Sani007 wrote:
As I know, they didn't finish the series because they wanted to improve the animation.
Previously, these were the main explanations: "just a hiatus because of the movie", "they wanted to improve the animation", "a movie and a series would be too much for Toei at one time". These are just dreams. They dropped the TV series for another franchise.
If you don't want to call it 'cancel', I have no problem with it.
DB made nearly twice as much as One Piece for Toei in Japan for the first 9 months of the fiscal year (April-December) and did a total of 11,003 million yen, that's more than the 9,288 million it make for them in the last full fiscal year. Dragon Ball is a monster.
Yeah,they dropped their most profitable ip,makes sense.
I know that's all and that's exactly why crazy is what Toei did. "Just an anniversary Kitaro series", fine. So why doesn't the less successful One Piece go to hiatus, when everyone says that One Piece is horrible slow pace.
If they aren't drop it, please tell me where can I watch it from April.
You do realize that these decisions are not made on whims.If they are putting their most successful ip on hiatus or just ending it,it means there is some good enough reason for them.Such things are planned for years in advance.Like the next movie's art style is being planned for at least one year.
@Michsi
I really doubt that it would cost significantly more than an average long running series.
Why power levels are important?
Spoiler:
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Between 200,000 -300,000$ is what we assume the industry average is, (ANN info) and we don't know if it's any different for long running series, though I don't know why it would be. Ajay mentioned it might be even more for DBS because they employ more people to help with the messy schedule and deliver episodes on time. There aren't many long running series after all. Aside from those old ones like Sazae-san and Detective Conan, Naruto/Boruto and OP are the only long running series I can think of.
Xeogran wrote:New kind of Freeza = Omni King Freeza, I wish
Me too! "Good guy" Freeza is my ass, hope that don't be the case.
Power levels are not just big numbers:
Spoiler:
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Chuquita wrote:Imagine an Omni King with Freeza's face, but an Omni King body.
I've seen fan art of that once before. I kind of hope it comes true.
I'm cold on the idea of good guy Freeza though; he's one villain I want to stay a villain.
Judging by the interview from the cast, I think his VA revealed some very key info regarding your last sentence. :]
Just read Nakao's comments and breathed a sigh of relief. I agree with him, I'm also looking forward to seeing Freeza create more evil schemes in the future stories.
Michsi wrote:Between 200,000 -300,000$ is what we assume the industry average is, (ANN info) and we don't know if it's any different for long running series, though I don't know why it would be. Ajay mentioned it might be even more for DBS because they employ more people to help with the messy schedule and deliver episodes on time. There aren't many long running series after all. Aside from those old ones like Sazae-san and Detective Conan, Naruto/Boruto and OP are the only long running series I can think of.
Correct, from everything I read DB's costs appeared to be substantially higher than average thanks to a grueling schedule among other factors.
We also saw that Toei most profitable segments particularly for DB appear to be movies which has taken a substantial hit.
Either way the constant bringing up fiscal records for justification of anything makes no sense when these were the same stats people were throwing around as proof positive that Super wasn't ending anytime soon.
I have a feeling those two images are connected, probably a team attack against Jiren from both directions. Which may, or may not be the final attack.[/spoiler]
Wasn't Goku almost death because the harm of MUI? Man, the stamina loss in this arc is a running joke
Just coincidence? lol
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Power levels are not just big numbers:
Spoiler:
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Wasn't Goku almost death because the harm of MUI? Man, the stamina loss in this arc is a running joke
Just coincidence? lol
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Lol. Your comment actually cracked me up xD
Yeah it makes no sense for Goku to even be able to move, let alone fight. Yet the fact that he is in Base Form and can’t take on any more transformations is what makes up for it.
I’ve said this before but it’s only recently become especially apparent that there hasn’t been much tension for this arc as it nears its end. We’re entering the final episode and U7 still has three fighters left, whereas U11 only has Jiren. I just don’t really get the impression that the protagonists are in a particularly desperate situation at this point. Maybe this will change going into the episode 131, but U11 kind of seems like the underdog right now.
I agree, IMO they ruined the tension by having Android 17 and Freeza on the ring and Goku being able to fight again.
Power levels are not just big numbers:
Spoiler:
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
jeffbr92 wrote:I agree, IMO they ruined the tension by having Android 17 and Freeza on the ring and Goku being able to fight again.
You're forgetting that 17, Golden Frieza and especially base Goku are far below suppressed Jiren in power. Jiren can also still move around with no problems after that beating he got from UI Goku in ep.130. So its not like U7 has an easy win in this situation.
kn83 wrote:You're forgetting that 17, Golden Frieza and especially base Goku are far below suppressed Jiren in power. Jiren can also still move around with no problems after that beating he got from UI Goku in ep.130. So its not like U7 has an easy win in this situation.
But, that's thinking with logic man, that Jiren still has power enough to destroy them, but I'm sure they will nerf him to the point U7 remaining fighters might cause some trouble leading to his defeat.
Power levels are not just big numbers:
Spoiler:
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
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