Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Postby Grimlock » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:11 am

zarmack wrote:Way to ruin the lore surrounding the Saiyans Nagamine smh.

King Vegeta and a bunch of his follows in Z were actually the first start a rebellion against Freeza before Bardock did. They ruined King Vegeta's character with this change smh. At least SDB Heroes does the character more justice.


Talk about ruination of a character, and to think Bardock could have been ruined like that. Thankfully we have games doing justice indeed. Dark Masked King is awesome by the way.

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Postby Marlowe89 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:50 am

dbzfan7 wrote:How would you like your Gogeta? Yellow, Blue, or Black.


One red, please.

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Is there anything new/interesting here?


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Postby RecolorSaiyan » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:09 am

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1070890625803804672


Herms translated bunch of stuff

It implies "canonizing" characters is something they will do in the future

Gogeta and Vegetto are now "equally powered trump cards"

Broly came back cause he's popular as hell which we knew

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Postby TheOne » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:41 am

I love how people treat Toriyama as if he’s some kind of profit. Yet this man doesn’t even remember one of his most popular characters.


Just further proof that all these inconsistencies that we see in the series can be due to the creator himself not even being familiar with certain aspects of his series. So when people sit here and debate about details concerning the series like power scaling and consistencies from Z to Super, I’m reminded that the one who orchestrates this entire thing isn’t even familiar with certain details he made in the series. Thus, creating a web of craziness and disfunction when Toei writes the series.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Postby Chuquita » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:45 am

RecolorSaiyan wrote:https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1070890625803804672


Herms translated bunch of stuff

It implies "canonizing" characters is something they will do in the future

Gogeta and Vegetto are now "equally powered trump cards"

Broly came back cause he's popular as hell which we knew



As someone who doesn't care much about canonizing things, I wish they'd focus on creating new and interesting antagonists after this instead of just redo all the villains we already have--makes it feel too much like what the videogames did over and over again during the past decade+. :(

That said I like the idea of Gogeta and Vegetto being equals, and I like new!Brolli.
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Postby PFM18 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:46 am

Marlowe89 wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:How would you like your Gogeta? Yellow, Blue, or Black.


One red, please.

Wait, what do you mean you're "sold out"?!


And we won't be getting another shipment for awhile, sorry sir.

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Postby Miracles » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:55 am

JazzMazz wrote:While I 100% agree that a big aspect of any future anime involving DB should be a focus on action(that's part of why the new designs were introduced), I think I would be remiss to mention that its almost impossible for Toriyama to be 100% involved in the script making process for something like a television anime. I also don't really see the manga ever getting far enough ahead to really be a good source to completely bounce off either, however, I still think if a new series from Super were to maintain close contact with Toriyama, while still having a chief writer overseeing and supervising the project beside him, we'd still be able to get something at least coherent in terms of storytelling.

Either way, I think direction is still a big point of notice that I think kind of gets overlooked. I think back on Z, directors like Shigeyasu Yamauchi did absolutely fantastic work in genuinely elaborating on scenes from the manga that were kind of brushed over, and turning them into some of the most striking moments in the anime adaptation of those arcs. I think the most popular example would be in episode 156 of DBZ where Vegeta and Trunks' time in the room of spirit and time was dramatically expanded upon and made into something that effectively conveyed the extreme training that Vegeta and Trunks subjected themselves to.

The way the DBZ anime demonstrated the rigorous emotional trauma of the Room of Spirit and Time for Trunks and Vegeta was a good addition. It's just something extra TOEI could focus on more too with Toriyama and Toyotaro at the helm of writing the story. This is why I think the Anime being on hiatus and doing the Broly movie in it's return already having a platform to go off on, allows the manga to delve into the new arc will also give TOEI another standard to follow which would allow them to focus on action/direction/style and improve their quality immensely.

RecolorSaiyan wrote:https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1070890625803804672


Herms translated bunch of stuff

It implies "canonizing" characters is something they will do in the future

Gogeta and Vegetto are now "equally powered trump cards"

Broly came back cause he's popular as hell which we knew

Good stuff.

Vegetto and Gogeta are equally matched and Super movie is canon.

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Postby Dark_Tzitzimine » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:01 am

RecolorSaiyan wrote:https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1070890625803804672


Herms translated bunch of stuff

It implies "canonizing" characters is something they will do in the future

Gogeta and Vegetto are now "equally powered trump cards"

Broly came back cause he's popular as hell which we knew


SSJ4 here we go.

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Postby Terez » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:52 am

mahakaishin1991 wrote:If there is a female though... there's going to be a lot of doujins...

females are not required for these

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Postby Sora Saiyan » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:06 am

Does this “canon” thing but that debate to bed, or do some people believe it’s still down to the fans? Honestly I’ve been in the camp that Toriyamas continued story (BoG, RoF etc.) is what’s considered “canon”, and it seems Shueshia also believe that.
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Postby Terez » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:37 am

Sora Saiyan wrote:Does this “canon” thing but that debate to bed, or do some people believe it’s still down to the fans? Honestly I’ve been in the camp that Toriyamas continued story (BoG, RoF etc.) is what’s considered “canon”, and it seems Shueshia also believe that.

It's down to the fans either way. There are only a few things that (based on official statements) we can say are "canon" or "not canon". Beyond that point, there's still mass confusion. Like, Super is the "canon" sequel to Toriyama's manga (implying, along with other statements, that GT was not)... but there are 3 separate continuities for Super. Which one is canon? Are they all canon? Do we go with the movies or Toriyama's napkin outline for the anime/manga? There are diverse answers to these questions and therefore we're pretty much back to where we started, really.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Postby mahakaishin1991 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:18 am

Terez wrote:
mahakaishin1991 wrote:If there is a female though... there's going to be a lot of doujins...

females are not required for these


now whose missing the point?

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Postby Terez » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:52 am

Still you.

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Postby Toxin45 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:35 am

Chuquita wrote:
RecolorSaiyan wrote:https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1070890625803804672


Herms translated bunch of stuff

It implies "canonizing" characters is something they will do in the future

Gogeta and Vegetto are now "equally powered trump cards"

Broly came back cause he's popular as hell which we knew



As someone who doesn't care much about canonizing things, I wish they'd focus on creating new and interesting antagonists after this instead of just redo all the villains we already have--makes it feel too much like what the videogames did over and over again during the past decade+. :(

That said I like the idea of Gogeta and Vegetto being equals, and I like new!Brolli.

Don't you remember the galactic prisoner arc we have a new villain dude.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Postby Neo-Makaiōshin » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:58 am

What's the problem with King Vegeta submiting to Cold's rulling? :eh:
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Postby Grimlock » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:50 am

The problem is losing his "original pride" and not trying to defend his race (like Bardock did) when required.

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Postby vashter » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:13 am

Holy shit Gogeta and Vegetto are equal? hmmm that make them higher than beerus but not higher than MUI? that is my opinion

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Postby Jaden » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:13 am

If Vegito and Gogeta are equally matched then shouldn't fused Zamasu be stronger than Broly? Because Vegito in Blue seemed to struggle with Zamasu whereas Gogeta in Blue, according to the synopsis, dominated the fight with Broly

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Postby Chuquita » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:03 am

Toxin45 wrote:
Chuquita wrote:
RecolorSaiyan wrote:https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1070890625803804672


Herms translated bunch of stuff

It implies "canonizing" characters is something they will do in the future

Gogeta and Vegetto are now "equally powered trump cards"

Broly came back cause he's popular as hell which we knew



As someone who doesn't care much about canonizing things, I wish they'd focus on creating new and interesting antagonists after this instead of just redo all the villains we already have--makes it feel too much like what the videogames did over and over again during the past decade+. :(

That said I like the idea of Gogeta and Vegetto being equals, and I like new!Brolli.

Don't you remember the galactic prisoner arc we have a new villain dude.



I didn't forget about him; I'm looking forward to what he brings. The translation just left me uneasy about the topics of future movies.
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Piccolo: So confident...I hope to see your face when Son Gokû arrives...
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