PerhapsTheOtherOne wrote:dragon boss z wrote:So does this prove that base Goku can fight at god level if he has to? At the very least I think the multipliers must be much less than some people think.
Nah, not "god level". He's just better at fighting people stronger than he is than Vegeta. Though I do agree that it puts the multipliers as smaller than expected, even for my own conservative estimates.
Of course, then you'll have people wondering where exactly to put base Goku and Vegeta, knowing how small these form-boost proportions are, numerically speaking.
Yeah, I'm not saying that he is saiyan beyond god or anything, just that with his skill he can fight on a low god level.
For example many people were saying U6 arc Frost and Cabba were actually stronger than RoF final form Frieza based off of how Goku and Vegeta went ssj against them and seemed to have a harder time, but I always thought narratively Frieza was supposed to be stronger, which was backed up in the ToP when he was clearly stronger than Frost and base Cabba in his final form. People were also saying Frost and Cabba were BoG SSG level.
I think the new movie backs up that Goku could have used his full skill against Frieza in RoF since it was a serious life or death fight, while in the U6 arc it was more him just having fun.
So basically what I'm saying is U6 Goku and Vegeta where fighting like how Vegeta was fighting against Broly, but in other instances, like how Goku fought RoF Frieza, Hit, Beerus, Jiren, ect.