Thoughts on Colleen Clinkenbeard?

[Soppa Saia People]

Wasn't that her only role for him ?

Once from Kai and once from Super Episode 16. There are also the video game performances.

Ah. Make sense I've never heard them. Haven't watched Kai sans the Saiyan Saga, my TV is on mute for Video Games, and have watched like 5 episodes of Super.

[matt0044]

Once Gohan steps out of the RoSaT though she no longer fits and it sounds ore like Luffy than Gohan

Honestly, her Luffy always sounded like her Gohan but closer to puberty so I had little issue on that.

[Bansho64]

I don't really get this whole "sounds like Luffy thing". I saw Kai way before I saw One Piece so, to me, it would logically be the other way around. Gohan just sounds like Gohan.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

If you've only heard her voice Gohan, then you associate her voice as Gohan first, and people who heard her first as Luffy hear her as Luffy, due to the fact that her undertone is the same and recognizable. (A lot like Stephanie Sheh) to the point where you can pretty much hear the voice you heard her do first in all the new characters she does. Thats how it is with a lot of VA with a limited range. (Especially most of the Viz actors/sometimes infamously). Though funny enough, I didn't know she was in Z until I realized she played Zangya before Kai happened. Getting used to Kai, I don't have a problem with her as Gohan at all, I just never liked her screams. Though they're solid, its the pitch of them that seemed to annoy me most and sometimes she makes Gohan's voice sound a bit too cartoony to me. I don't really like her as No. 18. Again, its not a bad casting but I think No. 18's voice should be a tone deeper and less flamboyant, as her Japanese voice sounds more mellowed in her tone. Thats just my opinion though.

[matt0044]

Again, its not a bad casting but I think No. 18's voice should be a tone deeper and less flamboyant, as her Japanese voice sounds more mellowed in her tone. Thats just my opinion though.

I dunno, I think her 18 fit best with how she was portrayed in the Japanese version more with being a cybernetic teenager essentially with a sense of fashion and whatnot.

[IAmTheMilkMan]

Again, its not a bad casting but I think No. 18's voice should be a tone deeper and less flamboyant, as her Japanese voice sounds more mellowed in her tone. Thats just my opinion though.

I dunno, I think her 18 fit best with how she was portrayed in the Japanese version more with being a cybernetic teenager essentially with a sense of fashion and whatnot.

Yeah, I share that opinion with you. Colleen's take on 18 is more in line with how I perceive the Japanese voice. "A tone deeper and less flamboyant" just sounds like McCoy.

Though, is it just me, or was Colleen voicing her somewhat differently in TFC during the tournament? That may have had something to do with how 18 is in the scenes themselves, but it sounded like she was voicing her a tad deeper than usual, almost like she was mimicking McCoy. Not to mention, she came dangerously close to sounding like her Gohan during the fight with Goten and Trunks, which I never once noticed during the Android/Cell arc of Kai. I don't know... maybe I'm hearing things that aren't there, but it kind of bummed me out. Her acting was still great, though, so I'm happy with it.

[Metalwario64]

I was just watching the episodes of the original Dragon Ball where Krillin dies with my Dad (dubbed), and Nadolny showed no real emotion in those scenes (and the dialog sucked: "Poor Krillin... he's gone..."), and she constantly makes these throaty grunting sounds when Goku's supposed to be both angry and upset.

Her voice work in Z (and since people have commented on it) specifically when Gohan was SS2 she was trying too hard to sound tough and cool, and it came across as hokey.

I definitely much prefer Clinkenbeard, even though some of her yells are a bit too shrill for my taste, her acting just has much more range and emotion than Nadoldny's performance. When it comes to sheer voice quality though, Saffron Henderson probably still wins on that one for sounding the most like an actual child.

[matt0044]

Though, is it just me, or was Colleen voicing her somewhat differently in TFC during the tournament?

I thought it was to sound more like an adult with how she's a mother and whatnot.

even though some of her yells are a bit too shrill for my taste,

I always liked how shrill her Gohan could get because of how it captured how he's one of Earth's strongest fighters but still a child above all else. It works in the Saiyan-Freeza arc with how he would barely be in First Grade at a School. In the Cell Saga, it's subtly altered to that of a kid bordering on puberty with the extra year in the time chamber tipping the scales more.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Again, its not a bad casting but I think No. 18's voice should be a tone deeper and less flamboyant, as her Japanese voice sounds more mellowed in her tone. Thats just my opinion though.

I dunno, I think her 18 fit best with how she was portrayed in the Japanese version more with being a cybernetic teenager essentially with a sense of fashion and whatnot.

Yeah, I share that opinion with you. Colleen's take on 18 is more in line with how I perceive the Japanese voice. "A tone deeper and less flamboyant" just sounds like McCoy.

Not to mention, she came dangerously close to sounding like her Gohan during the fight with Goten and Trunks, which I never once noticed during the Android/Cell arc of Kai. I don't know... maybe I'm hearing things that aren't there, but it kind of bummed me out. Her acting was still great, though, so I'm happy with it.

I was just watching her fight with Mighty-Mask & Sparring with Krillin too and her voice sounded pretty high pitched there, to where she sounds a lot like her Kid Gohan voice which, I don't really like. I don't know why she is directed to sound like that when looking back at her voice for Zangya, it sounds closer to McCoy in tone and what I/we might be looking for in a better No.18. Funny enough.

[ConfusedPhantom]

Her acting is more consistent than the others in Kai. Though as far as boy voices go, I do think the voice finally got down with Luffy recently, since her voice got deeper and rounder as time goes on.

[matt0044]

I was just watching her fight with Mighty-Mask & Sparring with Krillin too and her voice sounded pretty high pitched there, to where she sounds a lot like her Kid Gohan voice which, I don't really like.

Usually that tend to be the case when they scream and the like. Still, It still sounds like Clinkenbeard's Erza Scarlet/Knightwalker but more like a teenage girl.

[MaxZ]

her Gohan was okay earlier in Kai but Nadolni was better.

I don't like her as 18, McCoy was way better

[matt0044]

her Gohan was okay earlier in Kai but Nadolni was better.

For me, Nadolny was a good Goku but as far as Gohan's pre-pubescent years go, Clinkenbeard was a better choice.

[perucho1990]

The biggest issue with her is every time she yells, she is unbearable, its more unbearable than Nozawa ATATATATATATATATATATATA

[MaxZ]

her Gohan was okay earlier in Kai but Nadolni was better.

For me, Nadolny was a good Goku but as far as Gohan's pre-pubescent years go, Clinkenbeard was a better choice.

I felt Clinkenbeard was fine as the younger Gohan at the start, but later on when Gohan is an adolescent in the Cell Arc, it just wasn't suitable anymore

[Rory]

She's the best English dubbed Gohan, I'd say. Her Gokuu however leaves much to be desired.

[matt0044]

I felt Clinkenbeard was fine as the younger Gohan at the start, but later on when Gohan is an adolescent in the Cell Arc, it just wasn't suitable anymore

He was still technically nine/ten so I doubt they needed another VA at that time. I mean, we all know that teen Gohan was a major misnomer, right?

[Metalwario64]

I felt Clinkenbeard was fine as the younger Gohan at the start, but later on when Gohan is an adolescent in the Cell Arc, it just wasn't suitable anymore

He was still technically nine/ten so I doubt they needed another VA at that time. I mean, we all know that teen Gohan was a major misnomer, right?

Yeah, he's most definitely hasn't even reached puberty yet, so his voice should be mostly the same. It's also annoying when people still insist on using video game terminology and they refer to him as "Teen Gohan", when that's actually Buu arc Gohan.

I'm going to start calling Trunks wearing Saiyan armor "Trunks (Fighting Teen)" from now on.

[MaxZ]

I felt Clinkenbeard was fine as the younger Gohan at the start, but later on when Gohan is an adolescent in the Cell Arc, it just wasn't suitable anymore

He was still technically nine/ten so I doubt they needed another VA at that time. I mean, we all know that teen Gohan was a major misnomer, right?

unless I'm mistaken, Gohan was 11 when he fought Cell

[Dbzfan94]

I felt Clinkenbeard was fine as the younger Gohan at the start, but later on when Gohan is an adolescent in the Cell Arc, it just wasn't suitable anymore

He was still technically nine/ten so I doubt they needed another VA at that time. I mean, we all know that teen Gohan was a major misnomer, right?

unless I'm mistaken, Gohan was 11 when he fought Cell

11 in the dub/anime. 9 in the manga.