"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Jack Bz]

Why would Goku even care about getting to fight a Moro that isn't using his proper powers?

[AnimeNation101]

I'm not ready to buy into that, but if it is true, then hopefully people will also remember Toyotaro is not the only one behind the Manga. Toriyama is too, and approving it so. Not to mention his outlines as well. They'd both be to blame. But I have faith they wouldn't do Goku that badly.

That’s IF Toriyama gave outlines this time or if this a a complete joint effort between the 2 or even a Toyo original with Toriyama acting as an editor.

[Michsi]

Is there a break this month? I just looked in Manga Plus and it says that the new chapter will be out March 19.

[Sora Saiyan]

I'm not ready to buy into that, but if it is true, then hopefully people will also remember Toyotaro is not the only one behind the Manga. Toriyama is too, and approving it so. Not to mention his outlines as well. They'd both be to blame. But I have faith they wouldn't do Goku that badly.

Yeah, that's one reason why I'm not buying this. We know that Toriyama is involved in this, and would he let Gokus character be butchered that bad? I know the anime ToP pissed me off when Goku was acting like a dick about the ToP to the other universes but this would take the cake.

If this is true I wouldn't know what to say, especially when we know that Toyo stated that's he's "teaming up with Toriyama, and getting a lot of praise". Seems like Toriyama is putting his own ideas in and checking things over judging by what Toyo said.

[Bullza]

I hope it rebounds in the next chapter because it had an interesting start but the last chapter seemed like something a fan would have wrote. The kind of thing that I'd expect from Toybles Dragon Ball AF.

New villain gets introduced and before you know it they're already fighting him. It was never like that with Dragon Ball Z. It took a while before the main fights started, they werent just immediately thrown together.

[Shaddy]

I mean, Cell showed up and Piccolo fought him almost instantly, but in that case there was actually good presentation and Cell's entire existence was full of intrigue and mystery, from his design to his demeanor, in a way that Moro literally can't be because they've already explained him away as "that evil wizard who we fought years ago or whatever".

[PFM18]

Someone in 4chan posted a possible spoiler from next cap.

Spoiler:

First chapter leaks are out


>Moro fights both Goku and Vegeta in this chapter
>Moro first fights Vegeta (who turns SSB in the first page, right before the battle begins). He uses his magic to toy with Vegeta's mind, who sees his body melting. While Vegeta's mind is distracted (seemingly disconnected from his body, since he doesn't feel anything), Moro just slowly walks towards Vegeta and knocks him out with a single punch
>Goku is next, but Moro increases Goku's mass, making him increadibly heavy and unable to move from the ground. Moro knocks him out with a single chop to the neck
>Moro forces Muuri to bring out Porunga
>Firstly, Moro wishes for youth. He's only slightly more muscular, he still seems skinny and becoming young again
>After his first wish, Moro absorbs the dragon balls' magic, rendering them unusable and increasing his magic power
>Moro allows Raspberry (he still doesn't have a name in the manga) to leave in his ship, but warns him that he will eat all the living energy of the universe. Moro does thank his help and tells him he'll be the last to die
>Goku manages to wake up, he's no longer heavy
>Goku seems excited about Moro's power
>Goku thinks that, if Moro managed to become so strong by absorbing Porunga's power, then he might be even stronger if he absorbs the power of the other dragons
>Goku makes an offer to Moro. He will gather the earth's dragon balls and the super dragon balls so that Moro can kill the dragons and absorb their power, but in return Moro must fight him again without any mind tricks
>Moro accepts. We then get a single panel where Whis seems to have a bad feeling, apparently he's aware of what's happening

http://boards.4channel.org/a//thread/18 ... ks-are-out

Holy fuck that is awful

No way that's real. It seems so damn insane.

And how would EoZ work if all the dragons are gone?

[emperior]

Why do people even post these incredibly stupid leaks from 4chan here?

[Kanassa]

Why do people even post these incredibly stupid leaks from 4chan here?

Because it's fun to read through just how dumb they sound and see how many people actually believe them?

[dbzfan7]

I'm not ready to buy into that, but if it is true, then hopefully people will also remember Toyotaro is not the only one behind the Manga. Toriyama is too, and approving it so. Not to mention his outlines as well. They'd both be to blame. But I have faith they wouldn't do Goku that badly.

That’s IF Toriyama gave outlines this time or if this a a complete joint effort between the 2 or even a Toyo original with Toriyama acting as an editor.

We know he is, because Toyotaro says Toriyama always looks over his stuff. Either way he approves everything of Toyo so we have to put the blame to both of them.

I'm not ready to buy into that, but if it is true, then hopefully people will also remember Toyotaro is not the only one behind the Manga. Toriyama is too, and approving it so. Not to mention his outlines as well. They'd both be to blame. But I have faith they wouldn't do Goku that badly.

Yeah, that's one reason why I'm not buying this. We know that Toriyama is involved in this, and would he let Gokus character be butchered that bad? I know the anime ToP pissed me off when Goku was acting like a dick about the ToP to the other universes but this would take the cake.

If this is true I wouldn't know what to say, especially when we know that Toyo stated that's he's "teaming up with Toriyama, and getting a lot of praise". Seems like Toriyama is putting his own ideas in and checking things over judging by what Toyo said.

I don't think it is, but this isn't like toei and GT or the OG Movies. Toriyama is involved and approves or corrects things according to the interviews. So if there's something bad, we don't know who's idea it may originally be, but we do know he at least approved it.

[MKCSTEALTH]

Someone in 4chan posted a possible spoiler from next cap.

Spoiler:

First chapter leaks are out


>Moro fights both Goku and Vegeta in this chapter
>Moro first fights Vegeta (who turns SSB in the first page, right before the battle begins). He uses his magic to toy with Vegeta's mind, who sees his body melting. While Vegeta's mind is distracted (seemingly disconnected from his body, since he doesn't feel anything), Moro just slowly walks towards Vegeta and knocks him out with a single punch
>Goku is next, but Moro increases Goku's mass, making him increadibly heavy and unable to move from the ground. Moro knocks him out with a single chop to the neck
>Moro forces Muuri to bring out Porunga
>Firstly, Moro wishes for youth. He's only slightly more muscular, he still seems skinny and becoming young again
>After his first wish, Moro absorbs the dragon balls' magic, rendering them unusable and increasing his magic power
>Moro allows Raspberry (he still doesn't have a name in the manga) to leave in his ship, but warns him that he will eat all the living energy of the universe. Moro does thank his help and tells him he'll be the last to die
>Goku manages to wake up, he's no longer heavy
>Goku seems excited about Moro's power
>Goku thinks that, if Moro managed to become so strong by absorbing Porunga's power, then he might be even stronger if he absorbs the power of the other dragons
>Goku makes an offer to Moro. He will gather the earth's dragon balls and the super dragon balls so that Moro can kill the dragons and absorb their power, but in return Moro must fight him again without any mind tricks
>Moro accepts. We then get a single panel where Whis seems to have a bad feeling, apparently he's aware of what's happening

http://boards.4channel.org/a//thread/18 ... ks-are-out

There's no way in Popo's name that can be real. Goku is reckless, but he isn't THAT reckless. I do like the idea of Moro harnessing power from the Dragonballs. Has a Shadow Dragon vibe that I like. But that's about it. Hopefully nothing near this happens

[RecolorSaiyan]

Please tell me you guys don't seriously believe 4chan leaks?

These guys started posting fake shit about goku letting moro absorb people's life energy 2 days ago. EVERY SINGLE MONTH they make up fake leaks, when the ToP first started in manga, they made up leaks saying Hit eliminated Gohan from the jump and Dyspo took out Caulifla and Kale. Every month they make up fake stuff, then people overreact

[Dbzfan94]

Those leaks are too stupid to be real, but at the same time I legit wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out to be true.

[Xeogran]

In any case we don't have any photo evidence. Still, I'll be honest. It would be quite a packed chapter if real.

[AnimeNation101]

I hope it rebounds in the next chapter because it had an interesting start but the last chapter seemed like something a fan would have wrote. The kind of thing that I'd expect from Toybles Dragon Ball AF.

New villain gets introduced and before you know it they're already fighting him. It was never like that with Dragon Ball Z. It took a while before the main fights started, they werent just immediately thrown together.

Well, to be fair, unlike the other antagonists, Moro has no henchmen or “sub-antagonists” like what the Androids were compared to Cell.

[jplaya2023]

Yeah I'm stickin' with this guy.


Goku offering to let Moro kill the dragons just for a fight is literally the meme of Goku's personality rather than what it actually is.

still this is really extreme, i hope the chapter clears some of this up. Goku sacrificing the entire universe (after what happened in the TOP) would be even idiotic for goku

[TheRed259]

I hope this isn't true.

Shenron has helped Goku through out the series a lot. That's not how you say thanks. Besides, Shenron is the ''Dragon Ball'' franchise after all.

Once again, I hope this isn't true.

[PFM18]

Okay, these leaks are definitely fake right? They are from 4chan, which is a less than reputable source.

With that being said, Goku doing this really isn't any different from Vegeta letting Cell absorb 18 or Goku/friends allowing Gero to build the androids that were prophesied to murder all of them.

[Kanassa]

Okay, these leaks are definitely fake right? They are from 4chan, which is a less than reputable source.

With that being said, Goku doing this really isn't any different from Vegeta letting Cell absorb 18 or Goku/friends allowing Gero to build the androids that were prophesied to murder all of them.

4Chan is a decent source in terms of getting good info (We have had true leaks from 4chan before), but they're also trolls, so (Discounting the obvious 'These are too dumb to be real') they're very likly to be fake.

Though I've seen a second set of leaks on 4chan that sound similar, but without the dumber elements.

[GodVegetto91]

Why would Goku even care about getting to fight a Moro that isn't using his proper powers?

To test him out? That’s what Goku always does when he first meets someone new. How is it even possible to ask this question?