Dragonballgod19 wrote: Shinda Forever wrote:
pacz360 wrote: No it doesn't goku only stronger than vegeta in kaioken there equal in ssjb not to mention vegeta trained in the HTC so nothing put freeza>vegeta
Vegeta would accomplish the same thing against goku while both are in ssjb
What? It was established since dbz that Goku is better than Vegeta. Get over it. Goku is above Vegeta that is clear as water.
Dragonballgod19 wrote:Wow ok first off this isn't z vegeta trains far better in super and lol at Freeza being stronger than vegeta, and again he trains better in super this is literally shown all the time hell,he went from weaker than base black to godstomping him without trying this isn't z if he was he would have still made no gains yet he did in that arc and goku only stronger than vegeta thanks to kaioken and due to being the main character if he wasn't he would yamcha(imagine if nobody trained goku yeah)
Lol at Frieza being stronger than Vegeta? lol That's why Frieza knocked Goku the fuck out. Vegeta trains so well in super that when they trained together with Whis, Goku was always a step ahead, he had to train during the night to catch up with Goku.
Goku is better than Vegeta in every department. Vegeta was crushed like a bug by Hitto without any understanding of what was going on a single time. Goku is much more talented than Vegeta and that is fact. Finally, i don't know if you have noticed that db heroes gave us the hint that the final 3 warriors are Jiren Goku and Frieza, therefore, in your place i wouldn't have many illusions about Vegeta.
We don't even know how strong vegeta is in blue and he was confident that he could take on hit even though hit nothing anyways goku clearly didn't give a crap about him in the tournament and lol at heroes it was seen that goku and zamasu was the only characters fighting not vegeta and trunks lmao you actually take heroes seriously and again goku the main character if he wasn't he would be yamcha if goku so talented take away all the characters who trained him and see if he can become god tier on his own and can't wait for hit to job to jiren next episode lmao hit didn't even make to the finals lmao
You are very confused. Vegeta was crushed by Hitto like a bug, Hitto barely had to do any effort at all since Vegeta is a pathetic slugger that only understands brute force.
If when Hitto came to the Earth his opponent were Vegeta, he would crush him again in seconds.
Vegeta himself said in the manga and anime, if it is good enough for you, that Goku was much better.
Vegeta was only stronger than Goku in the beginning, because, he trained under gravity while Goku was in the Earth, afterwards, he was smoked every time specially in Namek, where despite taking more beatings, Goku still was a lot stronger than Vegeta. It took Vegeta ages to reach ssj1 and he never achieved ssj 3.
You must be insane, if you think Jiren is going to beat Hitto in the next episode.
Be careful because, Hitto can survive longer than Vegeta and then, i want to know what you are going to say. Frieza is taking Vegeta place, just pay attention.
GodKaio-Ken wrote: Shinda Forever wrote:
Dragonballgod19 wrote:Vegeta surpass goku multiple times in the franchise goku only stronger because kaioken and he's the main character if he wasn't he would be yamcha
What? lol He only surpassed him when he trained first than Goku. Goku was always ahead. Poor Vegeta chump trained two fucking years in the rosat and still Goku with a less than a year was much stronger than Vegeta. Poor Vegeta barely could beat a pathetic Cell jr. . Next, in the majin Buu saga, the cheater decided to accept the majin power up given by Babidi or he would be crushed like a bug again. Nothing changed in super. He was squashed by Hitto while Goku in seconds was able to figure it out what was happening.
pacz360 wrote:I don't care if goku better than vegeta current goku is not above vegeta without kaioken bottom line
Prove to me current goku can stomp vegeta without kaioken if they fought as of now with no kaioken it'll be majin vegeta Vs ssj2 goku all over again
You forgot Majin Vegeta was a power up given by Babidi without it, Vegeta would have been crushed like a bug.
Well even with the power Goku could have gone SSJ3 and ended it. He was fine losing to stroke Vegetas ego to:
1) Not to waste his time remaining.
2) Because he knew he was stronger.
Vegeta does pass Goku for 35 seconds at a time occasionally.