"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

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Post by Simere » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:02 pm

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BlueBasilisk wrote:All the scenes with Pan are incredibly heartwarming. I forgot how much I loved this episode. But man, Goku is one colossal asshole! :lol:
How is Goku a colossal asshole here?
The way he was throwing shade at Bulma when he accidentally appeared in her bedroom. There was also some of it between him and King Kai. It was played purely for comedy of course.
Not that it wasn't funny, but I didn't like that translation. In the original it was just a callback to the Zuno/Jaco gag, and the way Goku said it was more neutral. He probably doesn't even know why it'd be insulting. The dub made it sound like he had a problem with it, that he'd otherwise be interested.

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Post by HeroR » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:35 am

Simere wrote:
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How is Goku a colossal asshole here?
The way he was throwing shade at Bulma when he accidentally appeared in her bedroom. There was also some of it between him and King Kai. It was played purely for comedy of course.
Not that it wasn't funny, but I didn't like that translation. In the original it was just a callback to the Zuno/Jaco gag, and the way Goku said it was more neutral. He probably doesn't even know why it'd be insulting. The dub made it sound like he had a problem with it, that he'd otherwise be interested.
Well, he did try to give her boobs to Old Kai and complimented them for their bounce. He even said he didn't pick Chi-Chi since there is no bounce left in her anymore.
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Post by puar » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:36 am

And btw diffrent subject but i think the goku black ssj rose voice from xenoverse 2 is terrible. If that is the voice we get were fucked

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Post by mint0h » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:57 pm

Credits for Episode 43 show Arale being voiced by Brina Palencia (Puar, Chiaotzu). She voiced Arale in Budokai Tenkaichi 3, whereas Linda Young voiced her in original Dragon Ball's dub.

If it was in doubt, Brina will likely be voicing her for the upcoming Dr. Slump crossover episode.

Senbei Norimaki was voiced in the original Dragon Ball by the now retired Brice Armstrong, so expect a new person (likely R. Bruce Elliot) to take that role.

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Post by Thesagebeast » Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:47 pm

:eh: I can't believe everyone thought this episode was canon at one point , this episode was completely unnecessary.

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Post by HeroR » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:06 pm

Thesagebeast wrote::eh: I can't believe everyone thought this episode was canon at one point , this episode was completely unnecessary.
It is 'canon' and the episode explained why Goku didn't used the Kaioken until the second to last episode of the Future Trunks Saga.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:50 pm

HeroR wrote:
Thesagebeast wrote::eh: I can't believe everyone thought this episode was canon at one point , this episode was completely unnecessary.
It is 'canon' and the episode explained why Goku didn't used the Kaioken until the second to last episode of the Future Trunks Saga.
Plus further adds characterisation to Gohan (turning job down for his family), showcases the talent of baby Pan. But no fighting so must be filler and not necessary. Can't have Goku having moments of self reflection.
If we just got from A to B we'll get something patchy and unwhole like the DBS manga, Goku's relationship with Hit is non-existent in the Manga for example.
Furthermore this episode brings up #1 with the Zenny so this is all happening in the same continuity, nothing is contradicting anything there is no "filler".

Plus it also explains why Goku still only uses KK in patches instead of full on how did against Hit in #39/40.

It is funny without this episode you'd have people whining why Goku isn't using KK crazily like he did in those episodes "oh this is fake tension this battle will be over if Goku went KK properly".

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Post by Scsigs » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:40 pm

Thesagebeast wrote::eh: I can't believe everyone thought this episode was canon at one point , this episode was completely unnecessary.
What part of this comes off as "noncanon" to you?
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Post by puar » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:54 am

HeroR wrote:
Thesagebeast wrote::eh: I can't believe everyone thought this episode was canon at one point , this episode was completely unnecessary.
It is 'canon' and the episode explained why Goku didn't used the Kaioken until the second to last episode of the Future Trunks Saga.
It still dosent make it canon

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Post by NintendoBlaze53 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:53 am

Why is this.... It IS canon, every single episode of Dragon Ball Super is canon to the Dragon Ball Super canon. There is no one canon for everything Dragon Ball. Why can't anime fans understand this? For comic fans it's easy, just use the Multi-Earth theory for DC meaning everything is canon to it's own universe and there is no one true canon, this is the exact same thing. Dragon Ball Super has no filler and it has no "non-canon" episodes.
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Post by HeroR » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:44 am

puar wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Thesagebeast wrote::eh: I can't believe everyone thought this episode was canon at one point , this episode was completely unnecessary.
It is 'canon' and the episode explained why Goku didn't used the Kaioken until the second to last episode of the Future Trunks Saga.
It still dosent make it canon
Yes it does since it's 'canon' to the anime.


Seriously, something being 'canon' isn't based on you liking it.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by puar » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:36 am

HeroR wrote:
puar wrote:
HeroR wrote:
It is 'canon' and the episode explained why Goku didn't used the Kaioken until the second to last episode of the Future Trunks Saga.
It still dosent make it canon
Yes it does since it's 'canon' to the anime.


Seriously, something being 'canon' isn't based on you liking it.
filler = episode that in between diffrent arcs. this episode is filler because its between arcs period. thats not something debatable its a fact

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Post by HeroR » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:41 am

puar wrote:
filler = episode that in between diffrent arcs. this episode is filler because its between arcs period. thats not something debatable its a fact
Filler means, filling time or stuff happening that has no consequences on the main story. This isn't filler since Goku not using the Kaioken until the second to last episode of the Future Trunks Saga is an important story point.

What you described is your personal definition of filler, not a fact.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by puar » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:26 pm

HeroR wrote:
puar wrote:
filler = episode that in between diffrent arcs. this episode is filler because its between arcs period. thats not something debatable its a fact
Filler means, filling time or stuff happening that has no consequences on the main story. This isn't filler since Goku not using the Kaioken until the second to last episode of the Future Trunks Saga is an important story point.

What you described is your personal definition of filler, not a fact.
thats not an importent story point at all. you also dont have a proof that this is the reason he dident used the kaioken. 0 proof to that. that was a filler episode period

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Post by HeroR » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:45 pm

puar wrote:
thats not an importent story point at all. you also dont have a proof that this is the reason he dident used the kaioken. 0 proof to that. that was a filler episode period
It is since Goku could have beating Black easily with the Kaioken, especially the Kaioken x10. It was outright said in the episode that Goku overusing the Kaioken and pushing himself made him severely sick and it could crippled him if he get careless again. So what do you mean I have zero proof?
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
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Post by puar » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:37 pm

HeroR wrote:
puar wrote:
thats not an importent story point at all. you also dont have a proof that this is the reason he dident used the kaioken. 0 proof to that. that was a filler episode period
It is since Goku could have beating Black easily with the Kaioken, especially the Kaioken x10. It was outright said in the episode that Goku overusing the Kaioken and pushing himself made him severely sick and it could crippled him if he get careless again. So what do you mean I have zero proof?
So why it dosent cripple him in the TOP? According to the episode it was because he fought a lot. Not because the kaioken. The word kaioken was not mentioned even once

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Post by HeroR » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:51 pm

puar wrote: So why it dosent cripple him in the TOP? According to the episode it was because he fought a lot. Not because the kaioken. The word kaioken was not mentioned even once
Because he has gotten used to doing it. The TOP takes place over a year after the Champa Saga, while the Future Trunks Saga happens at best weeks afterwards.

The episode said that he got sick because he used his ki in a excessive and unusual way and we see Goku have a flashback to the Kaioken x10. King King then confirmed it was the Kaioken and the way he fought Hit.

To say that word Kaioken wasn't mention even once is also an outright lie. Goku mentions the Kaioken at 6:11 in the episode and King Kai mentions it at 8:20 and 8:39. Not to mention the freaking flashback of Goku using the Kaioken x10. Seriously, did you even watch the episode?
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Post by puar » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:14 pm

HeroR wrote:
puar wrote: So why it dosent cripple him in the TOP? According to the episode it was because he fought a lot. Not because the kaioken. The word kaioken was not mentioned even once
Because he has gotten used to doing it. The TOP takes place over a year after the Champa Saga, while the Future Trunks Saga happens at best weeks afterwards.

The episode said that he got sick because he used his ki in a excessive and unusual way and we see Goku have a flashback to the Kaioken x10. King King then confirmed it was the Kaioken and the way he fought Hit.

To say that word Kaioken wasn't mention even once is also an outright lie. Goku mentions the Kaioken at 6:11 in the episode and King Kai mentions it at 8:20 and 8:39. Not to mention the freaking flashback of Goku using the Kaioken x10. Seriously, did you even watch the episode?
Between the moment goku used the kaioken against zamasu and the tournament of power are weeks. Goku couldent get used to it so easly and quickly

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Post by OmegaRockman » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:19 pm

puar wrote:
HeroR wrote:
puar wrote: So why it dosent cripple him in the TOP? According to the episode it was because he fought a lot. Not because the kaioken. The word kaioken was not mentioned even once
Because he has gotten used to doing it. The TOP takes place over a year after the Champa Saga, while the Future Trunks Saga happens at best weeks afterwards.

The episode said that he got sick because he used his ki in a excessive and unusual way and we see Goku have a flashback to the Kaioken x10. King King then confirmed it was the Kaioken and the way he fought Hit.

To say that word Kaioken wasn't mention even once is also an outright lie. Goku mentions the Kaioken at 6:11 in the episode and King Kai mentions it at 8:20 and 8:39. Not to mention the freaking flashback of Goku using the Kaioken x10. Seriously, did you even watch the episode?
Between the moment goku used the kaioken against zamasu and the tournament of power are weeks. Goku couldent get used to it so easly and quickly
It's not. Bulma goes from not pregnant to about to give birth from the Black arc to the Tournament arc. At least 9 months have passed.
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Post by puar » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:23 pm

OmegaRockman wrote:
puar wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Because he has gotten used to doing it. The TOP takes place over a year after the Champa Saga, while the Future Trunks Saga happens at best weeks afterwards.

The episode said that he got sick because he used his ki in a excessive and unusual way and we see Goku have a flashback to the Kaioken x10. King King then confirmed it was the Kaioken and the way he fought Hit.

To say that word Kaioken wasn't mention even once is also an outright lie. Goku mentions the Kaioken at 6:11 in the episode and King Kai mentions it at 8:20 and 8:39. Not to mention the freaking flashback of Goku using the Kaioken x10. Seriously, did you even watch the episode?
Between the moment goku used the kaioken against zamasu and the tournament of power are weeks. Goku couldent get used to it so easly and quickly
It's not. Bulma goes from not pregnant to about to give birth from the Black arc to the Tournament arc. At least 9 months have passed.
Woman belly become noticible only near the end of pregnency. She could have gotten pregnant even before the black arc

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