"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

[Baggie_Saiyan]

SSGSSKKx10 dubs comparison:

Schemmel easily wins, followed by the Italian dub, I love Nozawa but damn she sounds pretty lackluster here to be honest.

Not really. Nozawa still Top #1 as none of the others VAs surpassed her "JU BAI DA" scream with Castañeda coming close as #2, Schemmel screams were good but a bit over the top, I still would put him in #3 though.

Nozawa sounds like she's doing a generic power up and not something as intense as the 10x Kaioken. Compared to her work on Z it's incredibly lackluster. Her JuBaiDa cry has no intensity or weight to it at all.

[Asura]

SSGSSKKx10 dubs comparison:

Schemmel easily wins, followed by the Italian dub, I love Nozawa but damn she sounds pretty lackluster here to be honest.

Not really. Nozawa still Top #1 as none of the others VAs surpassed her "JU BAI DA" scream with Castañeda coming close as #2, Schemmel screams were good but a bit over the top, I still would put him in #3 though.

Nozawa sounds like she's doing a generic power up and not something as intense as the 10x Kaioken. Compared to her work on Z it's incredibly lackluster. Her JuBaiDa cry has no intensity or weight to it at all.

That's definitely not true, her scream is intense and powerful. The whole point that guy made about the Kaioken putting the body under a lot of stress and the voice reflecting that makes sense, but is not something that's necessary and isn't something that we've seen out of Schemmel before when he's done the Kaioken in the past.

Personally I think they both sound great. People often forget Nozawa is 81 years old, but even with that factored in she still does an awesome job. I view Schemmel and Nozawa as equals and don't necessarily prefer one over the other, so that's also how I view this scene.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Not really. Nozawa still Top #1 as none of the others VAs surpassed her "JU BAI DA" scream with Castañeda coming close as #2, Schemmel screams were good but a bit over the top, I still would put him in #3 though.

Nozawa sounds like she's doing a generic power up and not something as intense as the 10x Kaioken. Compared to her work on Z it's incredibly lackluster. Her JuBaiDa cry has no intensity or weight to it at all.

That's definitely not true, her scream is intense and powerful. The whole point that guy made about the Kaioken putting the body under a lot of stress and the voice reflecting that makes sense, but is not something that's necessary and isn't something that we've seen out of Schemmel before when he's done the Kaioken in the past.

Personally I think they both sound great. People often forget Nozawa is 81 years old, but even with that factored in she still does an awesome job. I view Schemmel and Nozawa as equals and don't necessarily prefer one over the other, so that's also how I view this scene.

She is awesome but I dunno after hearing Schemmel last week going back to Nozawa it felt off and Mark's video explained how I felt about it, I couldn't put my finger on why I felt that way until I watched the video.

I think the JPN vocal direction has been pretty poor on the whole to be honest, examples already given like Nakao voicing Frost the same as Freeza but even instances like Rumoosh's VA not matching what the character doing on screen the char seemed far more livelier than what the actor was doing (fortunately the character isn't important) there's also been many instances of lip flaps not matching. Miki as Z was good but there were instances where I felt he went a little too overboard. Also the "atatatatatata's". It's a far cry from the Z days even accounting the age of the cast. People were like the JPN VA were bored for Kai but I don't think so given DBS, I think it's the vocal direction.

[Cure Dragon 255]

Nozawa still has Goku Black. So far nobody has managed to match her.

[HeroR]

She is awesome but I dunno after hearing Schemmel last week going back to Nozawa it felt off and Mark's video explained how I felt about it, I couldn't put my finger on why I felt that way until I watched the video.

I think the JPN vocal direction has been pretty poor on the whole to be honest, examples already given like Nakao voicing Frost the same as Freeza but even instances like Rumoosh's VA not matching what the character doing on screen the char seemed far more livelier than what the actor was doing (fortunately the character isn't important) there's also been many instances of lip flaps not matching. Miki as Z was good but there were instances where I felt he went a little too overboard. Also the "atatatatatata's". It's a far cry from the Z days even accounting the age of the cast. People were like the JPN VA were bored for Kai but I don't think so given DBS, I think it's the vocal direction.

Don't think it is since even the most hardcore critics of Super said nothing about the vocal direction being off or bad, and these are from people who grew up with the subs, not the dubs. We even have people who lived in Japan like Herms who said nothing about the vocals. In fact, even the people who don't like Super praised the vocal work like with Zamasu. The only real criticisms I've heard about the voices are Kale and Zen'o. Nakao voicing Frost was more of a complaint on casting than his performance.

The "atatatatatata's" complaint is weird since for some reason this didn't become an issue until 90, now everyone suddenly notices it and get triggered. Lip flaps not matching is also more on animation.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

She is awesome but I dunno after hearing Schemmel last week going back to Nozawa it felt off and Mark's video explained how I felt about it, I couldn't put my finger on why I felt that way until I watched the video.

I think the JPN vocal direction has been pretty poor on the whole to be honest, examples already given like Nakao voicing Frost the same as Freeza but even instances like Rumoosh's VA not matching what the character doing on screen the char seemed far more livelier than what the actor was doing (fortunately the character isn't important) there's also been many instances of lip flaps not matching. Miki as Z was good but there were instances where I felt he went a little too overboard. Also the "atatatatatata's". It's a far cry from the Z days even accounting the age of the cast. People were like the JPN VA were bored for Kai but I don't think so given DBS, I think it's the vocal direction.

Don't think it is since even the most hardcore critics of Super said nothing about the vocal direction being off or bad, and these are from people who grew up with the subs, not the dubs. We even have people who lived in Japan like Herms who said nothing about the vocals. In fact, even the people who don't like Super praised the vocal work like with Zamasu. The only real criticisms I've heard about the voices are Kale and Zen'o. Nakao voicing Frost was more of a complaint on casting than his performance.

The "atatatatatata's" complaint is weird since for some reason this didn't become an issue until 90, now everyone suddenly notices it and get triggered. Lip flaps not matching is also more on animation.

So since it hasn't been critiqued before means I can't critique it or the subject can't be critiqued?

And I'm not saying performances or actors are bad just direction has been questionable, the voice direction team were responsible for casting Nakao as Frost and then having him sound the same, you're right it's not the actors fault and I'm not saying that I'm calling out the voice direction. Also I'm fairly sure the JPN cast record to finished or almost finished animation so there isn't an excuse to not match flaps. I already said Miki was good and besides Z and Black how often is vocal work praised in regular DBS discussion? Not very much.

[HeroR]

So since it hasn't been critiqued before means I can't critique it or the subject can't be critiqued?

And I'm not saying performances or actors are bad just direction has been questionable, the voice direction team were responsible for casting Nakao as Frost and then having him sound the same, you're right it's not the actors fault and I'm not saying that I'm calling out the voice direction. Also I'm fairly sure the JPN cast record to finished or almost finished animation so there isn't an excuse to not match flaps. I already said Miki was good and besides Z and Black how often is vocal work praised in regular DBS discussion? Not very much.

Don't put words in my mouth, I didn't say that at all.

I was making an objective statement that people who grew up with the sub or are very more familiar with the Japanese voice actors and actresses never said that Super's vocal direction was questionable outside of maybe Kale and Frost's casting. And these are the same people who were critical of Kai, so I see no reason for them not to have the same or similar complaints about Super if the same hold true here. Also as a nitpick, Nakao as Frost doesn't sound the same as Freeza or even Cooler. You can talk to someone more familiar with the subs about the subtile different because I remember the podcast here talked about it. Although even they admit that having Nakao do Frost wasn't the best casting choice.

Actually, the person who does Goku's voice said that animation and voice works are not always done at the same time and they some times do vocal work on incomplete episodes.

Also, the vocal work in Super is praised, but the reason you don't hear it a lot is because the Japanese's actors are expected to sound good. Like most things, people don't tend to say anything unless something is extremely bad or extremely good. Like you don't hear a lot about the voice work in One Piece, but fans will tell you that for all of the problems in the One Piece anime, the voice work isn't one of them and is one of the high points of the anime.

[ConfusedPhantom]

So, um, anyne wanna discuss Totally Not Mark's video on the dub VS the sub? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtImDcJj4VE
I think he makes a lot of great points.

He makes some good points but I feel like his bias for the dub is quite obvious, especially evident by him saying no one cares about Magetta's voice and his JP voice is "stupid" anyway so it's good that it's been changed.

I'm more of the opinion that it doesn't matter what exactly they do with Magetta because the character doesn't matter, & doesn't speak worth a damn. His Japanese voice IS kinda just there because of those reasons.

My issue is the Microsoft Sam voice doesn't feel like it's coming from the show. It's very detached from what is happening. Heck, even if they did give that first, I'd probably still feel like the Microsoft Sam voice doesn't belong. Yeah, the "Shi-po!" is goofy and Magetta is just a throw away character. But it fits the show. It's not a big deal. But the change is strangely off-putting.

[HeroR]

I am more curious if anyone asked Funi why they made the change. Like, was it because to make the joke that Magetta wasn't a robot, but everyone thought he was more apparent? Everyone is coming up with theories, instead of asking the people behind the change.

[Dragon Ball Gus]

Okay, Episode 40, let's see how they handle this one. Only one more week left until we hear Zeno's voice (unless he talked in this episode, i forget, does he?) and fingers crossed they don't cut out the dick joke.

[Dragon Ball Gus]

AAAAH!!! OH MY GOSH! OH MY GOSH!! OH MY GOSH!!!
Guys! Funimation just posted on their Twitter, an early look at Zeno's English voice, and.... Oh my gosh, he sounds so CUUUUUTE! I'll post it down here, so that you guys can hear the cuteness!

https://twitter.com/FUNimation/status/9 ... 7757459457

PS: They spelled it as "Zeno", not "Zen-Oh".

[mint0h]

Galactic King: That's a, highly sensitive organ

So, Penis joke got changed I guess?

[OmegaRockman]

AAAAH!!! OH MY GOSH! OH MY GOSH!! OH MY GOSH!!!
Guys! Funimation just posted on their Twitter, an early look at Zeno's English voice, and.... Oh my gosh, he sounds so CUUUUUTE! I'll post it down here, so that you guys can hear the cuteness!

https://twitter.com/FUNimation/status/9 ... 7757459457

PS: They spelled it as "Zeno", not "Zen-Oh".

Holy crap, they're going with Zen-Oh AND Omni King! That's... pretty dope!

[DBZ_Lee]

WOW! she's awesome! so very close to the Japanese version, and that is perfect.
Zen-Oh and Omni King? I love this decision, great casting again from Mr. Sabat.

[Kataphrut]

Sarah Wiedenheft is the actor lending her voice to this delightful abomination. Great casting choice, she makes him sound cute and just a bit creepy as well. I love the lines too. Lots of short, simple sentences. Very childlike.

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

Zeno sounds so friggin cute. I just wanna hug the little shit.

[Tian]

AAAAH!!! OH MY GOSH! OH MY GOSH!! OH MY GOSH!!!
Guys! Funimation just posted on their Twitter, an early look at Zeno's English voice, and.... Oh my gosh, he sounds so CUUUUUTE! I'll post it down here, so that you guys can hear the cuteness!

https://twitter.com/FUNimation/status/9 ... 7757459457

PS: They spelled it as "Zeno", not "Zen-Oh".

Oh Kami! That voice is really CUTE! It almost made me want to hug the monitor.

I bet CureDragon255 will like it.

[Kaio_Krazy]

Zen-Oh and Omni King? Oh I like this compromise. Whoever the voice actor is, she sounds one-to-one with the Japanese, great casting.

[nato25]

Great casting loved that entire clip. This week was also great, I don't think Super has put a foot wrong in terms of casting so far. My favourite new addition is still Ian Sinclair as Whis, so spot on to the Japanese and always acting perfectly.

[Scsigs]

Great casting loved that entire clip. This week was also great, I don't think Super has put a foot wrong in terms of casting so far. My favourite new addition is still Ian Sinclair as Whis, so spot on to the Japanese and always acting perfectly.

Except that Ian hasn't been "new" since 2014 when he was in Battle of Gods.