"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

Post by Scsigs » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:23 pm

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HeroR wrote:There description of Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken was off since they called the Kaioken calm. Someone probably should tell Sabet this so it can be corrected.
Sean has confirmed on twitter the corrections have already been recorded.
Yep. https://twitter.com/SeanSchemmel/status ... 5012932608
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

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Scsigs wrote:
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HeroR wrote:There description of Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken was off since they called the Kaioken calm. Someone probably should tell Sabet this so it can be corrected.
Sean has confirmed on twitter the corrections have already been recorded.
Yep. https://twitter.com/SeanSchemmel/status ... 5012932608
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Post by gohan_black » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:49 am

There is something about the hit fights episodes which are superior to the current TOP. The focus on hand to hand combat. Blocking,timing,techniqes etc. The lack of flying too. I actually think the previous episode was better since he reminded me of dragon ball. This episode had a lot of z aspects to it. But when you see it as awhole the universe 6 tournament is superior to the TOP. Because it focusing on smart martial arts while the TOP has flat fightings in it.

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Post by ConfusedPhantom » Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:44 pm

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Asura wrote:Am I the only one hearing some weird screaming alongside of Goku's when he says the x10 in Kaioken x10? As if there's someone else shouting?

Like right in the beginning here: https://youtu.be/Mxp4Ds9Sjsc?t=171

Kinda ruining the scream for me since it sounds so silly and random.
I think that is just Sean's voice cracking.
I don't think so, since it sounds like two voices at once and you can still hear his scream in the background.

Also, unpopular opinion but I was a little bit disappointed. The TIMES TEN part and all that was great but I thought all of the screaming was far too gravely like he was taking tips from Eric Vale on how to do the screaming this episode. The sounds/yelling he made while punching also sounded a little too over the top.
They've been doing that lately. They've been layering their own screams, with one of the copies being pitched down in the back track.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

Post by Asura » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:29 pm

gohan_black wrote:There is something about the hit fights episodes which are superior to the current TOP. The focus on hand to hand combat. Blocking,timing,techniqes etc. The lack of flying too. I actually think the previous episode was better since he reminded me of dragon ball. This episode had a lot of z aspects to it. But when you see it as awhole the universe 6 tournament is superior to the TOP. Because it focusing on smart martial arts while the TOP has flat fightings in it.
This has nothing to do with the FUNi dub, take your silly grievances with the ToP elsewhere.

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Asura wrote:
HeroR wrote:
I think that is just Sean's voice cracking.
I don't think so, since it sounds like two voices at once and you can still hear his scream in the background.

Also, unpopular opinion but I was a little bit disappointed. The TIMES TEN part and all that was great but I thought all of the screaming was far too gravely like he was taking tips from Eric Vale on how to do the screaming this episode. The sounds/yelling he made while punching also sounded a little too over the top.
They've been doing that lately. They've been layering their own screams, with one of the copies being pitched down in the back track.
It sounds like shit. They should be layering one scream as the other one begins to end, not both at the same time.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

Post by gohan_black » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:12 pm

Asura wrote:
gohan_black wrote:There is something about the hit fights episodes which are superior to the current TOP. The focus on hand to hand combat. Blocking,timing,techniqes etc. The lack of flying too. I actually think the previous episode was better since he reminded me of dragon ball. This episode had a lot of z aspects to it. But when you see it as awhole the universe 6 tournament is superior to the TOP. Because it focusing on smart martial arts while the TOP has flat fightings in it.
This has nothing to do with the FUNi dub, take your silly grievances with the ToP elsewhere.

ConfusedPhantom wrote: They've been doing that lately. They've been layering their own screams, with one of the copies being pitched down in the back track.
It sounds like shit. They should be layering one scream as the other one begins to end, not both at the same time.
Look at the butthurt loser get triggerd. It has everything to do with the thread you troll loser

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

Post by Asura » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:07 pm

gohan_black wrote:
Asura wrote:
gohan_black wrote:There is something about the hit fights episodes which are superior to the current TOP. The focus on hand to hand combat. Blocking,timing,techniqes etc. The lack of flying too. I actually think the previous episode was better since he reminded me of dragon ball. This episode had a lot of z aspects to it. But when you see it as awhole the universe 6 tournament is superior to the TOP. Because it focusing on smart martial arts while the TOP has flat fightings in it.
This has nothing to do with the FUNi dub, take your silly grievances with the ToP elsewhere.

ConfusedPhantom wrote: They've been doing that lately. They've been layering their own screams, with one of the copies being pitched down in the back track.
It sounds like shit. They should be layering one scream as the other one begins to end, not both at the same time.
Look at the butthurt loser get triggerd. It has everything to do with the thread you troll loser
Here, I fixed your post for you since you didn't quite format your quote properly.

No, whining about how you dislike the Tournament of Power and your complaints about it has literally zero relevance to FUNi's english dub of Super which is nowhere even near the ToP arc right now, and nothing you said has anything to do with the eventual dub of the ToP either. Nice name-calling by the way, now grow up.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

Post by Scsigs » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:39 am

gohan_black wrote:
Asura wrote:
gohan_black wrote:There is something about the hit fights episodes which are superior to the current TOP. The focus on hand to hand combat. Blocking,timing,techniqes etc. The lack of flying too. I actually think the previous episode was better since he reminded me of dragon ball. This episode had a lot of z aspects to it. But when you see it as awhole the universe 6 tournament is superior to the TOP. Because it focusing on smart martial arts while the TOP has flat fightings in it.
This has nothing to do with the FUNi dub, take your silly grievances with the ToP elsewhere.

ConfusedPhantom wrote: They've been doing that lately. They've been layering their own screams, with one of the copies being pitched down in the back track.
It sounds like shit. They should be layering one scream as the other one begins to end, not both at the same time.
Look at the butthurt loser get triggered. It has everything to do with the thread you troll loser
Do you even remotely read your comments back to yourself before you post them? On top of your constant spelling & grammar errors, which don't seem to be going away any time soon, that comment could've EASILY gone to the general Super discussion thread, since that has to do more with the general direction of the show in terms of the animation of the fight sequences. Stating it here, the only connection I've seen with your posting your comments here is that you think that it's relevant to this thread just because you're watching the dub & reevaluating these episodes as you go. While I get it, I agree that it doesn't belong in this specific thread. If you wanna discuss this, either post these comments in the general Super thread, or start your own thread relating to reevaluating older Super episodes by watching the dub versus the first time over a year ago with the sub. Don't call someone "triggered" or "butthurt" just because they have a point in saying something & bring it up with you, or you'll end up the loser, dude.
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Post by Scsigs » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:26 pm

So, um, anyne wanna discuss Totally Not Mark's video on the dub VS the sub? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtImDcJj4VE
I think he makes a lot of great points.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

Post by Dbzfan94 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:47 pm

Scsigs wrote:So, um, anyne wanna discuss Totally Not Mark's video on the dub VS the sub? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtImDcJj4VE
I think he makes a lot of great points.
This was such a great video, he made great points. I got chills watching the dub SSB KKX10 scene again. Also one thing he said that I found interesting was "if you have issues with the dub for whatever reason, understand that there are just many thing to not like about the Japanese." That's a controversial statement right there :lol: :lol:

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Post by Scsigs » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:14 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:
Scsigs wrote:So, um, anyne wanna discuss Totally Not Mark's video on the dub VS the sub? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtImDcJj4VE
I think he makes a lot of great points.
This was such a great video, he made great points. I got chills watching the dub SSB KKX10 scene again. Also one thing he said that I found interesting was "if you have issues with the dub for whatever reason, understand that there are just many thing to not like about the Japanese." That's a controversial statement right there :lol: :lol:
Also entirely accurate, since that's what's started the fandom wars of many an anime.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:49 pm

The extra with Sabat and his daughter is just so cute!

While these extra's are fun I hope FUNi do some commentaries later one too, they should be really interesting even if to hear the casts thoughts on the actual show.

And the NEP's are fantastic Schemmel killed it!

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Post by Asura » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:31 pm

Scsigs wrote:So, um, anyne wanna discuss Totally Not Mark's video on the dub VS the sub? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtImDcJj4VE
I think he makes a lot of great points.
He makes some good points but I feel like his bias for the dub is quite obvious, especially evident by him saying no one cares about Magetta's voice and his JP voice is "stupid" anyway so it's good that it's been changed.

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Post by Scsigs » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:15 pm

Asura wrote:
Scsigs wrote:So, um, anyne wanna discuss Totally Not Mark's video on the dub VS the sub? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtImDcJj4VE
I think he makes a lot of great points.
He makes some good points but I feel like his bias for the dub is quite obvious, especially evident by him saying no one cares about Magetta's voice and his JP voice is "stupid" anyway so it's good that it's been changed.
I'm more of the opinion that it doesn't matter what exactly they do with Magetta because the character doesn't matter, & doesn't speak worth a damn. His Japanese voice IS kinda just there because of those reasons.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:28 pm

Asura wrote:
Scsigs wrote:So, um, anyne wanna discuss Totally Not Mark's video on the dub VS the sub? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtImDcJj4VE
I think he makes a lot of great points.
He makes some good points but I feel like his bias for the dub is quite obvious, especially evident by him saying no one cares about Magetta's voice and his JP voice is "stupid" anyway so it's good that it's been changed.
So is his JPN voice not stupid sounding then? Saying Chopo over and over is the new Shakespearean lingo!
And I don't think it's necessary means good but more it doesn't matter, it literally didn't affect narrative.

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Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Asura wrote:
Scsigs wrote:So, um, anyne wanna discuss Totally Not Mark's video on the dub VS the sub? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtImDcJj4VE
I think he makes a lot of great points.
He makes some good points but I feel like his bias for the dub is quite obvious, especially evident by him saying no one cares about Magetta's voice and his JP voice is "stupid" anyway so it's good that it's been changed.
So is his JPN voice not stupid sounding then? Saying Chopo over and over is the new Shakespearean lingo!
And I don't think it's necessary means good but more it doesn't matter, it literally didn't affect narrative.
I'd rather have a real voice actor over Microsoft Sam.

The whole point of Magetta's race was that he's not an artificial being despite looking like one, so giving him a Microsoft Sam robotic voice directly contradicts his character and completely misses the whole point.

It was a bad, illogical decision, and just because it doesn't affect the narrative doesn't make it okay to do. It's not like Magetta is some one-off character that we never see again. He re-appears in Episode 70 and is in the ToP arc where he appears multiple times. His voice is even directly referenced as a joke by Roshi. I'd be fine with it if we never saw Magetta again after the U6 arc, but the fact of the matter is he's a reoccurring character and even if he's a minor character, it's still a change that absolutely was not needed.

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Post by Scsigs » Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:54 pm

Asura wrote:I'd rather have a real voice actor over Microsoft Sam.

The whole point of Magetta's race was that he's not an artificial being despite looking like one, so giving him a Microsoft Sam robotic voice directly contradicts his character and completely misses the whole point.

It was a bad, illogical decision, and just because it doesn't affect the narrative doesn't make it okay to do. It's not like Magetta is some one-off character that we never see again. He re-appears in Episode 70 and is in the ToP arc where he appears multiple times. His voice is even directly referenced as a joke by Roshi. I'd be fine with it if we never saw Magetta again after the U6 arc, but the fact of the matter is he's a reoccurring character and even if he's a minor character, it's still a change that absolutely was not needed.
I mean, I can understand where you're coming from, but even in the dub, he's said to come from a certain planet of being like himself & isn't said not to be sentient, so there's still a possibility to actually give him an actual voice actor down the line. And with that joke, while it may be a bit generic, they could adapt the joke to fit the context of their dub, like, "He sounds like someone just typed words into a computer speech program!" or something like that. It would also add a bit of self depreciation on their parts, which is a healthy thing to have a sense of humor about. Hell, that's what the TFS lines in the Kai TFC Cell Games Reenactment felt like they were doing, or at least trying to do, though I do admit it does suffer from the "overly long gag" trope if you don't like TFS for any reason.
In terms of his future appearances, does he speak, or does he still do the whole grunting & Japanese gibberish thing he was doing in this arc? Because if he does speak, ok, but if he doesn't, they have no reason to really change anything with his English voice. Magetta is a character with no point to him other than to bring some possibly interesting battles with him, not much more. We've had other characters like that in Dragon Ball, like that stinky guy who fought Krillin in the first ever Tournament arc, though that was back when the series was mostly focused on comedy. This is the only time I've seen anyone complain about a character like that, though.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:54 am

Asura wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Asura wrote:
He makes some good points but I feel like his bias for the dub is quite obvious, especially evident by him saying no one cares about Magetta's voice and his JP voice is "stupid" anyway so it's good that it's been changed.
So is his JPN voice not stupid sounding then? Saying Chopo over and over is the new Shakespearean lingo!
And I don't think it's necessary means good but more it doesn't matter, it literally didn't affect narrative.
I'd rather have a real voice actor over Microsoft Sam.

The whole point of Magetta's race was that he's not an artificial being despite looking like one, so giving him a Microsoft Sam robotic voice directly contradicts his character and completely misses the whole point.

It was a bad, illogical decision, and just because it doesn't affect the narrative doesn't make it okay to do. It's not like Magetta is some one-off character that we never see again. He re-appears in Episode 70 and is in the ToP arc where he appears multiple times. His voice is even directly referenced as a joke by Roshi. I'd be fine with it if we never saw Magetta again after the U6 arc, but the fact of the matter is he's a reoccurring character and even if he's a minor character, it's still a change that absolutely was not needed.
He may appear a few times later but he's hardly relevant, after his fight with Vegeta he's just a character that is there in the background. [spoiler]How many people were upset when he got ringed out in the ToP? Tells you all you need to know.[/spoiler]
Also it's one joke that they can easily work around.

I do agree it was unnecessary but my point is it's nothing to really get worked up about or care, it's only Magetta.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:47 pm

#42 final version episode title: "A Chaotic Victory Party! Showdown at Last?! Monaka vs. Goku!"

(For the record the provisional one was "The Stormy Victory Party! Is It Finally Monaka vs. Son Goku?!")

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Post by Noah » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:50 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:SSGSSKKx10 dubs comparison:

Schemmel easily wins, followed by the Italian dub, I love Nozawa but damn she sounds pretty lackluster here to be honest.
Not really. Nozawa still Top #1 as none of the others VAs surpassed her "JU BAI DA" scream with Castañeda coming close as #2, Schemmel screams were good but a bit over the top, I still would put him in #3 though.
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