kinisking wrote:
Him having to have piccolo protect him in Rof was definitely character regression.
It's not like he asked Piccolo for help, like he would in the past. That would perhaps had been classified as character regression if that was the scenario, but it wasn't. I mean, for intents and purposes, it seemed like he was gonna die at the hands of Freeza and Piccolo was there to bail him out. And after the event of the ROF arc, he wanted Piccolo to help him train so that he could become stronger and and could protect his family. And we're going to (hopefully) see the pay-off to that in the Tournament of Power. So his character has really moved forward since then..
Good points. I guess you're right.
I just hope the Universal Survival arc provides some closure for some of the characters. We have Krillin fighting for his family and getting back into martial arts seriously, Gohan going to display the fruits of his training following him previously prioritising his family over his strength in combat, 17 and 18 coming back in to the picture, Goku's morality being judged due to it being held in a different standard to other universes and (hopefully) Vegeta realising that he has even more to fight for with the birth of his new daughter.
The Universal Survival arc really has a lot going for it. Which is why, more than anything, I hope they don't fumble these promising subplots.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Technically, no one's really out-of-character just exaggerated traits/flanderized or derailed but Goku, Gohan, Chi-Chi, Videl, and Mr. Boo suffer the biggest cases of character assassination/regression in Super.
Only in BoG, because after that he is the same Mr Boo as in the end of Buu Saga/EoZ.
Videl kinda redeemed herself in the Barry Khan Mini Arc.
Gohan has gotten the most hype in the current ToP Arc since the Cell Saga, when was the last time he was excited in fighting?.
Steven Bloodriver wrote:Because of this wonky series, so many people are very confused about their favorite characters being portrayed as if the writers were friends with both Matt Groening and Seth MacFarlane or something. What are your thoughts about this?
What does this even mean ? Matt is/was a great writer, and while I'm not a huge fan of FG, Seth does some great work with "American Dad".
Anyway, probably Videl. It's not that she's out of character, she just seems a bit off.
I have borderline personality disorder, if my posts ever come off as aggressive or word vomit-y to you, please let me know.
Goku is not out of character. I would say nobody is out of character, there's something called character development. If everybody stays same it means the character is static
Toyotarō: … I get the feeling I’ve just heard something amazing (laughs). Lord Beerus and Whis turn up in Dragon Ball Super, and have become an unsurpassable wall for Goku and the gang. What do the two of them mean to you?
Toriyama: Well… First off, right now I don’t have any plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus and Whis.
Faisal Shourov wrote:Goku is not out of character. I would say nobody is out of character, there's something called character development. If everybody stays same it means the character is static
What about "Character Derailment"? If you don't know what that means, then here's a TV Tropes definition for you: "When an established character becomes largely different, exhibiting behavior contrary to what has been previously shown."
Faisal Shourov wrote:Goku is not out of character. I would say nobody is out of character, there's something called character development. If everybody stays same it means the character is static
What about "Character Derailment"? If you don't know what that means, then here's a TV Tropes definition for you: "When an established character becomes largely different, exhibiting behavior contrary to what has been previously shown."
Goku isn't nearly as stupid in Super as people are trying to make him out to be, and I can't think of any instances where any character has acted inconsistently to the point that they can be considered entirely different people without reasonable development.
Faisal Shourov wrote:Goku is not out of character. I would say nobody is out of character, there's something called character development. If everybody stays same it means the character is static