DBZ_Lee wrote:Ugh. I hate this situation. I know it's just how it works, and it's Adult Swim's channel, and they totally have the right to do with it as they please, but we're never getting anywhere at this rate.
I have no idea what Forneverworld was hyping up all those months ago, but I think it's likely been scrapped.
I've spoken briefly to a couple of actors in the last week or so, who voice main characters, and they told me they can't Simuldub because of how far back they are due to how long it took them to secure the license.
This is how it is now, unless Toei let them go ahead and release home video monthly, but I'm having a laugh there, truth be told - never happening.
Frustrating thing is, they don't make a dime on ratings, and Kai has proved that regardless of whether the episodes are available or not, they still draw solid numbers.
At the end of the day, they could dub and catch up, or at least close the gap to within 3 months or something, but Toei aren't interested it would seem.
You DO know how dubbing &/or releasing Japanese shows works, right? Unless it's a special case, like the Resurrection F movie, rarely do any anime shows or movies get dubbed & released within the same timeframe as the Japanese releases. This is a cost of the Japanese companies wanting to curb reverse importation as much as possible so THEY still make a profit off of their releases, since importing American releases is substantially more cheap for Japanese people to do than buying their own country's releases, due to the currency exchange. I'm betting a lot of Japanese Sailor Moon fans are buying Viz's releases of Crystal & Toku fans are getting Shout's releases of Super Sentai, since they get more episodes for far less money than Toei has done for THEIR releases. Plus they probably haven't had a rerelease of the Sentai seasons Shout's released in a while. Super's similar. The reason I'm waiting for the inevitable season sets is because they're 2-in-1's of the part sets & are cheaper than the 2 separated as a result. That's one reason I see.
But then there's also the fact that Toei's REALLY protective of their properties & still have some really archaic practices that they regularly enforce as a company, almost as bad as Nintendo in my opinion. They took TOO long to get a simulcast of subbed Super, they took over a year & a half to let FUNi start releasing their dub of the series, they wouldn't simply let FUNimation just release Kai TFC earlier than they did unless it was airing on TV for NO reason whatsoever, they regularly try to take DBZ Abridged down (that last one may not seem as serious as the last few, but DBZA, I would say, only helps them in the long run. Plus, whether you agree or not, it seems that their writers are taking inspiration from them at points, so it's not like it's entirely that bad), & the production schedule of DBS was REALLY not well handled whatsoever at first. I mean, they had the animators working to complete episodes in 4 weeks rather than the more reasonable 6 weeks or so just to get the earlier episodes out the door. We're lucky the earlier episodes didn't turn out MORE shitty than a lot of people consider them to be (which I NEVER got. Did episode 5 REALLY leave
that bad a taste in people's mouths that they think the entirety of the first several arc had bad animation?), which they could've easily.
They're also seeming to more so please Toriyama rather than keeping character consistencies, the main of which is Goku, who's even MORE selfish & stupid than even in the Cell & Buu Sagas of Z, even in the manga if Kai's something to go off of. I have no problem with Goku being a simpleton, naive, & wanting to have fun with his training & fighting, since that's been a part of his character from the beginning, but the flanderization of these traits gets infuriating. I get that they want the writers to take Toriyama's intentions into consideration, since that makes sense, but it only serves to annoy people if they don't try to actually analyze what exactly Toriyama's intentions were by rereading the manga to gauge what each character was all about.
Anyways, if you want things to come quicker in home releases, that's not gonna happen. Even simuldubbed series have to wait a while after the Japanese releases to come out, at least physically. Digitally, I don't think there's a problem, but for some reason, FUNimation seems to have NO interest in releasing Dragon Ball digitally ANYWHERE but Amazon digital & Xbox Video for some reason. The last 2 movies
are on iTunes, & the shows are on their streaming service, but I'd like to have the shows digitally on a service where it's a one-time payment & I own it forever, rather than paying for a streaming service I have no reason to use ever.
If you want the TV airings to speed up, that's not gonna happen either, mostly due to actor availability & lead-in time needed to record the dub. Plus, as you said, how long it took them to get the rights to the show.
Forneverworld, I'm thinking, must've been talking about a whole bunch of things he was told about how they were gonna do a bunch of the licenses they had but didn't announce at the time. That video was back in what? January or something? Surely he would've talked about something by now if there was anything to talk about. In any case, I've stopped watching him personally, mostly due to the Double4Clickbait VS Forneverending Clickbait BS that went on earlier this year, on top of the clickbait in his video titles that he constantly has, which I don't think I've drawn attention to enough.
Anyways, one thing I've learned with Toei is, don't be expecting next-level things ever, unless they actually give you reason to, because it's not gonna happen. Lower your standards, & have no hope for them, & you'll never be disappointed. I know I'm sounding depressing, but that's Toei for you.
