"Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters" Parts DVD/Blu-ray Thread

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Post by Tobi555 » Tue May 23, 2017 4:02 pm

Anyone know how the sound mixing is on part 2 of TFC? :)

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Post by Jugulator95 » Tue May 23, 2017 5:20 pm

Tobi555 wrote:Anyone know how the sound mixing is on part 2 of TFC? :)
It's still muffled on the dub, the Japanese version still sounds fine.

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Post by ShadowDude112 » Tue May 23, 2017 6:34 pm

I will compliment Rightstuf on one thing. They pack their stuff better than amazon. I got my Part 2 from amazon and some of the slipcover was dented since it was in a bubble mailer. Not a big thing, but it just kind of bugs me since I wish it was packed better.
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Post by Freeza Soldier #156 » Tue May 23, 2017 6:46 pm

So, something kind of interesting. In the episode where Buu kills Babidi, we knew that Toei had edited the blood to be purple instead of red. In the episode discussion thread for the Japanese broadcast, user Sangofe stated that the French broadcast episode still had the red blood, however, after watching the episode on Part 2 today, I noticed that the episode contained Toei's edit. Can anyone who's seen/owns the French version of TFC confirm or deny if that edit is present in that version? Either way, I'm actually glad that we ended up with it because I look at it more as a correction than censorship, akin to Toei changing Piccolo's blood color in the Saiyan Arc. Babidi was shown earlier with purple blood when Piccolo sliced him in half so it's actually more consistent. Just something I thought was interesting.

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Post by ErikB » Tue May 23, 2017 7:19 pm

Freeza Soldier #156 wrote:So, something kind of interesting. In the episode where Buu kills Babidi, we knew that Toei had edited the blood to be purple instead of red. In the episode discussion thread for the Japanese broadcast, user Sangofe stated that the French broadcast episode still had the red blood, however, after watching the episode on Part 2 today, I noticed that the episode contained Toei's edit. Can anyone who's seen/owns the French version of TFC confirm or deny if that edit is present in that version? Either way, I'm actually glad that we ended up with it because I look at it more as a correction than censorship, akin to Toei changing Piccolo's blood color in the Saiyan Arc. Babidi was shown earlier with purple blood when Piccolo sliced him in half so it's actually more consistent. Just something I thought was interesting.
Interesting. Has anyone confirmed whether Super Buu's eyes are corrected to red in this release? I have my copy but I won't be able to check for a few hours yet.

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Post by Footlong Shoe » Tue May 23, 2017 8:39 pm

ErikB wrote:Has anyone confirmed whether Super Buu's eyes are corrected to red in this release? I have my copy but I won't be able to check for a few hours yet.
I haven't watched that far yet either, but the trailer for Part 3 shows his eyes as still being white, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Post by TRIZACK » Tue May 23, 2017 9:14 pm

ErikB wrote:
Freeza Soldier #156 wrote:So, something kind of interesting. In the episode where Buu kills Babidi, we knew that Toei had edited the blood to be purple instead of red. In the episode discussion thread for the Japanese broadcast, user Sangofe stated that the French broadcast episode still had the red blood, however, after watching the episode on Part 2 today, I noticed that the episode contained Toei's edit. Can anyone who's seen/owns the French version of TFC confirm or deny if that edit is present in that version? Either way, I'm actually glad that we ended up with it because I look at it more as a correction than censorship, akin to Toei changing Piccolo's blood color in the Saiyan Arc. Babidi was shown earlier with purple blood when Piccolo sliced him in half so it's actually more consistent. Just something I thought was interesting.
Interesting. Has anyone confirmed whether Super Buu's eyes are corrected to red in this release? I have my copy but I won't be able to check for a few hours yet.
I can confirm they are still white.

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Post by ErikB » Tue May 23, 2017 10:11 pm

TRIZACK wrote: I can confirm they are still white.
Dang. Well, thanks for letting me know.

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Post by Tylerman29 » Wed May 24, 2017 9:28 am

I think the audio issues bother me more than the green tint...are replacement discs a possibility?
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Post by PickleMonster8859 » Wed May 24, 2017 11:08 am

So I just sent rightstuf my order cancellation notice for Part 2. Does anyone know how long will that take for them to cancel the order and send back an email? I'm still hoping to pick it up at walmart today.

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Post by DHM211 » Wed May 24, 2017 11:49 am

Super Buu sounds way too much like semi perfect Cell now.

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Post by Freeza Soldier #156 » Wed May 24, 2017 12:07 pm

PickleMonster8859 wrote:So I just sent rightstuf my order cancellation notice for Part 2. Does anyone know how long will that take for them to cancel the order and send back an email? I'm still hoping to pick it up at walmart today.
I got confirmation within a few minutes. I'm sure it depends on how busy they are, but they're usually pretty quick.

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Post by ErikB » Wed May 24, 2017 12:30 pm

I watched up until Vegeta's kamikazee sacrifice last night. Man, I knew the Z dub's translation got better by the Buu saga but there are so many lines that were word-for-word the same in Kai and it caused me to do several double-takes. Mind you, the first bit of home video Dragon Ball I ever had was a VHS of some of the Majin Vegeta episodes that my brother bought, so a lot of that dialogue is burned into my brain.

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Post by 90sDBZ » Wed May 24, 2017 12:54 pm

ErikB wrote:
TRIZACK wrote: I can confirm they are still white.
Dang. Well, thanks for letting me know.
I've always gotten the impression his eyes were actually supposed to be white up until the point were they change red in the Time Chamber. To me it seems like they were going for dramatic effect when his eyes turn red during his battle with Gotenks. It makes sense considering the camera focuses on his face, his eyes are suddenly red, he gives a twisted smile, and Gotenks reacts in horror as the background of the Time Chamber also begins to change colour.

This was the only video I could find but if you watch the scene back it makes sense:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-PKr7t_6_8

I think the "correction" they made in the Japanese Broadcast of Kai was actually the mistake and not the other way around.

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Post by Freeza Soldier #156 » Wed May 24, 2017 1:58 pm

Speaking of Super Buu's eyes, they actually did something pretty cool with it in TFC. As you can see in the video posted above, in Z his eyes have suddenly changed from white to red after the punch, however, in Kai, they actually edited it so that his eyes are still white when he leans up after the punch and you can see them transition to red. At first I thought the Japanese broadcast of Buu Kai was the better product because of the edits and such, but after being able to see it for myself, I definitely think we ended up with the better product.

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Post by Tylerman29 » Wed May 24, 2017 3:02 pm

The effects sound even worse on part 2. Maybe because there is more action, I notice it more. Its a damn shame too because the dub is freakin fantastic. Maybe they will fix it on a complete final chapters set or re-release..
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed May 24, 2017 3:53 pm

Tylerman29 wrote:The effects sound even worse on part 2. Maybe because there is more action, I notice it more. Its a damn shame too because the dub is freakin fantastic. Maybe they will fix it on a complete final chapters set or re-release..
Don't count on it. Same as before, the effects aren't bad enough that it necessitates a fix. Especially since the mix has already been completed for some time, and there are so many muffled sounds, a fix would be very far out of the way without substantial payoff. Everyone should continue under the assumption that this won't be remedied.
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Post by superfan2024 » Wed May 24, 2017 4:45 pm

Freeza Soldier #156 wrote:Speaking of Super Buu's eyes, they actually did something pretty cool with it in TFC. As you can see in the video posted above, in Z his eyes have suddenly changed from white to red after the punch, however, in Kai, they actually edited it so that his eyes are still white when he leans up after the punch and you can see them transition to red. At first I thought the Japanese broadcast of Buu Kai was the better product because of the edits and such, but after being able to see it for myself, I definitely think we ended up with the better product.
Oh cool, is there a video that shows this?

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Post by Daisetsu » Wed May 24, 2017 4:51 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Tylerman29 wrote:The effects sound even worse on part 2. Maybe because there is more action, I notice it more. Its a damn shame too because the dub is freakin fantastic. Maybe they will fix it on a complete final chapters set or re-release..
Don't count on it. Same as before, the effects aren't bad enough that it necessitates a fix. Especially since the mix has already been completed for some time, and there are so many muffled sounds, a fix would be very far out of the way without substantial payoff. Everyone should continue under the assumption that this won't be remedied.
From what I can tell, part 2 suffers the same problem as the second half of part 1; the center audio track is out of sync. People with 5.1 systems probably won't notice but I feel for you stereo users. Unless it's fixed officially, the only thing to do is wait until someone releases some "patches" that can only be used on PC like OmegaRockman did for part 1.

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Post by Freeza Soldier #156 » Wed May 24, 2017 5:15 pm

superfan2024 wrote:[
Oh cool, is there a video that shows this?
https://youtu.be/Rq08AfbvQ0w

Sorry for no sound. Was in the middle of work and just had time to take a quick vid.

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