That was probably because, for 1, he was new & Linda Young was Frieza for the longest time, so his radically different take on the character wasn't liked so much, or 2, he was still finding the voice. At the beginning, he sounded a LOT more feminine & soft spoken than he does now, so his more refined performance didn't really come around until Frieza transformed into his final form. I could easily see people not liking his first performance, but his later ones are MUCH better.DB_Fan1991 wrote:I remember everyone complaining about Chris Ayres’ Freeza when we first heard him now he’s one of the most beloved dub voices.
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I seem to remember most of the hate coming from his first few lines where Freeze makes his first appearance at the end of the episode. He sounded quite different from even the episode that came after.Scsigs wrote:That was probably because, for 1, he was new & Linda Young was Frieza for the longest time, so his radically different take on the character wasn't liked so much, or 2, he was still finding the voice. At the beginning, he sounded a LOT more feminine & soft spoken than he does now, so his more refined performance didn't really come around until Frieza transformed into his final form. I could easily see people not liking his first performance, but his later ones are MUCH better.DB_Fan1991 wrote:I remember everyone complaining about Chris Ayres’ Freeza when we first heard him now he’s one of the most beloved dub voices.
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Since the Aussie's/Kiwi's don't have their own dedicated thread any of you that are following this one a question how well is DBS selling over there?
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Here in Australia, it seems to fly off the shelves the day it releases at JB Hi-Fi, et alBaggie_Saiyan wrote:Since the Aussie's/Kiwi's don't have their own dedicated thread any of you that are following this one a question how well is DBS selling over there?
But at the same time too, there's no legal way to watch the dub due to international licensing agreements (FUNimation, Toonami, Adult Swim, etc aren't accessible without a VPN), aside from the DVD/BR releases once every three or four months.
People still find a way, but that's all I'll say about that.
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So you're basically admitted that people are being needless nitpicking. And Toriyama does gives a shit since the reason why he came back to Dragon Ball was because he didn't want DBE to be the one thing everyone remembers. He even talks about how he couldn't stop himself about caring about Dragon Ball. He just doesn't give a damn about hair color since he sees it as unimportant.Scsigs wrote:1. No one gives 2 shits about Bulma's hair color difference. It was originally meant to be purple & only Path to Power got it right. Her name is supposed to be Romanized as "Bluma/Blooma" but no one cares about that either, not even Toriyama, since he romanized it HIMSELF as "Bulma" in the manga. The reason no one's throwing a fit about it is because it's not a continuity error within the anime shows & movies. Her hair started out a shade of teal, now it's blue, but n one cares because it's close enough & doesn't present any problems.HeroR wrote:Bulma's hair color is different from both the anime and manga, yet no one commented on it. For some reason, fans act like Trunks' hair is the only dye job.
As Toriyama freely admitted in an interview, he doesn't give a damn about color consistency since he doesn't see it as important.
2. Trunks' hair was supposed to be the same color as Bulma's in the manga, but it was already set in stone in the anime. If it was supposed to be blue, it should've been colored that way back in the 90s to match Bulma's, but I don't think the animators knew who he was at the time. Plus, kid Trunks still has the purple hair, so it's both a continuity error AND an inconsistency in the show itself. If kid Trunks has blue hair, Future Trunks should as well. It only draws attention to itself because of the visual inconsistency. Everyone ELSE is perfectly on-point with their colors, so HE should be too.
3. I don't think Toriyama gives a shit about ANYTHING Dragon Ball related anymore, given some of the story & character decisions he's made, as well as letting the anime staff make. He just comes up with plots & lets the storytellers of the anime & manga go to town. In any case, his not caring about color consistency was ok for the manga, since it was always in black & white & Toriyama has always issues keeping a consistent continuity within Dragon Ball anyways. This is an anime TV series. Colors are ALWAYS part of anything animated & keeping a consistent continuity of coloring going is one of the things the animators need to do. Toriyama only does the storylines & character designs, so his input means jackshit to the animation staff passed the character designs & any new outfits they may have. Hair colors & the designs of their costumes from the past shows should be already known to them & they should be able to keep those consistent.
And even then, someone actually corrected Toriyama when he was drawing some of the character designs for Battle of Gods, since he forgot 18 was a blonde & kid Trunks' hair was purple, so I have NO idea why he thought that Future Trunks having blue hair was acceptable, or why the animators or producers did. It's a continuity gaff with the past shows & movies, it breaks this show's internal continuity just by itself, & it's a bad decision. If anything, one of the anime staff should've pointed out everything I just did & they should've corrected it before the episodes aired. If you honestly don't see this as a problem, you don't get how new TV shows in an established franchise should work.
No, I don't see the big deal since at it's just hair color, not someone's life's story being retcon.
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Madman do actually have the first 26 episodes of the dub available on their AnimeLab streaming service.shadowmaria wrote:But at the same time too, there's no legal way to watch the dub due to international licensing agreements (FUNimation, Toonami, Adult Swim, etc aren't accessible without a VPN), aside from the DVD/BR releases once every three or four months.
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That's true, but that's also only after the DVD/BR releases, so I threw that in with those without saying itSaiyamanMS wrote:Madman do actually have the first 26 episodes of the dub available on their AnimeLab streaming service.shadowmaria wrote:But at the same time too, there's no legal way to watch the dub due to international licensing agreements (FUNimation, Toonami, Adult Swim, etc aren't accessible without a VPN), aside from the DVD/BR releases once every three or four months.
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That's good to hear! It's doing super well in the U.S and over here in Atlantis - I mean the UK too. Got to say fair play to the DB community supporting the show through good and bad especially when retellings of said movies are already out and available cheaply heck most people probably already own them!shadowmaria wrote:Here in Australia, it seems to fly off the shelves the day it releases at JB Hi-Fi, et alBaggie_Saiyan wrote:Since the Aussie's/Kiwi's don't have their own dedicated thread any of you that are following this one a question how well is DBS selling over there?
But at the same time too, there's no legal way to watch the dub due to international licensing agreements (FUNimation, Toonami, Adult Swim, etc aren't accessible without a VPN), aside from the DVD/BR releases once every three or four months.
People still find a way, but that's all I'll say about that.
I watch the dub through other means which is why I got the retellings part of me felt guilty, I was initially gonna skip to Part 3. But I'm glad anyway looks better on your shelf to start from Part 1 unlike my Kai which is FUNi Part 2 (BD) Part 3 (DVD) Part 4 (BD) then UK S3&4 BD's then FUNi's TFC BD's. It's very odd lol.
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From that leaked video, I can say the final battle of the arc was done well, especially Trunks' lines
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If Schemmel's "accent" is more akin to his Vegetto one I'll be pretty satisfied.
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pretty sure that was confirmed fake.OLKv3 wrote:From that leaked video, I can say the final battle of the arc was done well, especially Trunks' lines
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Considering that that was clearly Eric Vale as Trunks, I can't see why anyone would say that.Dbzfan94 wrote:pretty sure that was confirmed fake.OLKv3 wrote:From that leaked video, I can say the final battle of the arc was done well, especially Trunks' lines
Yeah, I could see that working. One that's there, but is more uppercrust than outright British like Sabat's Vegeta has. I'm hoping that that's how it's turned out.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:If Schemmel's "accent" is more akin to his Vegetto one I'll be pretty satisfied.
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How did someone even get that footage? It seemed like every other clip using XV quotes but that was different
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Before it was taken down, that guy said that he recorded the clip after some sort of scavenger hunt in NYC (I believe that was the city he named) & the people there were able to see some short clips of the upcoming episodes along the way.Dbzfan94 wrote:How did someone even get that footage? It seemed like every other clip using XV quotes but that was different
As for the whole "clips using XV quotes" part, there's no way that that's what that was. For 1, XV doesn't have those lines from Eric Vale in it & I don't think any game does right now, & 2, The closest we've gotten to a good dub of that scene is TFS' version that parodies it from after that episode premiered in Japan last year. On top of that, if it WAS one of those, 1, why would that person record it off a flatscreen TV in a crowded room of people who wouldn't shut up, & 2, why would it be taken down for copyright not 24 hours after it was uploaded when the actual fan edits are still up & viewable right now months after they were uploaded? That alone lets you know it's legit the real deal.
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I know its legit now that I saw it. I hadn't seen it before that, I was going by what I heard. What I meant that there were tons of Black arc scenes using XV voice clips in the past pretending to be official so I was just suspicious. The TFS version wasnt really that good in my opinion but okay.Scsigs wrote:Before it was taken down, that guy said that he recorded the clip after some sort of scavenger hunt in NYC (I believe that was the city he named) & the people there were able to see some short clips of the upcoming episodes along the way.Dbzfan94 wrote:How did someone even get that footage? It seemed like every other clip using XV quotes but that was different
As for the whole "clips using XV quotes" part, there's no way that that's what that was. For 1, XV doesn't have those lines from Eric Vale in it & I don't think any game does right now, & 2, The closest we've gotten to a good dub of that scene is TFS' version that parodies it from after that episode premiered in Japan last year. On top of that, if it WAS one of those, 1, why would that person record it off a flatscreen TV in a crowded room of people who wouldn't shut up, & 2, why would it be taken down for copyright not 24 hours after it was uploaded? That alone lets you know it's legit the real deal.
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Is the clip still up? Haven't seen itDbzfan94 wrote:I know its legit now that I saw it. I hadn't seen it before that, I was going by what I heard. What I meant that there were tons of Black arc scenes using XV voice clips in the past pretending to be official so I was just suspicious. The TFS version wasnt really that good in my opinion but okay.Scsigs wrote:Before it was taken down, that guy said that he recorded the clip after some sort of scavenger hunt in NYC (I believe that was the city he named) & the people there were able to see some short clips of the upcoming episodes along the way.Dbzfan94 wrote:How did someone even get that footage? It seemed like every other clip using XV quotes but that was different
As for the whole "clips using XV quotes" part, there's no way that that's what that was. For 1, XV doesn't have those lines from Eric Vale in it & I don't think any game does right now, & 2, The closest we've gotten to a good dub of that scene is TFS' version that parodies it from after that episode premiered in Japan last year. On top of that, if it WAS one of those, 1, why would that person record it off a flatscreen TV in a crowded room of people who wouldn't shut up, & 2, why would it be taken down for copyright not 24 hours after it was uploaded? That alone lets you know it's legit the real deal.
Also, on the subject of lines not being heard in Xenoverse. Remember, there's actually surprising amount of unused lines from a lot of characters in the files.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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Are they alternate takes of dialogue in the game, or just alternate dialogue altogether? Because I doubt lines like the ones in that clip were sourced from XV2, to be honest.Kanassa wrote:Is the clip still up? Haven't seen itDbzfan94 wrote:I know its legit now that I saw it. I hadn't seen it before that, I was going by what I heard. What I meant that there were tons of Black arc scenes using XV voice clips in the past pretending to be official so I was just suspicious. The TFS version wasn't really that good in my opinion but okay.
Also, on the subject of lines not being heard in Xenoverse. Remember, there's actually surprising amount of unused lines from a lot of characters in the files.
Only dubs that matter are DB, Kai, & Super. Nothing else.
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Alternate dialogue and different Super Moves/Transformations.Scsigs wrote:Are they alternate takes of dialogue in the game, or just alternate dialogue altogether? Because I doubt lines like the ones in that clip were sourced from XV2, to be honest.Kanassa wrote:Is the clip still up? Haven't seen itDbzfan94 wrote:I know its legit now that I saw it. I hadn't seen it before that, I was going by what I heard. What I meant that there were tons of Black arc scenes using XV voice clips in the past pretending to be official so I was just suspicious. The TFS version wasn't really that good in my opinion but okay.
Also, on the subject of lines not being heard in Xenoverse. Remember, there's actually surprising amount of unused lines from a lot of characters in the files.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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Kanassa wrote:- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
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Is that leak still around? Anyone got a link to it?OLKv3 wrote:From that leaked video, I can say the final battle of the arc was done well, especially Trunks' lines
Never rated this saga anyways but maybe the dub can make it better?
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You REALLY shouldn't have said it was "confirmed fake" when you yourself wasn't sure. That's how misinformation spreads to begin withDbzfan94 wrote:I know its legit now that I saw it. I hadn't seen it before that, I was going by what I heard. What I meant that there were tons of Black arc scenes using XV voice clips in the past pretending to be official so I was just suspicious. The TFS version wasnt really that good in my opinion but okay.Scsigs wrote:Before it was taken down, that guy said that he recorded the clip after some sort of scavenger hunt in NYC (I believe that was the city he named) & the people there were able to see some short clips of the upcoming episodes along the way.Dbzfan94 wrote:How did someone even get that footage? It seemed like every other clip using XV quotes but that was different
As for the whole "clips using XV quotes" part, there's no way that that's what that was. For 1, XV doesn't have those lines from Eric Vale in it & I don't think any game does right now, & 2, The closest we've gotten to a good dub of that scene is TFS' version that parodies it from after that episode premiered in Japan last year. On top of that, if it WAS one of those, 1, why would that person record it off a flatscreen TV in a crowded room of people who wouldn't shut up, & 2, why would it be taken down for copyright not 24 hours after it was uploaded? That alone lets you know it's legit the real deal.
I can't find it anymore, it got taken down pretty quickly once it spreadJean0987654321 wrote:Is that leak still around? Anyone got a link to it?OLKv3 wrote:From that leaked video, I can say the final battle of the arc was done well, especially Trunks' lines
Never rated this saga anyways but maybe the dub can make it better?