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How would you rank Kikuchis 23 music packages?

Post by Dragon Sponge » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:24 pm

How would you rank Kikuchis 23 music packages?

Here i want to ask you guys how you would rank the 23 music packages (http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Shunsuke_Kikuchi) Shunsuke Kikuchi made during the entire run of DB/DBZ and their Movies. Which ones like you more, and which ones like you less? I also would like to know your favorite piece for each music Package, you can also name several favorite pieces for each package if you want.
Before i begin, i link you several YouTubers were you can listen to most of those BMGs, also i link the website Kenesu(http://kenisu.webs.com/dragonballbgm.htm) to you were you can get names for the BGMs and see which episode/Movie has what BGM.

Now to the YouTuber:

* PopoLarge (https://www.youtube.com/user/Mugiwalaarge/playlists)

* TheZestanor (https://www.youtube.com/user/TheZestanor/playlists)

* MegaExupery (https://www.youtube.com/user/MegaExupery/videos)

* DBUM (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCNZ7J ... /playlists)

* supetalvd1 (https://www.youtube.com/user/supetalvd1/videos)

* CAMOTA17 (https://www.youtube.com/user/CAMOTA17)

* TheWorldDBZ (https://www.youtube.com/user/TheWorldDBZ/videos)

Now to my "current" Ranking (it might change later explained below):

* 1. M 500, Rating:10/10 Fave Piece: M 523? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JlnXrg ... rj&index=9)

* 2. M 2000, Rating:9,9/10 Fave piece: M 2023 B (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJWjEpb ... w&index=24)

* 3. M 2100, Rating:9,8/10 Fave piece: M 2130 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzTDc4g ... 3&index=20)

* 4. M 1800, Rating:9,7/10 Fave piece: M 1824 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG8UjIS ... RmA7aqmHoQ)

* 5. M 600, Rating:9,6/10 Fave piece: M 626? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTTzlhm ... T&index=22)

* 6. M 300, Rating:9,5/10 Fave piece: M 313 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2gXjxX ... g6HvzmOUZI)

* 7. M 400, Rating:9,4/10 Fave piece: M 422? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT0ODz_ ... C&index=16)

* 8. M 800, Rating:9,3/10 Fave piece: M 814 A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7UJsP1 ... gd8kS8Rvbd)

* 9. M 700, Rating:9,2/10 Fave piece: M 735 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvsvvfU ... 3&index=39)

* 10. M 900, Rating:9,1/10 Fave piece: M 924 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqvLiCA ... R&index=23)

* 11. M 100, Rating:9/10 Fave piece: M 118 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srofow1 ... g6HvzmOUZI)

* 12. M 200, Rating:8,9/10 Fave piece M 214? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPmWoPe ... h&index=11)

* 13. M 1600, Rating:8,8/10 Fave piece M 1614 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVm2llG ... 5e&index=9)

* 14. M 1100, Rating:8,7/10 Fave piece M 1120 A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAWoZgk ... Tn8ONFVdVb)

* 15. M 1000, Rating:8,6/10 Fave piece M 1018 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tThXdCx ... V&index=18)

* 16. M 00, Rating:8,5/10 Fave piece: M14 ? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQPt0Rb ... E&index=12)

* 17. M 1300, Rating:8,4/10 Fave piece: M 1306 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JslopdX ... 0wKnw3NNjn)

* 18. M 1200, Rating:8,3/10 Fave piece: M 1212 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGgz6gZ ... k&index=11)

* 19. M 1400, Rating:8,2/10 Fave piece M 1420 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7MPN5d ... 0&index=18)

* 20. M 1500, Rating:8,1/10 Fave piece M 1525 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFTzggt ... kW_E-qsNVP)

* 21. A-J, Rating:8/10 Fave piece: I20 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwQOfXI ... I&index=18)

* 22. M 1700, Rating:7,9/10 Fave piece: M 1707 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmUJMce ... 2926BE9D23)

* 23. M 1900, Rating:7,8/10 Fave piece: M 1915 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NOB7wo ... G&index=14)

Note: I have to excuse that my ranking might be pretty flawed. I listened to all or most tracks of each music package and gave it a score to decide which ones i like more, but i did it under the rule that the same score spot cannot be used again for another music package. And that resulted in the problem, that for latter packages i could only use either very high or very low score spots. So i am not quiet satisfied with the result so i might rethink it and change this list with a better rating system.

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Re: How would you rank Kikuchis 23 music packages?

Post by floofychan333 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:21 pm

PopaLarge is the bomb dot com and is this fandom's unsung hero. Unfortunately his account doesn't have all the BGMs but it does include the unreleased ones which are almost impossible to find. He also uses images from the anime episodes to help connect the BGM to the scene, which is effective.
Anyway, I would put the original DB's music on top followed by the Freeza arc's music and a tie between the Vegeta arc and Cell arc BGMs. Boo had some great BGMs but not much that was truly memorable so Kikuchi-sensei went back to using old BGMs quite a bit in that arc.
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Post by SpiritBombTriumphant » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:01 pm

As someone who used to hate Kikuchi's score, I recently started watching DBZ in the original Japanese language with English subtitles. Naturally, it comes with Kikuchi's score in the background. It's not as bad as I used to make it out to be, so I give him a D+/C-. I still like Faulconer, Yamamoto, and Sumitomo better for their work on Z or Kai. But Kikuchi held up as best he could, and apparently Japan loves him which definitely helped the series perform better and make more money. So good enough.

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Post by RoarkVegeta » Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:22 pm

1. A-J: This was a pretty close one for me, but it just takes the cake by a hair, because it's all released music and from the first disc of the Daizenshuu set, which I'll shamefully admit I downloaded back in the day when I was getting into the Japanese version. I chose H4 as my favorite, because how can you not?! Even when I was already familiar with Z, I have such a vivid memory of watching the first episode of Dragon Ball very late at night, and hearing that harp pluck with this music start..impossible to describe.

2. M00: Very close to being my personal favorite, but the released tracks take the cake because there are more. This music is extremely cheesy, yes, but that's a part of the charm to the original Dragon Ball, and while I do love Z, it's by far my favorite. Favorite for this is M17, as it's just more late night memories, and this one was used pretty often to close out episodes.

3. M600: Dragon Ball Movie 3 is my favorite of the original trio, because it's just tons of fun, and I appreciate the Arale appearance much more after reading and watching all of Dr. Slump. I chose M602 because it's actually a bit of a darker tone than one would expect from the original Dragon Ball. This aired around when the Piccolo Daimao arc was going on, and this piece ended up appearing quite a bit as recap music for the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, which I'm watching through right now, so it's fresh in my mind.

4. M2000: Movie 12 has such great music. It's a music of the fun style and then can get very serious. I chose M-2024 because I STILL get chills every time I watch this scene. It's shame it was never used in the series, but since there were really no scenes that warranted it, since the pieces were used so late in the series, it's understandable.

5. M800: DBZ Movie 1 has so many spectacular and well known pieces. Always a great time watching that movie. As far as favorites, I would probably blend M818 and M816, because the first Super Saiya-jin transformation is such a big one. I so wish I could have been a fan in Japan watching this, not knowing what was going to happen (but I guess I would to have missed the episode title that week :P)

6. M700: More early DBZ goodness. I might say that this era of the anime is my favorite, BGM wise. Brings in a brand new package of BGM made for Z, and brings back a ton of pieces from the original and the 3 movies. Favorite here has to be M710 (Prologue I, if you will) just because of another vivid memory of the first DBZ DVD I purchased, the Freeza "Transformation" disc. I decided to switch to the Japanese version, just out of plain curiosity. I had already heard "CHA-LA-HEAD-CHA-LA" from some videos and music downloads, and then when this came on, I was hooked. And years of listening to the (then) Daizenshuu EX podcast, I heard this at least 200 times!

7. M900: DBZ Movie 2, much like Movies 1 and 3 (and maybe 4 a bit) still has a lot of that original charm, and the music is no exception. This one was close for me, but I chose M929, simply because of the ending of the Bardock special, smiling about seeing Baby Goku and then come the waterworks for Hikari No Tabi and the montage.

8. M1000: Another great movie with great BGM. Very dark sounding music that ended up fitting perfectly in the TV series. This was VERY difficult to pick a favorite, but I went with M1023. A close second would be M1008, since it opened the Bardock special.

9. M1400: DBZ Movie 7 is actually not one of my favorite movies, but it still does have some great music. It was tough not to go with the Genki Dama theme, but M1416, played when the then only 3 Super Saiya-jin transform is awesome. I remember back during the Future Trunks arc of Super, hoping that Trunks would turn Super Saiyan Blue somehow someway, and this background music would start playing. Would have kicked so much ass.

10. M300: While the Red Ribbon Army arc does seem to drag on, I did enjoy the new music added for it. M317 is so catchy, and will easily get stuck in one's head.

11. M500: I just finished re-watching Piccolo Daimao, so this is fresh in my mind. I've got to agree with OP here, M523 is fantastic, and that gong(?) sound, with the blurry image of Goku that precedes this, and just the look of shock on everyone's face. Good stuff.

12. M100: Also introduced in the Red Ribbon arc, a ton of these ended up being re-used, up until Z. My personal favorite is M126, because I'm currently watching the 23rd Budokai, and it fits well with the scenery, pouring rain and upcoming change.

13. M400: DB Movie 2 is tons of fun, and adds a more mystical approach to what was just a generic Toriyama storyline of Goku and Kuririn's first training. Even though I do enjoy the choir piece, M407 is very nice and plain. Why this hasn't been added to an Options menu or something in a video game, I will never know.

14. M1300: DBZ Movie 6 had a ton of great BGM. I haven't seen the movie in years, but I think every single piece from this movie ended up appearing plenty of times in the Cell and Boo arcs. This was tough, but had to go with M1318.

15. M1200: DBZ Movie 5 is another one I don't think I've seen in a very long time. Not as great as movie 6, but some good stuff here. Went with M1217

16. M1100: DBZ Movie 4 does have some flaws, but a lot of this music ended up being used in Jinzoningen arc, and damn is it used well. M1103 is a perfect example. The characters have no idea what the hell is going on.

17. M1500: DBZ Movie 8 has some great tracks. Headlined by, I would say probably the most well-known, and in my opinion, probably the best piece in the series: M1522. Anytime this piece comes up in shuffle, I make DAMN sure not to skip it.

18. M1700: The Boo arc has good pieces, although I do think they should have brought in some more, much like the first 200 episodes did. However, it makes sense, since they had 9 movie packages to work with as well. Can't help but love Prolouge And Subtitle II.

19. M1600: Despite being a great movie (and having the best closing theme, don't let anyone tell you otherwise!), there aren't too many big pieces here. However, I couldn't help but pick M1615. Such an emotional scene, and really the shining moment of the Boo arc.

20. M1900: Don't love Movie 11, and not too many well-known pieces. Love M1914, and once I picked up a guitar I made sure this was one of the first ones I learned.

21. M1800: Another movie I've barely skimmed over, in Movie 10. I do enjoy M1818 after hearing it in the series a few times.

22. M2100: Don't hurt me! I have no disrespect for Movie 13, just haven't seen it all the way through. I do like Tapion, and he has a very catchy theme. M2106

23. M200: DB Movie 1, is a bit on the boring side. It's cheesy, and it's fun, but..eh. The only piece that sticks out to me is M205.

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Post by Ripper 30 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:20 am

RoarkVegeta wrote:1. A-J: This was a pretty close one for me, but it just takes the cake by a hair, because it's all released music and from the first disc of the Daizenshuu set, which I'll shamefully admit I downloaded back in the day when I was getting into the Japanese version. I chose H4 as my favorite, because how can you not?! Even when I was already familiar with Z, I have such a vivid memory of watching the first episode of Dragon Ball very late at night, and hearing that harp pluck with this music start..impossible to describe.

2. M00: Very close to being my personal favorite, but the released tracks take the cake because there are more. This music is extremely cheesy, yes, but that's a part of the charm to the original Dragon Ball, and while I do love Z, it's by far my favorite. Favorite for this is M17, as it's just more late night memories, and this one was used pretty often to close out episodes.

3. M600: Dragon Ball Movie 3 is my favorite of the original trio, because it's just tons of fun, and I appreciate the Arale appearance much more after reading and watching all of Dr. Slump. I chose M602 because it's actually a bit of a darker tone than one would expect from the original Dragon Ball. This aired around when the Piccolo Daimao arc was going on, and this piece ended up appearing quite a bit as recap music for the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, which I'm watching through right now, so it's fresh in my mind.

4. M2000: Movie 12 has such great music. It's a music of the fun style and then can get very serious. I chose M-2024 because I STILL get chills every time I watch this scene. It's shame it was never used in the series, but since there were really no scenes that warranted it, since the pieces were used so late in the series, it's understandable.

5. M800: DBZ Movie 1 has so many spectacular and well known pieces. Always a great time watching that movie. As far as favorites, I would probably blend M818 and M816, because the first Super Saiya-jin transformation is such a big one. I so wish I could have been a fan in Japan watching this, not knowing what was going to happen (but I guess I would to have missed the episode title that week :P)

6. M700: More early DBZ goodness. I might say that this era of the anime is my favorite, BGM wise. Brings in a brand new package of BGM made for Z, and brings back a ton of pieces from the original and the 3 movies. Favorite here has to be M710 (Prologue I, if you will) just because of another vivid memory of the first DBZ DVD I purchased, the Freeza "Transformation" disc. I decided to switch to the Japanese version, just out of plain curiosity. I had already heard "CHA-LA-HEAD-CHA-LA" from some videos and music downloads, and then when this came on, I was hooked. And years of listening to the (then) Daizenshuu EX podcast, I heard this at least 200 times!

7. M900: DBZ Movie 2, much like Movies 1 and 3 (and maybe 4 a bit) still has a lot of that original charm, and the music is no exception. This one was close for me, but I chose M929, simply because of the ending of the Bardock special, smiling about seeing Baby Goku and then come the waterworks for Hikari No Tabi and the montage.

8. M1000: Another great movie with great BGM. Very dark sounding music that ended up fitting perfectly in the TV series. This was VERY difficult to pick a favorite, but I went with M1023. A close second would be M1008, since it opened the Bardock special.

9. M1400: DBZ Movie 7 is actually not one of my favorite movies, but it still does have some great music. It was tough not to go with the Genki Dama theme, but M1416, played when the then only 3 Super Saiya-jin transform is awesome. I remember back during the Future Trunks arc of Super, hoping that Trunks would turn Super Saiyan Blue somehow someway, and this background music would start playing. Would have kicked so much ass.

10. M300: While the Red Ribbon Army arc does seem to drag on, I did enjoy the new music added for it. M317 is so catchy, and will easily get stuck in one's head.

11. M500: I just finished re-watching Piccolo Daimao, so this is fresh in my mind. I've got to agree with OP here, M523 is fantastic, and that gong(?) sound, with the blurry image of Goku that precedes this, and just the look of shock on everyone's face. Good stuff.

12. M100: Also introduced in the Red Ribbon arc, a ton of these ended up being re-used, up until Z. My personal favorite is M126, because I'm currently watching the 23rd Budokai, and it fits well with the scenery, pouring rain and upcoming change.

13. M400: DB Movie 2 is tons of fun, and adds a more mystical approach to what was just a generic Toriyama storyline of Goku and Kuririn's first training. Even though I do enjoy the choir piece, M407 is very nice and plain. Why this hasn't been added to an Options menu or something in a video game, I will never know.

14. M1300: DBZ Movie 6 had a ton of great BGM. I haven't seen the movie in years, but I think every single piece from this movie ended up appearing plenty of times in the Cell and Boo arcs. This was tough, but had to go with M1318.

15. M1200: DBZ Movie 5 is another one I don't think I've seen in a very long time. Not as great as movie 6, but some good stuff here. Went with M1217

16. M1100: DBZ Movie 4 does have some flaws, but a lot of this music ended up being used in Jinzoningen arc, and damn is it used well. M1103 is a perfect example. The characters have no idea what the hell is going on.

17. M1500: DBZ Movie 8 has some great tracks. Headlined by, I would say probably the most well-known, and in my opinion, probably the best piece in the series: M1522. Anytime this piece comes up in shuffle, I make DAMN sure not to skip it.

18. M1700: The Boo arc has good pieces, although I do think they should have brought in some more, much like the first 200 episodes did. However, it makes sense, since they had 9 movie packages to work with as well. Can't help but love Prolouge And Subtitle II.

19. M1600: Despite being a great movie (and having the best closing theme, don't let anyone tell you otherwise!), there aren't too many big pieces here. However, I couldn't help but pick M1615. Such an emotional scene, and really the shining moment of the Boo arc.

20. M1900: Don't love Movie 11, and not too many well-known pieces. Love M1914, and once I picked up a guitar I made sure this was one of the first ones I learned.

21. M1800: Another movie I've barely skimmed over, in Movie 10. I do enjoy M1818 after hearing it in the series a few times.

22. M2100: Don't hurt me! I have no disrespect for Movie 13, just haven't seen it all the way through. I do like Tapion, and he has a very catchy theme. M2106

23. M200: DB Movie 1, is a bit on the boring side. It's cheesy, and it's fun, but..eh. The only piece that sticks out to me is M205.
Hey do you know where can we find the track which plays here at 3:07 ?
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Post by simtek34 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:15 am

Ripper 30 wrote:Hey do you know where can we find the track which plays here at 3:07 ?
Try checking this thread. viewtopic.php?f=12&t=22803

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Post by Ripper 30 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:31 am

simtek34 wrote:
Ripper 30 wrote:Hey do you know where can we find the track which plays here at 3:07 ?
Try checking this thread. viewtopic.php?f=12&t=22803
I did check that before but I can't identify that track, by the way do you know where can we listen to that particular piece?
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Re: How would you rank Kikuchis 23 music packages?

Post by Daisetsu » Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:49 am

That track is Murasaki on the Run. TheZestanor's channel is great place to go for most (if not all) of the unreleased stuff (sans GT).

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Post by Ripper 30 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:16 am

Daisetsu wrote:That track is Murasaki on the Run. TheZestanor's channel is great place to go for most (if not all) of the unreleased stuff (sans GT).
Thanks I was searching for this for a long time and yes it looks like a very good channel for DB Tracks.
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