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by Draconic » Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:51 am
I'm sure people have already discussed this to death, but I'll just put out some observations from the movie about Broly's strength.
He starts out in base versus base Vegeta and hold his own well, though I'd give Vegeta an advantage given he starts overwhelming Broly in their clench even prior to going Super Saiyan. Even though the aura suggests he's starting to draw power from the transformation, for all intents and purposes he's still in base form.
Broly starts adapting to the fight, which closes the gap between them, so base form Broly at his maximum output is comparable to a Super Saiyan.
Vegeta turns God... mostly out of wishing to prove his superiority and finishing the fight quickly, as he doesn't seem overwhelemed or surpassed at any point. Base form Broly is stomped hard by Super Saiyan God, but once he starts using his Oozaru-lite form, gets enough of a boost to stand up to Vegeta.
Goku intervenes and at this point it seems that Broly gets another power-up, fully entering his Rage form, as the bulking up and the raising of the hair showcases. However, between the fact that Goku and Vegeta should still be equals in the same forms and the fact that Goku puts up a very good fight with Rage Broly and dominates him with God's techniques... I'd wager Broly gets yet another power-up/rage boost to escape the cage and that up to that point he isn't really up to par with the the God realm of power.
However, once this all goes down, Broly decimates Goku in high fashion. But, as Paragus notes after Goku turns Super Saiyan Blue, that's his maximum output. He can barely keep up with Goku in that state and at this point his untapped potential from lack of fights and proper training is fully realized... and he can't match a Super Saiyan Blue. What's interesting about this is that means up to now he's also been weaker than Golden Freeza, explaining why Freeza is so nonchalant about the situation.
Super Saiyan Broly then is confirmed to be above two Super Saiyan Blues and can keep pounding a Golden Freeza for hours without as much as a care in the world. I'd also say that his full power form, considering it isn't even in the script, probably isn't any noteworthy increase from that and Gogeta turns Blue for no real reason. The fact that the Fusion lasts so he didn't expend that much energy supports that as well.
Considering all the power-ups, transformations and rage boosts he gets Broly really isn't that crazy. I feel like Ultra Instinct would've been more than enough to deal with him. There's nothing that makes me put him above Jiren at all and I'd wager Beerus would deal with him pretty easily too, even considering Goku's statement.