Dbzk1999 wrote:picc wrote:Wasn't a gigantic fan of Vegeta getting that instant boost out of nowhere. But unlike the anime, at least the manga attempts to explain things. His speech took a lot of the sting out of it at worst, and justified it at best.
If the anime had even attempted to explain the bull that happened over and over again, instead of just treating the audience like we were all 3 year olds, it would have been a lot less insulting.
How is this anymore of an explanation than what happened in the anime?
A character getting a last minute power-up due to his emotions is pretty much the standard for anime. Fine, whatever. It's when said character gets said power up, we're told explicitely that he had reach his limits, and then gets ANOTHER power up just so he can get a win is bullshit. It's Super doubling down on the idea that nothing really matters--he'll just break his limitations so we can get a fancy cool fight scene and all the fanboys will be happy. It's lazy storytelling because it's a cheap way to back out of the corner the writers wrote themselves in.
On the whole Roshi thing: I re-read that chapter and I think I get what it's trying to do, as well as the themes of the arc in general. Basically, Roshi's whole speech to Goku is a clapback against the franchises tendency to just rely on power-ups and transformations as a gauge for strength.
Goku: "I DON'T CARE IF THIS WRECKS MY BODY, I NEED PURE POWER"
Roshi: *sigh* "So you're back on your basic fuckboy bullshit, huh?"
And that's all over the place in these last couple of chapters. It's implied that Gohan isn't as strong as Kefla but he's able to hold his own because, in his own words, "I chose to keep evolving as a human." Basically, he's relying on technique than just spamming his God mode Saiyan powers that this franchise has abused mercilessly. So the fact that Goku gains UI (or at least a weaker version of it) not because he's the coldest, wickedest, motherfucker that ever walked the motherfucking earth, but because he actually chooses to listen to his teacher is not only a far more interesting and positive change for Goku--And I love that Goku here does something that he never once does in the anime, which is admits that he was wrong--it's a positive change for the franchise as a whole.
Because the thing I like about the manga, among the many reasons I like the manga more than the anime, is that it focuses on smaller character moments, something that Dragonball used to be about. Not everything needs to go big. The small little smile Kefla and Gohan share before kamikazing each other off the ring is a far better send-off than the Kefla and Goku fight, cool as it was. And my favorite moment of the Super manga by far is Goku and Vegeta standing down hundreds of Zamasus fully prepared to go out with a bang: "Go wild until you die?" A moment that does such a great job of showing just how far these two have come as rivals and friends just in a single panel.
t's these moments that remind me precisely why I like these characters in the first place.
But nah, I guess Toyotaro is a hack cause he referenced a scene from a movie. smh.