Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

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Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby matt0044 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:20 am

Like Colleen and Merdith are both good in their own ways but you'd think the dub staff would stick to one or the other.

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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby Jinzoningen MULE » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:28 am

Meredith McCoy wasn't available when Kai was being recorded, but she's back now and she's here to stay.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby matt0044 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:23 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Meredith McCoy wasn't available when Kai was being recorded, but she's back now and she's here to stay.

That's kind of inconsistent.

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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby theoriginalbilis » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:28 pm

matt0044 wrote:That's kind of inconsistent.


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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby SaintEvolution » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:01 am

theoriginalbilis wrote:
matt0044 wrote:That's kind of inconsistent.


Welcome to English-dubbed Dragon Ball.

That is not exclusive of the english dubs. Most of the dubs around the world had voice replacements in the same series in some moment.

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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby mecha3000 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:53 am

matt0044 wrote:
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Meredith McCoy wasn't available when Kai was being recorded, but she's back now and she's here to stay.

That's kind of inconsistent.


It's not as inconsistent as you think. For all of Z and GT, Meredith voiced 18. It's just for Kai that she got a recast because she was unavailable. But if you want consistency, just watch: Dragon Ball Z to Dragon Ball Super because Meredith voices 18 in the original Z. I mean, sure you'll have to deal with a less quality dub than Kai - But unlike most people on here: The Z dub (at least the later parts of it) is not THAT bad. There's still some quality value to it.

Also, certain voice actors in the original version also got recast so it's not as uncommon as you think. However, in terms of all the English Kid Gokus we have had (Saffron, Nadolny, and Colleen) - Yeah, that's really inconsistent.

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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby Danfun64 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:55 pm

Apparently McCoy is in The Final Chapters...so.....

The vocal inconsistency with English DBZ dubs can be really annoying.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby Nightmare Wheel » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:01 pm

Danfun64 wrote:Apparently McCoy is in The Final Chapters...so.....

The vocal inconsistency with English DBZ dubs can be really annoying.


Funimation's casting announcement said it's still Colleen in Final Chapters.(The link i had died, but I remember it clearly.)

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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby Eternal Super Saiyan » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:05 am

So many years have passed since original DBZ Funimation voices, don't be surprised if a few voice actress/actors are either not available or no longer interested. Personally I prefer the original but I'll take whatever they can provide. I was okay with Kai for the most part (only thing difficult accepting was Gohan's new voice actor/actress LOL), but I hope they do a good job with the Buu Saga Kai funimation. (JP so far is doing a AA+ job on this... hope US follows suit with similar performance).
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby Muffin Man » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:03 am

mecha3000 wrote:
matt0044 wrote:
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Meredith McCoy wasn't available when Kai was being recorded, but she's back now and she's here to stay.

That's kind of inconsistent.


It's not as inconsistent as you think. For all of Z and GT, Meredith voiced 18. It's just for Kai that she got a recast because she was unavailable. But if you want consistency, just watch: Dragon Ball Z to Dragon Ball Super because Meredith voices 18 in the original Z. I mean, sure you'll have to deal with a less quality dub than Kai - But unlike most people on here: The Z dub (at least the later parts of it) is not THAT bad. There's still some quality value to it.


Doing that would give you a consistent 18, but an inconsistent Frieza (and I'd say Frieza had the more significant change).


Personally I wish they'd have Meredith redub Colleen's lines in Kai now that she's back, like how they had certain characters redubbed in the orange bricks. Certainly they'll have a "definitive edition box set" release of all of DBZ Kai at some point, so that would be the opportune time to do it.

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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby Jinzoningen MULE » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:11 am

That would be totally unnecessary. Cast changes are a thing that happens, no sense in obsessing over the consistency of it.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby TheBlackPaladin » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:48 pm

SaintEvolution wrote:
theoriginalbilis wrote:
matt0044 wrote:That's kind of inconsistent.


Welcome to English-dubbed Dragon Ball.

That is not exclusive of the english dubs. Most of the dubs around the world had voice replacements in the same series in some moment.


For that matter, the original Japanese version has had its fair share of replacements over the years.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:56 pm

Nightmare Wheel wrote:
Danfun64 wrote:Apparently McCoy is in The Final Chapters...so.....

The vocal inconsistency with English DBZ dubs can be really annoying.


Funimation's casting announcement said it's still Colleen in Final Chapters.(The link i had died, but I remember it clearly.)

Yeah I am pretty sure I read that too. It makes sense considering the dub of TFC started in 2013, McCoy came back for BoG which FUNi dubbed in 2014.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby huzaifa_ahmed » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:30 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote:
SaintEvolution wrote:
theoriginalbilis wrote:
Welcome to English-dubbed Dragon Ball.

That is not exclusive of the english dubs. Most of the dubs around the world had voice replacements in the same series in some moment.


For that matter, the original Japanese version has had its fair share of replacements over the years.


I typed something longer out earlier, but I'll just say, simply put, that generally speaking, the owner of the show is much more accountable for these things, & DB dub issues are really on Toei, who have a pattern of both negligent & also heavily localized adaptations of their work (as opposed to investing in good dubs - which admittedly are a minority interest). The fact that they allowed whoever was distributing their stuff to use randoms, & especially the lack of translations, shows a clear lack of care about the final product. Domestically, they put a ton of money into the VO - performances which, btw, would for a very long time, not really be heard by most outside Japan. I'm not sure how other countries were treated, it'd be a nice thing to have concrete/synthesized info somewhere.

For actor replacements, they are generally needed even in domestic productions, Toei did as well as say WB in keeping their domestic casts straight (though they woefully lag behind in international cast consistency), I think the only replacements are Suzuoki, Utsumi, & Gori, & mostly just with VAs who are already in the cast (Midorikawa, Otomo), although there are a few newer VAs, & Shozo Iizuka is replaced as Nappa despite being still alive (he's older so i get it).

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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby matt0044 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:15 pm

Nightmare Wheel wrote:
Danfun64 wrote:Apparently McCoy is in The Final Chapters...so.....

The vocal inconsistency with English DBZ dubs can be really annoying.


Funimation's casting announcement said it's still Colleen in Final Chapters.(The link i had died, but I remember it clearly.)

Well, I think McCoy replacing Clinkenbeard for the Buu Saga onwards would've made enough sense with the Seven year time skip, growing up from a young adult.

That said, I feel like I'm in the minority for liking Colleen as #18 in terms of how she emotes a whole lot better than Meridith had. Not that the latter hasn't improved but I like how the former gives a more emotional performance. God knows how awkward the switch-back must've been. XD

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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby Dragon Ball Gus » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:36 pm

Uh, Colleen Clinkenbeard did come back as Android 18, right? They said she would in the casting announcement. For Kai: TFC, not for Super.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby Nejishiki » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:35 am

Right, she worked on Dragon Ball Z Kai The Final Chapters as No. 18. Her absence relates to Dragon Ball Super & the timing of each title's recording dates.

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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby Dragon Ball Gus » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:18 pm

You know who could've been a better replacement for Meredith McCoy? Jamie Marchi.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby matt0044 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:52 am

Dragon Ball Gus wrote:You know who could've been a better replacement for Meredith McCoy? Jamie Marchi.

No, she's be too... valley girl with her Anarchy Panty from P&SwG. Colleen really gets 18's attitude as well as her youth.

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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?

Postby SingleFringe&Sparks » Wed May 03, 2017 11:46 pm

Danfun64 wrote:Apparently McCoy is in The Final Chapters...so.....

The vocal inconsistency with English DBZ dubs can be really annoying.

To be honest, I thought they were doing something where they kept Colleen for Kai because she already started it, and put McCoy on for BoG and Super for the dub nostalgia they were marketing. McCoy in TFC breaks my theory.
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