OLKv3 wrote:Copy Vegeta one shotting SS3 Gotenks
That one wasn't a problem for me. Enraged Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta was stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks (well at least in the manga) and after Whis' training Base Vegeta was meant to be strong enough that Goku said he didn't recognise him at first so that was alright to me.
Base Black being so strong makes sense if we're using RoF Goku, but apparently Goku needs SS2 to keep up? Then he gets so strong he can tank hits from SSB Vegeta. So do we assume the RoF power is retconned or not? Because the previous arc had them needing SS to handle Frost, but we know Frost is weaker than Freeza.
Yeah this one is a bit odd. You'd think when Zamasu first took Goku's body and became Black that he would be just as strong as Goku. By the time he was introduced he was supposedly a little stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku so between those two points he somehow got hundreds of times stronger.
Considering he seemed to be getting zenkai boosts you'd think that was the cause but who would have given him the zenkai boosts prior to his introduction?
Everything Trunks before his rage powerup
The manga was fine for this one but the anime would be a bit hard to swallow. If he's about as strong as Goku then would his Base form be able to tank Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks? How would he have possibly got that strong?
Everything surrounding the final battle with Merged Zamasu
The only thing I was confused about there is that Goku could hold his own against him but it seemed like Black was even stronger than him and his power should have multiplied many times over when fusing.
Goku Black and his magical powerups
I think the manga cleared that one up with it being zenkai boosts. Definitely not the same as it was back on Namek but I'll take that explanation anyway.
Manga wise: The whole SS Vegeta> SS Black> Base Black > SS2 Trunks = SS3 Goku
At the time people theorised that the Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta that fought Black had the same power that he had back when snapped against Beerus and surpassed Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks which of course surpassed Super Saiyan 3 Goku.
It kinda makes sense but the series never explained that.
Completed SSB being so damn powerful that it matches Merged Zamasu, that would mean Fused Zamasu's boost from Black isn't much at all, even though Vegito in the Boo arc was massive despite Vegeta being much weaker than Goku when they fused
Yeah as mentioned above I thought that was very odd myself. Does it mean Completed Super Saiyan Blue is many fold stronger or the fusion was pitiful. Vegito and Kefla had a massive boost whereas Kibitoshin and maybe Elder Kai didn't seem to, unless it has something to do with one half of it being Kaioshin that limits it compared to the Saiyans.