SpiritBombTriumphant wrote:Boo Kai doesn't have the blurriness, so that is a plus. But that tint is seriously grinding my damn gears. You don't have to zoom in on the image to notice that crap. It reeks of "we fucked up and don't care to fix it" from Toei. At least FUNi's BDs have to be carefully analyzed (or not so carefully) to see their mistakes. I've noticed that some people on here will do microscope level analysis on the footage we get to find flaws for it. If you don't do that, it's fine. That's how I do it. As I just said, your examples of why the BDs are FUBAR require close attention to the footage. A casual viewer won't notice it as easily. As for the Dragon Boxes having tint, I never saw footage from it (besides screenshots), so I can't say anything.
They don't require close attention, they just require a basic knowledge of how it's supposed to look.Hell, even comparing it to the botched up Orange Bricks shows how artificial and over-contrasted it looks
. The main sin as far as I'm concerned is how artificial it looks, though; they removed all the texture from it, making it look like it was all drawn in solid colours by some guy in MS Paint. That's not
how Dragon Ball is supposed to look.
Anyway, neither shot of Krillin is zoomed in. Remember, it's 1920x1080 footage. What you're seeing there is 1:1 size, just with the rest of the image cropped out. The only bit that's zoomed in is the DVD footage, and you can quite clearly see that although the DVD has some roughness like the rainbow artifacts, it has the exact same level of detail as the Blu Rays, despite the Blu Rays supposedly being HD. But the DVD is superior due to the full framing(Plus it keeps the texture of the show intact better than the BDs). This is unacceptable for a Blu Ray "Remaster", and I can't buy the discs on this basis, because doing so encourages them to continue this nonsense. The blurring in the other picture isn't the whole point, but it is still really bad. The real thing wrong with that picture is the backgrounds; they've been reduced down from their beautiful, painted looks to a bunch of solid colours like the main animation has. It looks terrible
SpiritBombTriumphant wrote:For the record, KFC's international version bugs the hell out of me in addition to what Toei did with the tint. It has more episodes than the Japanese version did, and they seem to be mostly filler. I heard that the most recent episode had the Cell Games re-enactment, which was filler. We already had enough filler in the Japanese version of Boo Kai, so now I have to deal with more filler. They only reduced the filler by around 25% if the Dragon Ball Wiki is to be believed, and my memory serves me correctly. Which you might want to check, since it often fails me.
But would it have been so hard to reduce filler more, give us 4:3, and not do that damn tint? I would buy the BDs if the tint was simply removed, even with the additional filler we have that the Japanese broadcast didn't. But they are just looking to give me reasons to not buy this, and I really want to own Kai, but I just can't see a reason to.
They reduced the Japanese version down, but they did it badly. Yes, Boo Kai should have been 4:3 with better filler reduction, but that would have only happened if it had just been an additional 30-40 episodes of Kai 1.0. It's a huge shame, and Toei are idiots for not doing this really, but there's nothing to be done.
Here's the thing though, Funi's BDs are giving us content we already have in a better form. Toei is actually giving us something we didn't have before; it's a cut-down version with better quality audio, a new score, and an infinitely superior dub.
End of the day, I don't expect to convince you of this. Honestly, enjoy what you like. The thing that really irks me though, is that people buying these BDs and just tolerating what they're given basically ruins the chances of us ever getting a proper release in HD, even though the Level masters were done all the way up to somewhere in the Cell arc. Worst part is, there's no solution to this problem. I can't say not to buy it, because that just makes me sound like an ass, especially given it's the only affordable release these days. And I want to support Kai, because it supports the superior dubbing, and it's an alternative option to Funi's terrible main BDs, but because of how badly Toei screwed up the remastering of Boo Kai, I can't really recommend it on video quality, and their screwing up of the filler reduction makes it not a huge amount better in that regard, so I can only convincingly recommend it to dub fans.
Ugh. I really hate this situation.