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Post by TheMikado » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:42 pm

SaiyanGod117 wrote:There serval factors for why Super's rating aren't where there should. The two main reasons is because it's content that people have already seen before and frankly has no rewatch whatsoever, except for a few scenes and episodes. Though the major one is it's time slot, a lot of people don't have any interest at watching old or new Super episodes at 11:30 p.m.
There's an 8PM time slot.

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SaiyanGod117 wrote:There serval factors for why Super's rating aren't where there should. The two main reasons is because it's content that people have already seen before and frankly has no rewatch whatsoever, except for a few scenes and episodes. Though the major one is it's time slot, a lot of people don't have any interest at watching old or new Super episodes at 11:30 p.m.
There's an 8PM time slot.
Which has no promotion, a big reason why DBZ ratings were so good was because of Cartoonnetworks constant promotion for it. Seeing that DBZ has so much demand behind it, they knew the promotion would pay off and DBZ would be able to pull in the big numbers. Super's 8PM slot I think has none and its lead-ins are reruns and again most people have already seen the episodes. I think it would have been better to stream the dub instead of broadcasting it, and Toei really shot themselves in the foot when they didn't release DB Super internationally.

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Post by ckal9 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:39 pm

TheMikado wrote: Thats an old quote so an example for these numbers would be as follows.
For example, Dragon Ball Super at 11:30 was watched in 1,054,000 households. Of those households, 666,000 of them were in the demographic of 18-49, which is also represented in the rating 0.52.
Ohhh, I see. Thank you for the concise break down. I looked a few pages for the explanation you provided before asking but didn't see it.

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Faisal Shourov wrote:Super is getting owned by Samurai Jack. That's pretty sad. Didn't Funimation do any marketing for Super?
Uh remember, Super still airs before at 8 PM EST. Viewers who already watched the 8 PM airing may not want to watch the 11:30 PM airing again. We all have to take that factor into consideration.
Exactly if we assume that people who did watch at 8 didn't at 11.30 then DBS has 1867.

Super is doing well. Smh why people think otherwise.

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Faisal Shourov wrote:Super is getting owned by Samurai Jack. That's pretty sad. Didn't Funimation do any marketing for Super?
Uh remember, Super still airs before at 8 PM EST. Viewers who already watched the 8 PM airing may not want to watch the 11:30 PM airing again. We all have to take that factor into consideration.
Exactly if we assume that people who did watch at 8 didn't at 11.30 then DBS has 1867.

Super is doing well. Smh why people think otherwise.
Because the ratings are there for analysis. I have no idea what Toonami's expectation was for DBS, but you don't put two showings of the same show on unless your expect big numbers.
Personally I expected a combined of close to 3 million. Right now the show is sub 1 million per show average. The 8PM show is dragging its overall ratings considerably.

By contrast you look at something like Family Guy which just doing reruns over two shows is doing 2367, almost half a million more of two reruns. You can't really use the streaming excuse because Family Guy has been available to stream a ton of places and different channels. But even forgetting Family Guy you have reruns of Bob's Burger at 730 and then 2 shows of Rick & Morty doing a combine 1633 and one even beating out the 8PM show in ratings ... vs. a brand new Dragon Ball series.
Shoot, we have Samurai Jack, which is arguably more obscure and no where near the success of the Dragonball Franchise. Remember the entirety of Marvel was purchased for 4 Billion and Dragonball Franchise sales alone are over 5 Billion, financially speaking the DB Franchise may be worth more then the entirety of the Marvel universe which says A LOT. So the question isn't whether the numbers are good for ANY show, its whether the numbers are good FOR A NEW DRAGON BALL SERIES. I've been arguing for sometime now that there is an expected ratings which the content provider would expect DBS to hit, I have no idea what it is. We could be below it, we could be well above it. Because of the nature of the show, its likely the expectations were relatively high. I would think at least Samurai Jack levels. However, I have no idea. The point I'm making is that its likely, for a new Dragon Ball series, the expectations were/are likely higher.

No one is saying its going to get cancelled or doing poorly. But I will repeat myself for the upteenth time. I do not think Super appeals to US and western audiences the way the original did, and the ratings will reflect this, and it will under perform expectations. That's all. Period. If you don't agree with that just say so. I'm giving my reasons and evidence and we get weekly data to watch trends and do analysis on.

TIME PROGRAM HH Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
8:00 Dragon Ball Super 0.49 821 0.34 442
8:30 Bob’s Burgers (r) 0.42 730 0.27 351
9:00 Rick & Morty (r) 0.50 848 0.36 462
9:30 Rick & Morty (r) 0.48 785 0.34 435
10:00 Family Guy (r) 0.66 1094 0.47 603
10:30 Family Guy (r) 0.79 1273 0.60 773


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TIME PROGRAM Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
11:00 Samurai Jack 1352 0.66 852
11:30 Dragon Ball Super 1066 0.51 652
12:00a Sand Whale and Me 1018 0.51 661
12:05a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 1074 0.54 694

12:30a JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure 938 0.51 650
1:00a Tokyo Ghoul (p) 879 0.44 570
1:30a Hunter X Hunter 805 0.41 526
2:00a Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 720 0.38 487
2:30a Naruto: Shippuden 643 0.32 407
3:00a Ghost in the Shell (r) 499 0.24 302

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Re: Dragon Ball Super USA Adult Swim and Toonami Ratings

Post by superfan2024 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:22 pm

TheMikado wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
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Uh remember, Super still airs before at 8 PM EST. Viewers who already watched the 8 PM airing may not want to watch the 11:30 PM airing again. We all have to take that factor into consideration.
Exactly if we assume that people who did watch at 8 didn't at 11.30 then DBS has 1867.

Super is doing well. Smh why people think otherwise.
Because the ratings are there for analysis. I have no idea what Toonami's expectation was for DBS, but you don't put two showings of the same show on unless your expect big numbers.
Personally I expected a combined of close to 3 million. Right now the show is sub 1 million per show average. The 8PM show is dragging its overall ratings considerably.

By contrast you look at something like Family Guy which just doing reruns over two shows is doing 2367, almost half a million more of two reruns. You can't really use the streaming excuse because Family Guy has been available to stream a ton of places and different channels. But even forgetting Family Guy you have reruns of Bob's Burger at 730 and then 2 shows of Rick & Morty doing a combine 1633 and one even beating out the 8PM show in ratings ... vs. a brand new Dragon Ball series.
Shoot, we have Samurai Jack, which is arguably more obscure and no where near the success of the Dragonball Franchise. Remember the entirety of Marvel was purchased for 4 Billion and Dragonball Franchise sales alone are over 5 Billion, financially speaking the DB Franchise may be worth more then the entirety of the Marvel universe which says A LOT. So the question isn't whether the numbers are good for ANY show, its whether the numbers are good FOR A NEW DRAGON BALL SERIES. I've been arguing for sometime now that there is an expected ratings which the content provider would expect DBS to hit, I have no idea what it is. We could be below it, we could be well above it. Because of the nature of the show, its likely the expectations were relatively high. I would think at least Samurai Jack levels. However, I have no idea. The point I'm making is that its likely, for a new Dragon Ball series, the expectations were/are likely higher.

No one is saying its going to get cancelled or doing poorly. But I will repeat myself for the upteenth time. I do not think Super appeals to US and western audiences the way the original did, and the ratings will reflect this, and it will under perform expectations. That's all. Period. If you don't agree with that just say so. I'm giving my reasons and evidence and we get weekly data to watch trends and do analysis on.

TIME PROGRAM HH Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
8:00 Dragon Ball Super 0.49 821 0.34 442
8:30 Bob’s Burgers (r) 0.42 730 0.27 351
9:00 Rick & Morty (r) 0.50 848 0.36 462
9:30 Rick & Morty (r) 0.48 785 0.34 435
10:00 Family Guy (r) 0.66 1094 0.47 603
10:30 Family Guy (r) 0.79 1273 0.60 773


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TIME PROGRAM Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
11:00 Samurai Jack 1352 0.66 852
11:30 Dragon Ball Super 1066 0.51 652
12:00a Sand Whale and Me 1018 0.51 661
12:05a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 1074 0.54 694

12:30a JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure 938 0.51 650
1:00a Tokyo Ghoul (p) 879 0.44 570
1:30a Hunter X Hunter 805 0.41 526
2:00a Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 720 0.38 487
2:30a Naruto: Shippuden 643 0.32 407
3:00a Ghost in the Shell (r) 499 0.24 302
No, I think your getting confused here. You can't combine the ratings for Rick & Morty and Family Guy because those are 2 completely different episodes for each show. Not only that, but no one knows which specific viewers started or stopped watching the 2nd airing of each individual show. Combining the ratings for both airings and claiming that that's the ratings is inaccurate.

The same goes with Super, even though both of it's airings are the same.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super USA Adult Swim and Toonami Ratings

Post by TheMikado » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:13 pm

I wasn't the one combining them originally, I was merely stating even if you wanted to view the metrics that way, which for obvious reasons you can't, the totality of running New episodes of Super does not necessarily mean it would beat out something like rerun episodes of family guy in ratings of it ran in that slot instead. I'm just showing, ratings wise, Super is not the largest ratings show of the night.

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TIME PROGRAM HH Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
8:00 Dragon Ball Super 0.44 704 0.26 337
8:30 Bob’s Burgers (r) 0.39 586 0.25 324
9:00 Rick & Morty (r) 0.44 687 0.31 399
9:30 Rick & Morty (r) 0.49 800 0.39 497
10:00 Family Guy (r) 0.68 1057 0.52 669
10:30 Family Guy (r) 0.81 1246 0.61 787

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TIME PROGRAM Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
11:00 Samurai Jack 1335 0.66 841
11:30 Dragon Ball Super (r) 1132 0.56 719
12:00a Sand Whale and Me 1036 0.51 657
12:05a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 1012 0.49 629
12:30a JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure 783 0.39 499
1:00a Tokyo Ghoul 820 0.40 508
1:30a Hunter X Hunter 715 0.36 457
2:00a Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 576 0.30 388
2:30a Naruto: Shippuden 514 0.26 333
3:00a Ghost in the Shell (r) 508 0.27 340

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Lord Beerus wrote:TIME PROGRAM HH Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
8:00 Dragon Ball Super 0.44 704 0.26 337
8:30 Bob’s Burgers (r) 0.39 586 0.25 324
9:00 Rick & Morty (r) 0.44 687 0.31 399
9:30 Rick & Morty (r) 0.49 800 0.39 497
10:00 Family Guy (r) 0.68 1057 0.52 669
10:30 Family Guy (r) 0.81 1246 0.61 787

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TIME PROGRAM Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
11:00 Samurai Jack 1335 0.66 841
11:30 Dragon Ball Super (r) 1132 0.56 719
12:00a Sand Whale and Me 1036 0.51 657
12:05a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 1012 0.49 629
12:30a JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure 783 0.39 499
1:00a Tokyo Ghoul 820 0.40 508
1:30a Hunter X Hunter 715 0.36 457
2:00a Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 576 0.30 388
2:30a Naruto: Shippuden 514 0.26 333
3:00a Ghost in the Shell (r) 508 0.27 340
Attack on Titan comes the week after next correct? Toonami should be pretty solid for a while! Though I do wonder how the BDs will affect Kai.

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Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:TIME PROGRAM HH Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
8:00 Dragon Ball Super 0.44 704 0.26 337
8:30 Bob’s Burgers (r) 0.39 586 0.25 324
9:00 Rick & Morty (r) 0.44 687 0.31 399
9:30 Rick & Morty (r) 0.49 800 0.39 497
10:00 Family Guy (r) 0.68 1057 0.52 669
10:30 Family Guy (r) 0.81 1246 0.61 787

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TIME PROGRAM Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
11:00 Samurai Jack 1335 0.66 841
11:30 Dragon Ball Super (r) 1132 0.56 719
12:00a Sand Whale and Me 1036 0.51 657
12:05a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 1012 0.49 629
12:30a JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure 783 0.39 499
1:00a Tokyo Ghoul 820 0.40 508
1:30a Hunter X Hunter 715 0.36 457
2:00a Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 576 0.30 388
2:30a Naruto: Shippuden 514 0.26 333
3:00a Ghost in the Shell (r) 508 0.27 340
Attack on Titan comes the week after next correct? Toonami should be pretty solid for a while! Though I do wonder how the BDs will affect Kai.
Attack on Titan will premiere on Toonami on April 29.

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Post by VejituhTheWarriorGuy » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:34 pm

2:30am slot is doing horribly but Super is doing very well
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VejituhTheWarriorGuy wrote:2:30am slot is doing horribly but Super is doing very well
Basically. I'm sick of the fear mongering in this thread and the other one. I'll never understand the wild emotions in the Japanese one considering DB super has been consistently around 6th or 7th place since the first few episodes. Nothing has changed or will ever change. It's in the top ten for all animes of the week. Even Naruto barely ever reached the top ten.

For the western side, there are TWO airings. Each of these airings are doing well. The family Guy episodes being re runs really doesn't matter that much. Family guy isn't a sequential show. Most people don't watch in order and most likely don't even notice it's a re run. Then there is the fact that they're different episodes unlike with super. Besides, Family guy is HUGE. It's nothing to be dissapointed by if Super doesn't beat it. Comparing it to DBZ is even worse. When DBZ was airing, the chances of people watching the up to date Japanese version or watching the episode online at a later time was much less.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super USA Adult Swim and Toonami Ratings

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VejituhTheWarriorGuy wrote:2:30am slot is doing horribly but Super is doing very well
Basically. I'm sick of the fear mongering in this thread and the other one. I'll never understand the wild emotions in the Japanese one considering DB super has been consistently around 6th or 7th place since the first few episodes. Nothing has changed or will ever change. It's in the top ten for all animes of the week. Even Naruto barely ever reached the top ten.

For the western side, there are TWO airings. Each of these airings are doing well. The family Guy episodes being re runs really doesn't matter that much. Family guy isn't a sequential show. Most people don't watch in order and most likely don't even notice it's a re run. Then there is the fact that they're different episodes unlike with super. Besides, Family guy is HUGE. It's nothing to be dissapointed by if Super doesn't beat it. Comparing it to DBZ is even worse. When DBZ was airing, the chances of people watching the up to date Japanese version or watching the episode online at a later time was much less.
It's probably best to put things in long term perspective, in Japan Super debuted in and stayed in its current spot so it has neither really gained nor lost viewership. It's not bringing more people in steadily as the time goes on nor is it losing people. It's doing just fine but not moving at all.

In the US it's ratings are much more fluid but a few things remain the same and need to be put in perspective. The only think Super is really competing against is that time slot. If something else can be shoved in there like Samarui Jack then they are losing ratings which means losing advertisers money. It's about bottom line not relative quality. That's said the 1130 show is doing just fine and historically equivalent to Attack on Titan. The only issue with this is that the Dragonball series when compared to Family Guy, Rick and Morty, Bobs Burger, even Samaurai Jack it is one of the highest grossing animated international Franchises in history far eclipsing Family Guy. So as stated particularly for the 8 slot, when you are running a very well known brand new series the expectations are slightly different. If they weren't they wouldn't have gotten two showings in the first place. Anyway the 8 time slot probably won't continue too much longer. I could see it being replaced with reruns of Rick and Morty/Bobs Burger or Family Guy which probably licensed for dirt cheap. Who knows, they could also try a test run of Samurai Jack in that slot and see how it performs. Anyway it's great interest is still there for the late showing of Super as well as Kai. If the 8 PM slot is changed I'd have to imagine that this was not as successful as they would have hoped. That's not a bad thing it just leads me to my belief that it doesn't resonate as well with American audience compared to Z.

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TheMikado wrote:
kinisking wrote:
VejituhTheWarriorGuy wrote:2:30am slot is doing horribly but Super is doing very well
Basically. I'm sick of the fear mongering in this thread and the other one. I'll never understand the wild emotions in the Japanese one considering DB super has been consistently around 6th or 7th place since the first few episodes. Nothing has changed or will ever change. It's in the top ten for all animes of the week. Even Naruto barely ever reached the top ten.

For the western side, there are TWO airings. Each of these airings are doing well. The family Guy episodes being re runs really doesn't matter that much. Family guy isn't a sequential show. Most people don't watch in order and most likely don't even notice it's a re run. Then there is the fact that they're different episodes unlike with super. Besides, Family guy is HUGE. It's nothing to be dissapointed by if Super doesn't beat it. Comparing it to DBZ is even worse. When DBZ was airing, the chances of people watching the up to date Japanese version or watching the episode online at a later time was much less.
It's probably best to put things in long term perspective, in Japan Super debuted in and stayed in its current spot so it has neither really gained nor lost viewership. It's not bringing more people in steadily as the time goes on nor is it losing people. It's doing just fine but not moving at all.

In the US it's ratings are much more fluid but a few things remain the same and need to be put in perspective. The only think Super is really competing against is that time slot. If something else can be shoved in there like Samarui Jack then they are losing ratings which means losing advertisers money. It's about bottom line not relative quality. That's said the 1130 show is doing just fine and historically equivalent to Attack on Titan. The only issue with this is that the Dragonball series when compared to Family Guy, Rick and Morty, Bobs Burger, even Samaurai Jack it is one of the highest grossing animated international Franchises in history far eclipsing Family Guy. So as stated particularly for the 8 slot, when you are running a very well known brand new series the expectations are slightly different. If they weren't they wouldn't have gotten two showings in the first place. Anyway the 8 time slot probably won't continue too much longer. I could see it being replaced with reruns of Rick and Morty/Bobs Burger or Family Guy which probably licensed for dirt cheap. Who knows, they could also try a test run of Samurai Jack in that slot and see how it performs. Anyway it's great interest is still there for the late showing of Super as well as Kai. If the 8 PM slot is changed I'd have to imagine that this was not as successful as they would have hoped. That's not a bad thing it just leads me to my belief that it doesn't resonate as well with American audience compared to Z.
A tv show doesn't need to gain viewers to be successful. It's already successful, DB super doesn't need any more viewers. DB is an established name, people who wanted to watch it would have done so early on.

Dragonball is far more popular than family Guy elsewhere but in the us it's far more debatable. Besides, family Guy doesn't have the problem that super has. Super has a Japanese version that's readily available and people would be more likely to watch even the dubbed DB super online than family Guy online. Family guy is the kind of thing that you watch when it's already on TV, it's not really something you seek out online. Samurai Jack is more of a competitor because of the similar method of story
telling.

That being said, if super's 8 pm showing gets replaced by family Guy or the other shows that were already there when super started airing then it's more worrying than if it got replaced by samurai Jack. If it gets replaced by samurai Jack, then they might just be trying a new time slot because a new show came out. If it gets replaced by family Guy or one of the old shows then it's probably underperforming. I don't think super will have it's 8 pm replaced in 2017 unless a new show comes out and I'm willing to bet on it.
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Post by TheMikado » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:34 pm

Depending on trends, if you the show tanks during the RoF arc I could definitely see them pull the 8PM show after summer.

I disagree on Family Guy because all these reruns have been available for streaming all over the place for years and in English for the American public. But it's not comparable in format. Super isn't unsuccessful for a new series. Not at all, but I'm not measuring it by that standard and I'm not sure if others are either. You don't give two timeslots of the same show to something that you expect to do just fine or average in ratings. Super is not a failure, but the lineup implies they were/are expecting big numbers. As far as its Japanese performance, my only comment is that it's not rotating at all. Literally nothing it does or any of the other showsseem to do affects the ratings at all. This means a core group tunes in week after week. Not a bad thing, but when compared to others which fluctuate based on the current story, it appears the appeal is beyond the core base if the story is interesting. Again not bad but incredibly static regards of whats happening.

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Post by rs_chaosmaster » Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:35 pm

I honestly don't think they can eliminate the 8pm timeslot as i believe that slot only exists because of Toei's desire to reach a younger audience. I am pretty sure that 8pm timeslot was needed for Toonami to get Super and if that is the case and their is legal obligation between Funi, CN, and Toei than that time slot isn't going anywhere!! It will be interesting to see if the ratings rise when they finally get to the U6 arc. :think:

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rs_chaosmaster wrote:I honestly don't think they can eliminate the 8pm timeslot as i believe that slot only exists because of Toei's desire to reach a younger audience. I am pretty sure that 8pm timeslot was needed for Toonami to get Super and if that is the case and their is legal obligation between Funi, CN, and Toei than that time slot isn't going anywhere!! It will be interesting to see if the ratings rise when they finally get to the U6 arc. :think:
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:16 pm

8:00 Dragon Ball Super 0.54 870 0.35 443

TOONAMI – SATURDAY, APRIL 15, 2017

Adult Swim PROGRAM Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
11:00 Samurai Jack 1297 0.66 848
11:30 Dragon Ball Super (r) 1000 0.50 647
12:00a Sand Whale and Me 881 0.43 549
12:05a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 924 0.45 577
12:30a JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure 829 0.42 535
1:00a JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure 747 0.36 464
1:30a Hunter X Hunter 687 0.33 422
2:00a Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 555 0.26 338
2:30a Naruto: Shippuden 562 0.26 339
3:00a Ghost in the Shell (r) 510 0.25 337


I'd say the first arc of DBS has been more than successful!

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Re: Dragon Ball Super USA Adult Swim and Toonami Ratings

Post by rs_chaosmaster » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:12 pm

Here is hoping that AOT2 can help solidify the later part of the block Hunter X Hunter is too good a show to be getting these abysmal ratings. I would say ratings for this week overall were down. :(

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Re: Dragon Ball Super USA Adult Swim and Toonami Ratings

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:18 pm

Cheers Baggie_Saiyan for posting the ratings! I haven't had the time to anything recently with work. I'll be on time next week.

I promise. :shifty:

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