"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

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Post by Lord Frieza » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:55 pm

NintendoBlaze53 wrote:Like THAT James Marsters? Spike and Piccolo James Marsters? Has he ever even been in an anime before?
none that I know of but he has done voice work. He was Lex Luther in Superman: Doomsday and DC Universe Online, 2 spiderman series and a series of audio books off the top of my head.
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Post by Lord Frieza » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:00 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Yeah... I'm... not digging what I've heard from English dub of Zamasu so far, to be brutally honest. I appreciate the effort being put in to making the character sound regal, youthful and composed, but the delivery just sounds too stilted. I hope what we get in Super is better than this.
Well as I always say, Just like Beerus and Whis in Battle of Z the voice actors have had zero time to work on and perfect the voices. They get the rightish voices and just have to roll with it. I expect them to have worked out the kinks by the time Super gets that far.

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Post by Scsigs » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:21 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Zamasu is James Marsters 90% sure!!!!

https://youtu.be/V0Dt3Kpdgac

What a casting. Unbelievable.
Really? That's who you suspect? I looked up his filmography &, while he's no stranger to voice acting, he hasn't done any anime voice acting, so it's kind of unlikely.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:38 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Ya'll need to realise this is just a video game, they are literally just reading lines.
It's a fair thing to take into account, no doubt, but can we really write off criticism on that basis? Obviously not. The only context we have for the new voices aren't good, so we're going to say that they aren't good. Will they get better later? Almost certainly, but this isn't later, this is now, and now is not good for these voices.
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Post by VejituhTheWarriorGuy » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:43 pm

Scsigs wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Zamasu is James Marsters 90% sure!!!!

https://youtu.be/V0Dt3Kpdgac

What a casting. Unbelievable.
Really? That's who you suspect? I looked up his filmography &, while he's no stranger to voice acting, he hasn't done any anime voice acting, so it's kind of unlikely.
He said that he was working with Sabat back in December
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Post by DasMuse » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:31 pm

So why does SS Rose Goku Black have a British accent, while Zamasu nor his base form do not?

Don't get me wrong, I love that voice for Black, but Zamasu should have a similar accent for that to make sense.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:41 pm

Scsigs wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Zamasu is James Marsters 90% sure!!!!

https://youtu.be/V0Dt3Kpdgac

What a casting. Unbelievable.
Really? That's who you suspect? I looked up his filmography &, while he's no stranger to voice acting, he hasn't done any anime voice acting, so it's kind of unlikely.
Yup evidence is overwhelming:
a) Him and Sabat have worked on something.
b) It sounds exactly like him.
c) Marsters recently followed Schemmel and MacFarland and vice versa.
d) Explains the fact that unlike Champa and Vados the streamers were NDA'd and no announcement was made about the casting.
e) Sabat told Geekdom he wouldn't believe who they got to play Zamasu and Marsters certainly fits that category.

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Post by Scsigs » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:18 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Scsigs wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Zamasu is James Marsters 90% sure!!!!

https://youtu.be/V0Dt3Kpdgac

What a casting. Unbelievable.
Really? That's who you suspect? I looked up his filmography &, while he's no stranger to voice acting, he hasn't done any anime voice acting, so it's kind of unlikely.
Yup evidence is overwhelming:
a) Him and Sabat have worked on something.
b) It sounds exactly like him.
c) Marsters recently followed Schemmel and MacFarland and vice versa.
d) Explains the fact that unlike Champa and Vados the streamers were NDA'd and no announcement was made about the casting.
e) Sabat told Geekdom he wouldn't believe who they got to play Zamasu and Marsters certainly fits that category.
I guess. It's certainly out of left field, that's for sure.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:55 pm

Well, if it really is James Masters voicing Zamasu... at least they got a someone who is fan of Dragon Ball. So let's hope he take into account feedback and improves his performance.

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Post by TheAldella » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:23 pm

Jason Douglas in that Battle of Z clip is truly terrible in comparison.
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Post by MajinMan » Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:56 pm

So I turned on the English voices to check out Zamasu's and Goku Black's voices...

Schemmel is god awful. His regular Black voice is SO bad that I am legit surprised they let him use that voice. His Rosé voice is also COMPLETELY different for no reason. It sounds like a different person. It also sounds pretty awkward by using a forced British accent, but it is nowhere near as bad as base form Black. If Schemmel doesn't change things in the actual anime, then I pity the dub-only fans that will have to go through that terrible voice.

Zamasu I think is at an OK place. The voice is decent. I don't have much to say about him other than he's not amazing or bad.

Overall, color me disappointed. The "it's just a video game" excuse doesn't apply here because Schemmel himself said that he gave the Rosé form a completely different voice because he had more flamboyant lines compared to his base form appearances. That makes zero sense. Nobody grows a British accent out of nowhere. Hopefully they change their approach.
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Post by TRIZACK » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:31 pm

MajinMan wrote:So I turned on the English voices to check out Zamasu's and Goku Black's voices...

Schemmel is god awful. His regular Black voice is SO bad that I am legit surprised they let him use that voice. His Rosé voice is also COMPLETELY different for no reason. It sounds like a different person. It also sounds pretty awkward by using a forced British accent, but it is nowhere near as bad as base form Black. If Schemmel doesn't change things in the actual anime, then I pity the dub-only fans that will have to go through that terrible voice.

Zamasu I think is at an OK place. The voice is decent. I don't have much to say about him other than he's not amazing or bad.

Overall, color me disappointed. The "it's just a video game" excuse doesn't apply here because Schemmel himself said that he gave the Rosé form a completely different voice because he had more flamboyant lines compared to his base form appearances. That makes zero sense. Nobody grows a British accent out of nowhere. Hopefully they change their approach.
I agree on Base Black, when Xenoverse 2 first came out the little we heard of him I didn't care for but with his dialogue in the PQ's it's really bad. I really hope for Super he does not use this voice.

Zamasu's voice I like, it is not perfect but I think by the time the future arc comes around it will be even better.

Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black is definitly a step in the right direction although I think Schemmel should dial back slightly on the accent.

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Post by Scsigs » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:48 pm

Is there SERIOUSLY no announcement on who plays Zamasu yet? How long did it take for Champa & Vados' actors to get announced after the last DLC pack?

Black's Rose voice I wouldn't mind Schemmel using during Black's speeches in the show, but otherwise, a more smarmy version of his regular Goku voice, sans accent, is DEFINITELY the way to go for the character. Also, using SS4 for Black was just a bad decision, seeing as HIS SS4 voice is way different than Nozawa's.

What's confusing the fuck out of me is that Schemmel seems to consider the versions of Black different characters, which doesn't make any sense at all. What could be going on is that Sabat told him to talk in the accent for Rose to gauge reaction after the divided reception to his first Black voice. Could that be it?
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:03 pm

Scsigs wrote:Is there SERIOUSLY no announcement on who plays Zamasu yet?
We're already 95% sure it's James Marsters, we have plenty of evidence that seems to point that way. Official confirmation isn't really necessary at this point.
Scsigs wrote:What's confusing the fuck out of me is that Schemmel seems to consider the versions of Black different characters, which doesn't make any sense at all.
I don't think that's an honest interpretation on Schemmel's statements. He simply said that his new voice wasn't an update on the original Goku Black, but his transformation. While I originally interpreted this as Schemmel having a separate voice for the two states, I now think it's more likely that he was talking specifically in-game distinctions. As in, the voice for the original Goku Black slot didn't change, just the new form. Since he doesn't seem to be watching Super, it's understandable that he may not be able properly contextualize in discussions about the voice, and that's what I think happened.
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Post by Cursemark505 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:50 pm

I hope they get their shit together by the time this stuff comes up. I remember Hit's voice being awful as well.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:15 am

After listening to rosé, I am concerned for the dub..
Zamasu ain't marvellous either, it barely makes average...
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Post by NeciFiX » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:20 am

Their voices are terrible. Black sounds like Sean Schemmel smoked a pack of cigarettes, and Zamasu and Hit are pretty atrocious as well.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:54 am

TheAldella wrote:Jason Douglas in that Battle of Z clip is truly terrible in comparison.
So was Schemmel's SSG, but let people overreact it's what the fandom does best, certainly not using logic.
These voices are for Xenoverse 2 not Dragon Ball Super .

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Post by DBZ_Lee » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:13 am

I'm sure that at least *some* of the Black Arc characters were recorded before the Arc began, with no reference whatsoever.
I personally don't have an issue with what I've heard up to now.
I just hope we get to see the dub soon, though I doubt it will happen until next year, unless this secret Fornever and BardockObama are keeping hush is a Simuldub.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:23 am

DBZ_Lee wrote:I'm sure that at least *some* of the Black Arc characters were recorded before the Arc began, with no reference whatsoever.
I personally don't have an issue with what I've heard up to now.
I just hope we get to see the dub soon, though I doubt it will happen until next year, unless this secret Fornever and BardockObama are keeping hush is a Simuldub.
Yeah Schemmel's Base Black was recorded before the arc began in Japan.
As for the "secret" who knows at this point, it wasn't about the BD release it isn't about Marsters since someone tweeted Forneverworld telling him sorry Mercer implying Fornever wanted him and therefore wasn't wary about Marsters. FUNi announced the rest of their SD's yesterday so ship has sailed on a U.S arc SD (that was unlikely to begin with) the only thing left to assume is that it might be the Trunks arc being streamed sometime, Sabat said that Schemmel's Black voice is still in the works but he can't discuss any futher other than we'll like it. But only a month or so ago he was openly talking about translations for the Trunks arc.... Hmm...

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