a fighting game, I think the Fighting Game Community takes Fighter Z more seriously because it looks like the developer themselves are taking it seriously.

Fighter Z takes Dragon Ball and molds it's concepts to match a fighting game's systems. Budokai 3 takes fighting game systems and molds it to Dragon Ball.

Well, that's how I see it at least. I could be wrong.

[Hellspawn28]

Beating Budokai 3 won't be that hard. Being better than Super DBZ would be a different story since people consider that one to be the best DBZ game.

[DBZAOTA482]

Beating Budokai 3 won't be that hard. Being better than Super DBZ would be a different story since people consider that one to be the best DBZ game.

Critical reception and consensus says otherwise:

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstat ... -budokai-3
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstat ... gon-ball-z

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/211141- ... z/75468152
https://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/920505-dra ... -budokai-3
https://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/932665-super-dragon-ball-z

http://www.ign.com/games/dragon-ball-z- ... ps2-679951
http://www.ign.com/games/super-dragon-ball-z/ps2-769480

[Videlphia76ers]

Whatever's on the throne, it was on PS2. Tenkaichi 3 or Budokai 3 are interchangeable based on one's preference.

[90sDBZ]

I think it's a tough call. Fighter Z will be taken much more seriously competitively than Budokai 3 was, but we still don't know what it will offer in terms of content, story, and accessibility.

Budokai 3 was easy to pick up and play, but had just enough depth to keep semi-serious fighting game players like myself interested. It also had a highly replayable story mode, a pretty big roster, really cool looking ultimate moves, customization options, a fun level up system, and a fantastic soundtrack.

If the Blaz Blue games are anything to go by Fighter Z could very well end up having a solid story mode itself. I still don't know if it will be enough to draw casuals in, but time will tell. One thing to be optimistic about is many people from the Fighting Game Community already saying that its beating Marvel vs Capcom Infinite at its own game.

[OLKv3]

It's outright denial to claim that Budokai 3 wasn't the top fan favorite for the longest time. I doubt this game will top it because it'll scare casuals away. Like Super DBZ, was a fun game, but casuals didn't like it and now it's only mentioned by fighting fans.

[Quebaz]

It's outright denial to claim that Budokai 3 wasn't the top fan favorite for the longest time. I doubt this game will top it because it'll scare casuals away. Like Super DBZ, was a fun game, but casuals didn't like it and now it's only mentioned by fighting fans.

Why would it scare casuals away?

[DBZAOTA482]

It's outright denial to claim that Budokai 3 wasn't the top fan favorite for the longest time. I doubt this game will top it because it'll scare casuals away. Like Super DBZ, was a fun game, but casuals didn't like it and now it's only mentioned by fighting fans.

Super DBZ failed because it was poorly marketed. FighterZ has actual hype behind it because it's marketed well and the game actually looks like a DBZ game instead of Street Fighter with DBZ skins.

[funrush]

Budokai 3 has nostalgia behind it, but Fighterz might have EVO.

My guess is Fighterz will be more popular with gamers and newer DB fans but Budokai 3 will generally still hold up for people who grew up playing it.

[GodKaio-Ken]

It's outright denial to claim that Budokai 3 wasn't the top fan favorite for the longest time. I doubt this game will top it because it'll scare casuals away. Like Super DBZ, was a fun game, but casuals didn't like it and now it's only mentioned by fighting fans.

Why would it scare casuals away?

As a casual in fighters, I'm not scared but I do know this game isnt for me exactly. Though Ill be playing it anyway.

[OLKv3]

It's outright denial to claim that Budokai 3 wasn't the top fan favorite for the longest time. I doubt this game will top it because it'll scare casuals away. Like Super DBZ, was a fun game, but casuals didn't like it and now it's only mentioned by fighting fans.

Why would it scare casuals away?

It'll take much more skill and time to get good at it, compared to games like B3 and BT where you can just jump in and have fun. Most fighters are like that. Like Street Fighter, GG, or Tekken

[WittyUsername]

FighterZ looks like it's going to be the most competitive game in the franchise, so the odds might not be that far off at the moment. Of course, the game isn't out yet, so we don't know for sure.

[ShadowBardock89]

Fighterz will have to bring out a more impressive roster than Budokai 3 with surprises in it [Budokai 3 had Kid Goku, Bardock, Broly, Cooler (Metal Cooler), Omega Shenron, SS4 Goku, and SS4 Vegeta], a great fighting system (which it appears it does), BEAM BATTLES (something the Xenoverse games are lacking), and interesting way of telling the story (which according to interviews, they are inspired by the Xenoverse games to not just retell the story. If that's the case, I'm all for it). Let's be honest, the games aren't comparable as fighting games. Its like comparing Street Fighter to Tekken. Or should I say MvC and DOA?

[shadd21]

Budokai 3 at least had a story mode that was playable so...

[Thanos]

This game topping "Dragon Rush: The Game"? Doesn't seem difficult at all. Between that and the glowy-red-can't-be-fazed power-up thing (when was that ever a thing in DBZ?), I don't understand the hype for this game.

Hopefully this game will be free of any shoehorned features like those that neither add to the game nor actual simulate something from the series proper.

[KorgDTR2000]

Pretty high, I'd say.