"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Araki]

I'm starting to think no one in this fan base knows what the phrase 'Shoved down our throats' is supposed to mean.

It can go join filler, asspull, and plot hole in the words that lost all meaning category.

I was just about to post the same.
There was a time when "Deus ex machina" was huge, too!

[Michsi]

I'm starting to think no one in this fan base knows what the phrase 'Shoved down our throats' is supposed to mean.

It can go join filler, asspull, and plot hole in the words that lost all meaning category.

I was just about to post the same.
There was a time when "Deus ex machina" was huge, too!

Don't forget Mary Sue/Gary Stu

I don't see it crop up as often as before but there was a time I saw that term thrown a lot at Goku

[Alruneia]

I'm starting to think no one in this fan base knows what the phrase 'Shoved down our throats' is supposed to mean.

It can go join filler, asspull, and plot hole in the words that lost all meaning category.

And sue.

And job. Surprised no one mentioned that one yet.

[Daemul]

It can go join filler, asspull, and plot hole in the words that lost all meaning category.

And sue.

And job. Surprised no one mentioned that one yet.

Yep, that one especially. People in this fanbase clearly have no idea what jobbing is.

Also, the word fodder needs to join the category as well.

[Lord Beerus]

I'm starting to think no one in this fan base knows what the phrase 'Shoved down our throats' is supposed to mean.

It can go join filler, asspull, and plot hole in the words that lost all meaning category.

I was just about to post the same.
There was a time when "Deus ex machina" was huge, too!

You can throw in "retcon" as well. That word has lost nearly all its substance with how much it's casually thrown around.

[Hawk9211]

It can go join filler, asspull, and plot hole in the words that lost all meaning category.

I was just about to post the same.
There was a time when "Deus ex machina" was huge, too!

You can throw in "retcon" as well. That word has lost nearly all its substance with how much it's casually thrown around.

What about stakes in dbz?

[ChronoTwigger]

I was just about to post the same.
There was a time when "Deus ex machina" was huge, too!

You can throw in "retcon" as well. That word has lost nearly all its substance with how much it's casually thrown around.

What about stakes in dbz?

T E N S I O N

[VegettoEX]

Let's bring it back around without a laundry list of semantic discussion, please and thank you!

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I actually wouldn't mind if Vegeta got knocked out by Frost redirecting the Mafuba and sealed him, it's much more interesting then Vegeta getting KO the normal way, it would suck to see Vegeta go out just before the climax but I would be able to live with it that way. Of course big issue for Frost is he doesn't have a seal...

[HeroR]

I actually wouldn't mind if Vegeta got knocked out by Frost redirecting the Mafuba and sealed him, it's much more interesting then Vegeta getting KO the normal way, it would suck to see Vegeta go out just before the climax but I would be able to live with it that way. Of course big issue for Frost is he doesn't have a seal...

I still say Vegeta gets trap, the bottle gets lost somehow, and Vegeta is one of the people counted in the end since he's still technically in the ring.

[Jigurashi]

I actually wouldn't mind if Vegeta got knocked out by Frost redirecting the Mafuba and sealed him, it's much more interesting then Vegeta getting KO the normal way, it would suck to see Vegeta go out just before the climax but I would be able to live with it that way. Of course big issue for Frost is he doesn't have a seal...

I still say Vegeta gets trap, the bottle gets lost somehow, and Vegeta is one of the people counted in the end since he's still technically in the ring.

That would definitely be a very Toriyama thing to do. Veggie fans can rejoic Vegeta goes the distance.

[The Saiyan Royal]

I actually wouldn't mind if Vegeta got knocked out by Frost redirecting the Mafuba and sealed him, it's much more interesting then Vegeta getting KO the normal way, it would suck to see Vegeta go out just before the climax but I would be able to live with it that way. Of course big issue for Frost is he doesn't have a seal...

I still say Vegeta gets trap, the bottle gets lost somehow, and Vegeta is one of the people counted in the end since he's still technically in the ring.

Unless Frost have the seal I don't see why Vegeta could'nt escape the same way zamasu did.

[HeroR]

I actually wouldn't mind if Vegeta got knocked out by Frost redirecting the Mafuba and sealed him, it's much more interesting then Vegeta getting KO the normal way, it would suck to see Vegeta go out just before the climax but I would be able to live with it that way. Of course big issue for Frost is he doesn't have a seal...

I still say Vegeta gets trap, the bottle gets lost somehow, and Vegeta is one of the people counted in the end since he's still technically in the ring.

Unless Frost have the seal I don't see why Vegeta could'nt escape the same way zamasu did.

The seal is written directly on the bottle.

[Kinokima]

I actually wouldn't mind if Vegeta got knocked out by Frost redirecting the Mafuba and sealed him, it's much more interesting then Vegeta getting KO the normal way, it would suck to see Vegeta go out just before the climax but I would be able to live with it that way. Of course big issue for Frost is he doesn't have a seal...

I still say Vegeta gets trap, the bottle gets lost somehow, and Vegeta is one of the people counted in the end since he's still technically in the ring.

Unless Frost have the seal I don't see why Vegeta could'nt escape the same way zamasu did.

Though I think Vegeta being trapped without the seal would be entirely pointless since everyone knows he can just escape from that. There is no drama there. Maybe Roshi seals it quickly without realizing what is happening or Frost does manage to get the seal and Jar away from Master Roshi to actually seal Vegeta away.

Anyways while I don't want Vegeta knocked out of the story so early if it is the case where he is able to escape from the sealed Mafuba that would be pretty cool. I may forgive them for that.


Edit: Or as the above says the seal is written directly on the jar. Actually that makes a lot of sense.

[sintzu]

Unless Frost have the seal I don't see why Vegeta could'nt escape the same way zamasu did.

Frost wouldn't know about that so he could think he's done only for him to break out and kick his sorry behind.

Or the writers will forget a seal is needed and just leave Vegeta in there.

[Totamo]

I actually wouldn't mind if Vegeta got knocked out by Frost redirecting the Mafuba and sealed him, it's much more interesting then Vegeta getting KO the normal way, it would suck to see Vegeta go out just before the climax but I would be able to live with it that way. Of course big issue for Frost is he doesn't have a seal...

I still say Vegeta gets trap, the bottle gets lost somehow, and Vegeta is one of the people counted in the end since he's still technically in the ring.

That would definitely be a very Toriyama thing to do. Veggie fans can rejoic Vegeta goes the distance.

You know they wouldn't accept that.


If they did, they would know Vegeta has more wins in super than Goku.

[The Saiyan Royal]

Unless Frost have the seal I don't see why Vegeta could'nt escape the same way zamasu did.

Frost wouldn't know about that so he could think he's done only for him to break out and kick his sorry behind.

Agree. I think this is exactly what will happen.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Unless Frost have the seal I don't see why Vegeta could'nt escape the same way zamasu did.

Frost wouldn't know about that so he could think he's done only for him to break out and kick his sorry behind.

Or the writers will forget a seal is needed and just leave Vegeta in there.

Considering they just showed Roshi sealing the Mafuba in the episode before last, they aren't gonna magically forget how the Mafuba works. I think the lack of seal is what the summaries meant when "Frost seemed to have trapped Vegeta but...".

[Whatever]

Unless Frost have the seal I don't see why Vegeta could'nt escape the same way zamasu did.

Frost wouldn't know about that so he could think he's done only for him to break out and kick his sorry behind.

Or the writers will forget a seal is needed and just leave Vegeta in there.

The seal is on the bottle,we saw that on the Roshi episode,seriously the people that say Toei/Toriyama forgot are the ones who forget something after they saw it.

[Kanassa]

Unless Frost have the seal I don't see why Vegeta could'nt escape the same way zamasu did.

Frost wouldn't know about that so he could think he's done only for him to break out and kick his sorry behind.

Or the writers will forget a seal is needed and just leave Vegeta in there.

Considering they just showed Roshi sealing the Mafuba in the episode before last, they aren't gonna magically forget how the Mafuba works. I think the lack of seal is what the summaries meant when "Frost seemed to have trapped Vegeta but...".

Considering that Frost is REDIRECTING Roshi's mafuuba, Roshi orbably already has another bottle out with the seal on it.