I just thought of it simply as the past Kaioshin were just very strong. Especially South Kaioshin who at least in filler, took on Kid Boo and did better than SSJ2 Gohan woulda done. I keep that in mind as to why Kibito thought there was no way Gohan could do it. Hell Kaioshin coulda just had Goku do it then if it was all about strength. He was the strongest among them, and yet he took Gohan instead. Also in SB2 they go more into it as only Gohan could pull out the sword. F. Gohan specifically in the future world could only pull it out. As if only someone with great potential could do it. It's not concrete, but it adds more to the vagueness of the whole Z Sword things.Captain Space wrote:Kaioshin during the scene tells Kibito that because he wasn't there on Babidi's ship (being dead and all) he didn't see the power of the saiyans, so Kibito is assuming Gohan, a mortal, can't be nearly as powerful as the gods' gods' gods' gods. Evidently Kibito somehow failed to realise how powerful they were when Gohan went SSJ2 at the Budokai (and so did Kaioshin since he continued to underestimate them until he saw them in action on the ship and in the battles immediately afterwards, when Kibito wasn't present). I don't know why this is, but that's the clear implication I got. I dunno, Kaioshin and Kibito are pretty bad at...well everything.dbzfan7 wrote:
If so then why are they so doubtful about him if none of the Kaioshin, especially South Kaioshin couldn't pull out the sword. A whole deal is made especially by Kibito about how if none of the Kaioshin could do it than Gohan can't. If there all so clearly weaker than Gohan, then why is he keep going on about how Gohan can't do it? He saw SSJ2 which massively dwarfs his master, and yet is so sure Gohan can't do what the Kaioshin of old couldn't. I don't really count games since they don't take part in the series, but they had in SB2 that only F. Gohan could pull out the Z Sword of the future timeline.
Like, I agree that potential would make more sense, but that's never mentioned or implied. Kibito is all like, he can't possibly be strong enough! Kaioshin says, (Viz translation so accuracy may not be 100% but serviceable enough), "While you were dead you could not see...how incredibly powerful Gohan is." Gohan can't do it in base, then turns SSJ, which increases his power, and that enables him to pull out the sword. Everything in the scene is pointing towards the only requirement being that you're hella strong.
The fact that they should've already seen and acknowledged the power of his SSJ2 is...a really weird plothole I guess.
Yeah the whole thing about underestimating them is screwy.
