Are the Dub Changes in Kai TFC Dub an Issue?
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Are the Dub Changes in Kai TFC Dub an Issue?
I have seen many Fans Complaining about The Liberties FUNimation is taking in TFC like when Vegeta is hugging Kid Trunks last time before sacrificing he says that he never hugged him since he was a baby because he wanted make him a tough boy or Goku after going ssj3 against Boo and Babidi saying that SSJ3 is his favourite form,etc. I personally don't mind these dub changes but what are your thoughts on it is it much of a bother?
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Re: Are the Dub Changes in Kai TFC Dub an Issue?
There's been afew slang and one liners that I've already taken out of my cut of the Buu saga that I didn't care for. Such as Goku telling Kaioshin that his buddys will have birds building nests on them like garden gnomes and afew of Vegeta saying "laaame" etc.
As for the line about Trunks, I'll take that over the old dub, where Vegeta says the cringey "you made me proud, my son" in some stereotypical circle of life Lion King fashion.
There's definitely been afew instances where the kai buu dub should of simply kept old accurate lines and just delverd them better.
As for the line about Trunks, I'll take that over the old dub, where Vegeta says the cringey "you made me proud, my son" in some stereotypical circle of life Lion King fashion.
There's definitely been afew instances where the kai buu dub should of simply kept old accurate lines and just delverd them better.
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The ones I noticed irked me a little, but not much. They're usually small and not that intrusive, so I can let them slide . The intent of the lines are usually kept at least, which is more than I can say for most of Z's dub changes.
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Does Vegata saying him not hugging trunks as a baby was to make him a Tough boy a big change because in Japanese version he only says he never hugged him as a baby that's it which shows he never cared for it but in TFC Dub they added that line that he wanted to make him a tough boy which is like sugercoatingMR.Mark wrote:There's been afew slang and one liners that I've already taken out of my cut of the Buu saga that I didn't care for. Such as Goku telling Kaioshin that his buddys will have birds building nests on them like garden gnomes and afew of Vegeta saying "laaame" etc.
As for the line about Trunks, I'll take that over the old dub, where Vegeta says the cringey "you made me proud, my son" in some stereotypical circle of life Lion King fashion.
There's definitely been afew instances where the kai buu dub should of simply kept old accurate lines and just delverd them better.
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Re: Are the Dub Changes in Kai TFC Dub an Issue?
I think generally the liberties they take are fine but ones like the "tough boy" line I take issue with because they affect characterization. That dub line takes away the ambiguity present in the original version and creates a facet of Vegeta that Toriyama and the original writers maybe never intended.
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I'm sure I'll find a way to take that line out of my Buu cut anyway.
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I was kind of disappointed with some of those changes, but the majority of the dialogue is better I'd say. I guess I expected less liberties taken when I assume they had more time to work on this dub compared to the cell saga, which they claim was rushed (and it showed). Overall it's a very slight notch below the cell saga dub to me. But again that's because the improvements aren't AS striking from the Z dub in the buu saga compared to the still-crappy cell saga Z dub.
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How is that cringey? I hate that term. It's way too overused to the point where it's sad. Plus it fit the scene fine. Much more than what Kai did with the "to make you a better man"MR.Mark wrote:
As for the line about Trunks, I'll take that over the old dub, where Vegeta says the cringey "you made me proud, my son" in some stereotypical circle of life Lion King fashion..
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I just don't think it's in character, I believe they also made Goku give the "my son" tripe to Gohan before he teleported away with Cell in the old Z dub.
Vegeta telling Trunks to take care of himself before knocking him out is a lot more more effective and subtle in how Vegeta shows affection.
Vegeta telling Trunks to take care of himself before knocking him out is a lot more more effective and subtle in how Vegeta shows affection.
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The only one that bothered me was Vegeta's WRRRROOOOOONNNNG line.
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Yeahhh that line has to go too, I didn't care for it.
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What are you referring to, exactly? Maybe I haven't gotten that far in The Final Chapters yet.OLKv3 wrote:The only one that bothered me was Vegeta's WRRRROOOOOONNNNG line.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeqkSQ8 ... e=youtu.beIAmTheMilkMan wrote:What are you referring to, exactly? Maybe I haven't gotten that far in The Final Chapters yet.OLKv3 wrote:The only one that bothered me was Vegeta's WRRRROOOOOONNNNG line.
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what's up with Chris SabatDHM211 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeqkSQ8 ... e=youtu.beIAmTheMilkMan wrote:What are you referring to, exactly? Maybe I haven't gotten that far in The Final Chapters yet.OLKv3 wrote:The only one that bothered me was Vegeta's WRRRROOOOOONNNNG line.
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Re: Are the Dub Changes in Kai TFC Dub an Issue?
That was hilarious!DHM211 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeqkSQ8 ... e=youtu.beIAmTheMilkMan wrote:What are you referring to, exactly? Maybe I haven't gotten that far in The Final Chapters yet.OLKv3 wrote:The only one that bothered me was Vegeta's WRRRROOOOOONNNNG line.
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I couldn't hear him over how bad the re-framing was in that scene.DHM211 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeqkSQ8 ... e=youtu.beIAmTheMilkMan wrote:What are you referring to, exactly? Maybe I haven't gotten that far in The Final Chapters yet.OLKv3 wrote:The only one that bothered me was Vegeta's WRRRROOOOOONNNNG line.
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Well, Z wasn't shot in widescreen, so they should've made 4:3 masters in the first place.Robo4900 wrote:I couldn't hear him over how bad the re-framing was in that scene.DHM211 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeqkSQ8 ... e=youtu.beIAmTheMilkMan wrote: What are you referring to, exactly? Maybe I haven't gotten that far in The Final Chapters yet.
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wrooooooooooooooongBaggie_Saiyan wrote:That was hilarious!DHM211 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeqkSQ8 ... e=youtu.beIAmTheMilkMan wrote: What are you referring to, exactly? Maybe I haven't gotten that far in The Final Chapters yet.
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Re: Are the Dub Changes in Kai TFC Dub an Issue?
These liberties bother me a bit, because they defeat the purpose of Kai for western audiences. It bugs me when they decide to add in lines like that, only because they think it sounds nicer to hear or funny - rather than staying true enough to let the character development speak for itself regardless. Its even worse when statements are added in that aren't true.Ripper 30 wrote:I have seen many Fans Complaining about The Liberties FUNimation is taking in TFC like when Vegeta is hugging Kid Trunks last time before sacrificing he says that he never hugged him since he was a baby because he wanted make him a tough boy or Goku after going ssj3 against Boo and Babidi saying that SSJ3 is his favourite form,etc. I personally don't mind these dub changes but what are your thoughts on it is it much of a bother?
Like we know Vegeta legitimately did not care at all for Bulma and Trunks because in-character he was still believing himself to be evil in both the Android arc, and in the Babidi arc. For all we know, in-character for Bulma she most likely initiated their encounter. In the Babidi arc he explained that he didn't hug Trunks at all until that moment in remorse for being selfish all his life. Not because he planned to make Trunks tougher from the start. It doesn't make sense for him to say that, not also while knowing Future Trunks was not a coward. It has the same problem as the dub speech Vegeta gave when Trunks died from Cell's death beam. He didn't react in response to Trunks, he reacted still in an ignorant frustration that Cell wouldn't die. As much as I may like that speech or even prefer it, the motivation given (that people cite a lot) is wrong too.
For Goku its a little bit more trivial for me, but it holds the same weight. Ironically the Z dub made it more clear that Goku's SS3 was still hard for him to pull out, but he was confident enough to use it anyway. Him saying it was his "favorite" form doesn't make sense, because he didn't master it - in order to claim that. Its brand new and stressful. there is no mention that he thinks it looked cool - Gotenks at most said it looked weird. It sounds more like an external personal opinion from the writer or director.
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Seriously? I loved that. It was hilarious. I like Vegeta in this dub better than the original Z dub. His lines are funnier.OLKv3 wrote:The only one that bothered me was Vegeta's WRRRROOOOOONNNNG line.
"You all will feel tired, like you've just finished running. BUT I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY OF YOUR COMPLAINTS."
"WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG."
I know we all have opinions, but I loved this. I laughed for a good while because of it.