Doctor. wrote:A month has 4 full weeks. Toriyama only drew 15 pages in the first arc because Dragon Ball was a gag series then but as it evolved into an action series, he started doing 18 pages per week. That's 72 pages in a month.
Not saying you're wrong, but when did this change happen? I'm glancing through several volumes from the Cell Games to the Boo Arc, and most of the chapters seem to be around 15 pages. Most of them are actually a page or two less.
Just checked too and you're right. That's weird, I distinctly remember reading that somewhere, going to check for myself and seeing that the information was true. Guess my memory isn't as good as I thought.
Regardless, 15 pages per week is still 60 pages, which is considerably more than what Toyotaro does.
The gr wrote:
Forced tension because Vegeta had ssb and own maggetta Instead of wasting his time and lossing energy like a bufoon,if they want to make that match more tense,then make vegeta go ssb and have Maggie to be on par with that power
Vegeta said he didn't because he was saving it for Hit.
Doctor. wrote:
Yes, and by "adapt", he would have to simplify his art (like he's already been doing with his Super manga) and not put in as much detail into each panel as before. Nobody's saying it's gonna be awful but it's clear that there's going to be a quality drop.
His art panel-to-panel has been looking pretty consistent to me, even some of the most experienced mangaka have simplistic panels. It could be a stylistic choice and the work load can always be reduced with the help of assistants.
If you check his art back at the start of the Black arc and his art now, you'll notice a severe decrease in the number of screentones used, which are now mostly limited to the SSB hair and aura (I think he even stopped coloring Trunks' scarf at some point, but don't quote me on that). That tells us he's already trying to save time, it's the same thing Toriyama started doing after the first arc. It's not a stylistic choice if the rest of his manga shares an overabundance of screentone and stylistic choices can still be made to save time (for example, Toriyama choosing to have Goku's SSJ hair blonde).
Doctor. wrote:
If you check his art back at the start of the Black arc and his art now, you'll notice a severe decrease in the number of screentones used, which are now mostly limited to the SSB hair and aura (I think he even stopped coloring Trunks' scarf at some point, but don't quote me on that). That tells us he's already trying to save time, it's the same thing Toriyama started doing after the first arc. It's not a stylistic choice if the rest of his manga shares an overabundance of screentone and stylistic choices can still be made to save time (for example, Toriyama choosing to have Goku's SSJ hair blonde).
His art looks the exact same to me. I'm trying to notice the difference, but I just don't see it.
I wouldn't be surprised if Toriyama's partially responsible for the monthly schedule. It gives him longer to come up with ideas for the next arc, and because he hated how stressful writing the original series was, I doubt he would wish that upon Toyotaro. I don't think Toriyama would have the final say in this matter, but I'm sure his opinion would be valued.
batistabus wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Toriyama's partially responsible for the monthly schedule. It gives him longer to come up with ideas for the next arc, and because he hated how stressful writing the original series was, I doubt he would wish that upon Toyotaro. I don't think Toriyama would have the final say in this matter, but I'm sure his opinion would be valued.
It doesn't have anything to do with Toriyama. V-Jump is where Toyotaro's manga naturally belonged when it started, and even now, there's no other place where it would fit better,
batistabus wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Toriyama's partially responsible for the monthly schedule. It gives him longer to come up with ideas for the next arc, and because he hated how stressful writing the original series was, I doubt he would wish that upon Toyotaro. I don't think Toriyama would have the final say in this matter, but I'm sure his opinion would be valued.
It doesn't have anything to do with Toriyama. V-Jump is where Toyotaro's manga fit best when it started, and even now, there's no other place where it would fit better,
I understand that V-Jump is in charge, but the Dragon Ball Super manga relies on Toriyama's source material. That, and people tend to respect his opinion when he asserts himself (which doesn't seem to happen extremely often). Shueisha could have just as easily put it in Weekly Jump if they decided to. Either way, I'm just speculating.
batistabus wrote:Shueisha could have just as easily put it in Weekly Jump if they decided to.
Technically, they could have. It would just be a really dumb thing to do for the magazine's reputation, as well as a disservice to an original work that missed out because a sequel not even penned by the original creator is in the way.
I think for the purposes of the narrative yes, it would be better. But I also share the same concerns as other do in the thread that the quality of the art, which is Toyotaro's major highlight, would indeed suffer quite a lot.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
It would be irrelevant since it sucks. Toyataro is doing the same shit as dbgt, that is, everyone is garbage except saiyajins. Furthermore, Toyataro is not good enough to do a manga weekly.
