You mean him heating rocks and making a smoke scene. Clever, but not creative. Or do you mean something else?namekiansaiyan wrote:You need to go watch the episode again then.HeroR wrote:What ability he used in a creative way? His way of hiding was going under a rock.Michsi wrote:
Doesn't matter, we got to see him think and strategize, and make use of his abilities in new and creative ways. He managed to find a way to hide from Prum- or whatever his name was- twice and it was only because of something unexpected that he was forced to back down. I'm fan of powerful and cool moves, but I love characters that strategize and are seen to think things through just as much.
102 is a bit tricky since I don't remember the details that well , but I think I remember him intentionally luring his opponent away.
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Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
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Yes that.HeroR wrote:You mean him heating rocks and making a smoke scene. Clever, but not creative. Or do you mean something else?namekiansaiyan wrote:You need to go watch the episode again then.HeroR wrote:
What ability he used in a creative way? His way of hiding was going under a rock.
I think the majority of us don't realise how dangerous Hermila's attacks actually were and that Piccolo did well in keeping both him and Gohan still in the tournament until Tien came along and finished Hermila. It actually represented what this Battle Royale should be.
Tien actually took out someone that could do real damage due to the kind of attack that was used and because he didn't survive along with Piccolo's arms everyone forgets about Hermila's attack.
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My favorite thing was how he used his extended arm ability to gauge an attack out of Prum to figure out his location without giving away their's. And yes, later how he figured out they could be tracked using body heat and came up with the idea of heating up the rocks around them to mask their presence.HeroR wrote:You mean him heating rocks and making a smoke scene. Clever, but not creative. Or do you mean something else?namekiansaiyan wrote:You need to go watch the episode again then.HeroR wrote:
What ability he used in a creative way? His way of hiding was going under a rock.
Most couldn't get past the meat shield bit-which really was a bad move story wise- but other than that, the episode treated him pretty well considering he wasn't supposed to be the highlight.
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I wonder if Goku will use SSJ God another time before attaining UI again.
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Ugh if true.Noah wrote:Ultra Instinct Vegeta? I can't believe it!Lupin879 wrote:I do not know if is not true but
[spoiler][/spoiler]
The lack of creativity in giving different things to different characters is sort of disturbing. I know this happens in plenty other Shonen but none so obvious as Dragon Ball. C`mon, surprise me Toryama/Toei!
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I was joking, mateOlympian wrote:The lack of creativity in giving different things to different characters is sort of disturbing. I know this happens in plenty other Shonen but none so obvious as Dragon Ball. C`mon, surprise me Toryama/Toei!
But what would be your defintion of "surprise"? UI Krillin? lol
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Everyone remaining in the stage gets UI expect from Vegeta.Noah wrote:I was joking, mateOlympian wrote:The lack of creativity in giving different things to different characters is sort of disturbing. I know this happens in plenty other Shonen but none so obvious as Dragon Ball. C`mon, surprise me Toryama/Toei!
But what would be your defintion of "surprise"? UI Krillin? lol
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Jiren pulls a Goku and steals it just by looking at GokuWhatever wrote:Everyone remaining in the stage gets UI expect from Vegeta.Noah wrote:I was joking, mateOlympian wrote:The lack of creativity in giving different things to different characters is sort of disturbing. I know this happens in plenty other Shonen but none so obvious as Dragon Ball. C`mon, surprise me Toryama/Toei!
But what would be your defintion of "surprise"? UI Krillin? lol
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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Ultra instinct and God ki are okay with me . Ultra instinct is a technique, and God ki is just the next level that anyone can aquire. It would be cool if they got different super Saiyan forms though.Olympian wrote:Ugh if true.Noah wrote:Ultra Instinct Vegeta? I can't believe it!Lupin879 wrote:I do not know if is not true but
[spoiler][/spoiler]
The lack of creativity in giving different things to different characters is sort of disturbing. I know this happens in plenty other Shonen but none so obvious as Dragon Ball. C`mon, surprise me Toryama/Toei!
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I guess you missed the part where people said it was from an old fake. Not only does the scan not mention Ultra Instinct, the episode dates are clearly seen and are April and May, showing how old this fake is.Olympian wrote:Ugh if true.Noah wrote:Ultra Instinct Vegeta? I can't believe it!Lupin879 wrote:I do not know if is not true but
[spoiler][/spoiler]
The lack of creativity in giving different things to different characters is sort of disturbing. I know this happens in plenty other Shonen but none so obvious as Dragon Ball. C`mon, surprise me Toryama/Toei!
Also Vegeta will get UI, at least eventually, it's the thing that Whis has been trying to teach both Goku and Vegeta since F, before Super was even a thing, it's not some Goku exclusive thing, it's a top tier technique. It's not even a Saiyan thing, which is the most exciting thing to me.
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Yes I missed it, thanks for the confirmation.ArchedThunder wrote:I guess you missed the part where people said it was from an old fake. Not only does the scan not mention Ultra Instinct, the episode dates are clearly seen and are April and May, showing how old this fake is.Olympian wrote:Ugh if true.Noah wrote:
Ultra Instinct Vegeta? I can't believe it!
The lack of creativity in giving different things to different characters is sort of disturbing. I know this happens in plenty other Shonen but none so obvious as Dragon Ball. C`mon, surprise me Toryama/Toei!
Also Vegeta will get UI, at least eventually, it's the thing that Whis has been trying to teach both Goku and Vegeta since F, before Super was even a thing, it's not some Goku exclusive thing, it's a top tier technique. It's not even a Saiyan thing, which is the most exciting thing to me.
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Vegeta attaining UI by the end of the tournament makes sense because that means the Potara would be used to get UI Vegito.
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I would just like to see clear diversity within the main cast instead of everyone following the same pattern. This is 2017. Give Vegeta something that doesn`t just look with what Goku got.kinisking wrote:Ultra instinct and God ki are okay with me . Ultra instinct is a technique, and God ki is just the next level that anyone can aquire. It would be cool if they got different super Saiyan forms though.Olympian wrote:Ugh if true.Noah wrote:
Ultra Instinct Vegeta? I can't believe it!
The lack of creativity in giving different things to different characters is sort of disturbing. I know this happens in plenty other Shonen but none so obvious as Dragon Ball. C`mon, surprise me Toryama/Toei!
Ki Breaker wrote:
Yamcha + Roshi = Yamoshi
Coincidence? I think not
Yamcha + Roshi = Yamoshi
Coincidence? I think not
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Even tho the info is fake. I agree. Vegeta should have something else.Olympian wrote:Ugh if true.Noah wrote:Ultra Instinct Vegeta? I can't believe it!Lupin879 wrote:I do not know if is not true but
[spoiler][/spoiler]
The lack of creativity in giving different things to different characters is sort of disturbing. I know this happens in plenty other Shonen but none so obvious as Dragon Ball. C`mon, surprise me Toryama/Toei!
Maybe Mastered Super Saiyan Blue from the manga.
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I'm thinking a new series (with new name) debuting directly after Super is granted, but not just yet. Based on all the interviews, it seems that they're not wrapping up Super era (up to the EOZ point) at the end of TOP arc, nor are they even ready for it writing-wise so I'm thinking another ~50 episodes with new opening before a massive change of any sort (like going past EOZ or even doing something completly different, like Time Patrol Trunks series, or 1000-years-after series)perucho1990 wrote:But tbh I always believed that Toriyama made Mai relevant was his way of saying "Hey DBE I can make Mai a better character than your crappy movie".
In 2 weeks we get the next batch of spoilers and 1 more week after, Jump Festa info.
What can we get? A sequel to DBS? Planet Sadala Arc? OVAs/Specials?
Although there's also the possibility that they will simply reanimate EOZ and include it as part of Super (same as they did with movies) and then continue the series under current brand as if going past the original manga endind was no big deal at all. But that would be the case only if the marketing departement was really pushing to keep the already established Super tag
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But it really makes no sense to give Vegeta an inferior form, especially since he has been training for UI just like Goku, just to be 'different'.Miracles wrote:Even tho the info is fake. I agree. Vegeta should have something else.Olympian wrote:Ugh if true.Noah wrote:
Ultra Instinct Vegeta? I can't believe it!
The lack of creativity in giving different things to different characters is sort of disturbing. I know this happens in plenty other Shonen but none so obvious as Dragon Ball. C`mon, surprise me Toryama/Toei!
Maybe Mastered Super Saiyan Blue from the manga.
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
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I was under the impression that finally utilizing all of god's power constantly would make one the strongest.HeroR wrote:But it really makes no sense to give Vegeta an inferior form, especially since he has been training for UI just like Goku, just to be 'different'.Miracles wrote:Even tho the info is fake. I agree. Vegeta should have something else.Olympian wrote:
Ugh if true.
The lack of creativity in giving different things to different characters is sort of disturbing. I know this happens in plenty other Shonen but none so obvious as Dragon Ball. C`mon, surprise me Toryama/Toei!
Maybe Mastered Super Saiyan Blue from the manga.
Considering Goku was able to battle a fused immortal equally.
Well never mind.
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Vegeta at best, going how Mastered Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan works in the manga, would be par with Blue Kaioken. Which multiplier is debatable. Even if we say that Mastered Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan surpassed Blue Kaioken x20, that still would be severely below UI.Miracles wrote: I was under the impression that finally utilizing all of god's power constantly would make one the strongest.
Considering Goku was able to battle a fused immortal equally.
Well never mind.
Overall, Vegeta trained for UI just like Goku, so it makes no sense for Vegeta to work towards an inferior form, especially if it's only for the sake of being unique. That only really works if Vegeta finds a form equal to UI, while also being unique to him, like what Rage was Trunks.
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Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
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I see.HeroR wrote:Vegeta at best, going how Mastered Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan works in the manga, would be par with Blue Kaioken. Which multiplier is debatable. Even if we saw that Mastered Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan surpassed Blue Kaioken x20, that still would be severely below UI.Miracles wrote: I was under the impression that finally utilizing all of god's power constantly would make one the strongest.
Considering Goku was able to battle a fused immortal equally.
Well never mind.
Overall, Vegeta trained for UI just like Goku, so it makes no sense for Vegeta to work towards an inferior form, especially if it's only for the sake of being unique. That only really works if Vegeta finds a form equal to UI, while also being unique to him, like of like what Rage was Trunks.
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what does say? can you translate all please?Noah wrote:Ultra Instinct Vegeta? I can't believe it!Lupin879 wrote:I do not know if is not true but
[spoiler][/spoiler]