"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

[Lord Beerus]

Episodes 21 - 26, visually speaking, is some of the worst fucking shit the franchise has ever produced. And it's only salvaged by the fact it's arguably better written than the movie and Tate's awesomeness in episode 26.

Episodes 21-23 are not visually awful, at least not in the "worst fucking shit the franchise has ever produced". The animation only nose drives in Episode 24-26.

Outside of a few good shots here and there, those chunk of episodes are really far from satisfactory, excluding Tate killing in episode 26.

[HeroR]

Episodes 21 - 26, visually speaking, is some of the worst fucking shit the franchise has ever produced. And it's only salvaged by the fact it's arguably better written than the movie and Tate's awesomeness in episode 26.

Episodes 21-23 are not visually awful, at least not in the "worst fucking shit the franchise has ever produced". The animation only nose drives in Episode 24-26.

Out of a few good shots here and there, those chunk of episodes are really far from satisfactory, excluding Tate killing in episode 26.

I just watched Episodes 21-23 and the animation was okay. There was nothing that screamed, "OMG, this is ugly". As for Tate, I personally didn't like his shots in Episode 26.

[Dragon Ball Gus]

I can't stop saying it, the dub makes this show so much better.

Of course, this is right before the ROF arc animation debacle. Let's see how 23 and 24 come out. These episodes weren't fixed for the blue rays, so expect the same shitty animation as we got back in the original Fuji TV run in 2015.

After episode 22, the art/animation began to take a turn to the worst in the arc with only a few decent scenes in between. Episode 27 was ok, but the art was really hard to look at in some scenes.

Episodes 21 - 26, visually speaking, is some of the worst fucking shit the franchise has ever produced. And it's only salvaged by the fact it's arguably better written than the movie and Tate's awesomeness in episode 26.

Wow. Even the God of Destruction Beerus, one of the most powerful beings of the entire multiverse, hates the Resurrection F arc.

[Lord Beerus]

After episode 22, the art/animation began to take a turn to the worst in the arc with only a few decent scenes in between. Episode 27 was ok, but the art was really hard to look at in some scenes.

Episodes 21 - 26, visually speaking, is some of the worst fucking shit the franchise has ever produced. And it's only salvaged by the fact it's arguably better written than the movie and Tate's awesomeness in episode 26.

Wow. Even the God of Destruction Beerus, one of the most powerful beings of the entire multiverse, hates the Resurrection F arc.

I specifically hate Episodes 21 - 26. All the padding and additional material that could have benefited the film in retelling it into an multi-episode arc went into the wrong areas for the most part (Ginyu-Frog, Gotenks, Piccolo dying) and in the areas it should have went into, it was handled poorly (Gohan, Tagoma, the Z-Fighters vs Freeza's Army, Jaco, Vegeta attaining SSJB). I do give it credit for making more sense of the Sorbet ring scene, axing the 1.3 million line and making Goku's characterization more balanced and less Blood Knight-ish than it was in the movie. But everything else about the Super retelling of Resurrection F was very lackluster compared to the Resurrection F movie. From animation, to music, and to use of characters. Episodes 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 27, and the first half of episode 26 are fine, but the rest of the episodes are just hot garbage.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Episodes 21 - 26, visually speaking, is some of the worst fucking shit the franchise has ever produced. And it's only salvaged by the fact it's arguably better written than the movie and Tate's awesomeness in episode 26.

Episodes 21-23 are not visually awful, at least not in the "worst fucking shit the franchise has ever produced". The animation only nose drives in Episode 24-26.

Outside of a few good shots here and there, those chunk of episodes are really far from satisfactory, excluding Tate killing in episode 26.

It still pains me that Tate's best cut in Super came in the Freeza retelling.... People hype up over the #18 Goku fight but I still think his Freeza cut was better.

[Hit!!]

Episodes 21-23 are not visually awful, at least not in the "worst fucking shit the franchise has ever produced". The animation only nose drives in Episode 24-26.

Outside of a few good shots here and there, those chunk of episodes are really far from satisfactory, excluding Tate killing in episode 26.

It still pains me that Tate's best cut in Super came in the Freeza retelling.... People hype up over the #18 Goku fight but I still think his Freeza cut was better.

In my opinion that cut is overhyped. The Goku vs 17 fight looked 10 times better.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Outside of a few good shots here and there, those chunk of episodes are really far from satisfactory, excluding Tate killing in episode 26.

It still pains me that Tate's best cut in Super came in the Freeza retelling.... People hype up over the #18 Goku fight but I still think his Freeza cut was better.

In my opinion that cut is overhyped. The Goku vs 17 fight looked 10 times better.

Funny I think the #17 one is overhyped. The art direction with the sun and orange skies etc I think makes people think the cut is better than it actually is. It's not even in my top 5 cuts of the series anymore.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Toonami marathons AoT July 1st....this means the Champa arc is now pushed back 3 weeks to when it was supposed to start. Fantastic...

[Footlong Shoe]

Toonami does marathons. I understand the frustration but this is something we're going to have to get used to. It's not the first time and it definitely won't be the last time that we get a slight delay.

[Boo Machine]

Yeah. I share the feeling of wanting the dub to reach the new martial as fast as possible but delays and or breaks are to be expected. Dragonball Super isn't Toonamis only show so sometimes other shows are going to get more attention.

[Nejishiki]

Is this truly considered a delay? Aren't these Toonami schedules crafted well ahead of their air dates, implicating awareness of general audiences? I'm seeking clarification if any statement, regarding Champa arc's debut, guaranteed a set date. If not, I don't think there's any foul present. It's not as if Fuji TV's broadcasts are always weekly either.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Is this truly considered a delay? Aren't these Toonami schedules crafted well ahead of their air dates, implicating awareness of general audiences? I'm seeking clarification if any statement, regarding Champa arc's debut, guaranteed a set date. If not, I don't think there's any foul present. It's not as if Fuji TV's broadcasts are always weekly either.

Well no marathons are announced well in advance regardless if they planned it then or not so yes expecting Super to air every Saturday at 8/11pm should be expected.

What's frustrating is Super, airs twice a night the 8pm should be left alone if Toonami wants to do marathons. It's absolutely different to FujiTV.

[Boo Machine]

"Delay" might have been the wrong word to choose, but I think the use of the word here is meant to say that it's not coming as soon as we expected. I don't think anyone is actually saying there is foul play or mis-scheduling.

I'm just unaware of what other word to use besides delay right now.

[Nejishiki]

Sure, I understand expectations may be formed. The overall point I'm reaching is that there's precedence for Toonami's scheduling, pre-dating Dragon Ball Kai & Dragon Ball Super. Perhaps one may find it unrealistic to expect a particular standard granted for our series when, to my knowledge, a standard for sudden change doesn't exist for anything else on their roster (it's internally consistent). We may have Dragon Ball marathons in the future, too (featuring one new episode) & I'm sure groups may find issue with that.

[Marlowe89]

Hopefully this is the appropriate thread to comment on this, but I hope I'm not the first person to say I actually vastly prefer Schemmel's base Black voice over his Rose one.

That's not to say I don't have some criticisms for base Black's voice - at times it's way too scratchy and gruff for my liking - and I don't even necessarily have a problem with the overall change in tone and pitch for the Rose transformation, but the random British accent definitely kills the vibe for me. It's just so jarring because it comes out of nowhere and isn't consistent with Zamasu in any of his other incarnations. I hope that for the show they can find a nice middle ground between the two voices that doesn't involve sudden left-field shifts in mannerism like this.

[Footlong Shoe]

Hopefully this is the appropriate thread to comment on this, but I hope I'm not the first person to say I actually vastly prefer Schemmel's base Black voice over his Rose one.

That's not to say I don't have some criticisms for base Black's voice - at times it's way too scratchy and gruff for my liking - and I don't even necessarily have a problem with the overall change in tone and pitch for the Rose transformation, but the random British accent definitely kills the vibe for me. It's just so jarring because it comes out of nowhere and isn't consistent with Zamasu in any of his other incarnations. I hope that for the show they can find a nice middle ground between the two voices that doesn't involve sudden left-field shifts in mannerism like this.

It's also important that he has the same voice in both forms. There's no reason for the sudden change when he transforms.

[DB_Fan1991]

Toonami marathons AoT July 1st....this means the Champa arc is now pushed back 3 weeks to when it was supposed to start. Fantastic...

That blows big time. This is Toei's fault really as if they would get with times and allow simuldubs we wouldn't be as far behind as we are. By the way I have a feeling that the last episode we see this year will be 46 as it makes sense to start 2018 with the Trunks arc.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Toonami marathons AoT July 1st....this means the Champa arc is now pushed back 3 weeks to when it was supposed to start. Fantastic...

That blows big time. This is Toei's fault really as if they would get with times and allow simuldubs we wouldn't be as far behind as we are. By the way I have a feeling that the last episode we see this year will be 46 as it makes sense to start 2018 with the Trunks arc.

The fault absolutely is with Toei and this dumbass TV deal they want, this isn't 2000 anymore heck it ain't even 2010 anymore with Kai1.0, the fact that Kai 2.0 took forever to get slotted on a station should have been a warning sign to Toei but nope. They should have licensed the show to FUNi a year later and then have them release 12-13 ep BDs/stream on FUNiNow every couple of months like they're other big shows and things would be good. But no Toei have to be extra, it's now why the UK is completely without Super but we're getting toys cuz kids definitely watch a subbed simulcast!

[NintendoBlaze53]

Toei is the company that forced 4Kids to take One Piece when 4Kids just wanted another show they had, despite Funimation and Viz both bidding for it. Nothing they do will ever be as stupid as that, it's just a shame to see they haven't learnt anything.

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

Toei is the company that forced 4Kids to take One Piece when 4Kids just wanted another show they had, despite Funimation and Viz both bidding for it. Nothing they do will ever be as stupid as that, it's just a shame to see they haven't learnt anything.

Being honest though, 4Kids could have turned down the package deal