Will Vegeta simply be humiliated again?
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Humiliated? Probably not. He's not the toughest guy other than Goku in this tournament so there's no reason. If anyone's getting easily beaten by Jiren it's Hit. I can see Vegeta being overwhelmed by Brienne's sidekicks while he's fighting her in order to actually show why teamwork is important, though. I feel, however, if that's to happen, it will pretty early in the fight, with Gohan taking his role as second main guy.
Though, with Bra's birth being kind of important for him, he might not go down easily.
Not sure about anything of what I said, however. There's tons of possibilities and frankly I have no idea where this is going. I feel literally anything might happen and it wouldn't be far fetched.
Though, with Bra's birth being kind of important for him, he might not go down easily.
Not sure about anything of what I said, however. There's tons of possibilities and frankly I have no idea where this is going. I feel literally anything might happen and it wouldn't be far fetched.
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Re: Will Vegeta simply be humiliated again?
I think he will beat Caulifla and then get beat up by a enraged Kale. The toys suggested he might fight with Kale.
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We've had a lot of Goku time building up to this tournament. Vegeta will outlast Goku in this battle royale, and I'm leaning toward that he'll unveil something new (as will Goku). Whether it concludes in Vegeta being humiliated, I'm not sure. Previous series history tells us... very likely.
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I dont think he can be humiliated, he's probably the second or the third strongest member of the team.
I do think the will lose to the big center guy as a way to hype him up again, it'll either be Vegeta or Hit but even if that does happen I dont see it as him being humiliated . I'm counting on Goku,Freeza,Vegeta and Gohan being the last 4 on the team.
I do think the will lose to the big center guy as a way to hype him up again, it'll either be Vegeta or Hit but even if that does happen I dont see it as him being humiliated . I'm counting on Goku,Freeza,Vegeta and Gohan being the last 4 on the team.
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I honestly have no hope for anyone besides Goku this arc.
This was just executed poorly, imo. I was hyped as f#ck for Piccolo and Ten Shin Han, but I have now accepted they will be treated as dog sh#t.
Just one more Goku and Freeza arc.
This was just executed poorly, imo. I was hyped as f#ck for Piccolo and Ten Shin Han, but I have now accepted they will be treated as dog sh#t.
Just one more Goku and Freeza arc.
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Freeza's really upstaging everybody, and I'm torn because it's bad to see everyone else pushed aside for Freeza, but they're writing him so well.
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How do you come to this conclusion? The tournament hasn't even started yet.Misirius wrote:I honestly have no hope for anyone besides Goku this arc.
This was just executed poorly, imo. I was hyped as f#ck for Piccolo and Ten Shin Han, but I have now accepted they will be treated as dog sh#t.
Just one more Goku and Freeza arc.
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He'll get humiliated by Caulifla, Freeza, Frost, Hit, Brianne de Chateau, Kale, and even Cell coming out of nowhere, all at the same time and kicking him in the dick. Then they toss him aside and resume the tournament fight. He hangs by the edge of the stage and accidentally looks at Ayy LMAO, ultimately geting the halo Freeza promised him.
Lame joking aside, he'll probably do OK against Brianne de Chateau, though he'll get cornered by her and her two friends. I can see him as one of the last fighters standing, but I don't expect he'll be the MVP.
Lame joking aside, he'll probably do OK against Brianne de Chateau, though he'll get cornered by her and her two friends. I can see him as one of the last fighters standing, but I don't expect he'll be the MVP.
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I actually wanted to make a thread about this. It kind of feels like Frieza has surpassed Vegeta in terms of power & role in the show. After Episode 95, it feels like Frieza is the primary rival to Goku and not Vegeta. The way Frieza is solely focused on defeating Goku is very reminiscent of Vegeta's obsession to beat Goku. But we haven't seen any of that obsession from Vegeta in this entire pre-ToP arc. Frieza has caught some major momentum from fans since he was a surprising inclusion while Vegeta has barely gotten any attention whatsoever. Don't be surprised if Vegeta regresses in terms of his standing among all characters after this tournament is over.Chuquita wrote:Freeza's really upstaging everybody, and I'm torn because it's bad to see everyone else pushed aside for Freeza, but they're writing him so well.
And just curious, what do you all think would constitute to Vegeta NOT being humiliated? Who would Vegeta have to beat for you to say, "Yea Vegeta got the spotlight and attention he deserves."? For me, if Vegeta takes down Hit or Caulifla, and then even gets beat by someone like Jiren, I think that would be a great showing for Vegeta's character.
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Vegeta will for sure earn that humiliation and all we got to do is sit back on our chairs with our legs crossed and wait in earnest patience for that moment to happen in the arc. Vegeta has turned into such a generic stubborn and thick headed numbskull character that I could even care less about his performance in the tournament. He's nothing short but "ORE NO BEJITA-SAMA, IMMA KICK SOME ASS ON MY OWN AND I THEE GOAT OF THE TEAM!!!!" It's not just Freeza that's somewhat shaking the team, but Vegeta as well for being an arrogant imbecile with an inflated ego and not cooperating with the tam, even though there's a chance of his family being erased from existence.
Hell, I wouldn't even mind seeing him get knocked off the stage by Brianne de Chateu, Caulifla, Jiren, or even Freeza shooting some death beams behind Vegeta's back and breaking down Vegeta's ego bit by bit like he did once back on Namek.
Hell, I wouldn't even mind seeing him get knocked off the stage by Brianne de Chateu, Caulifla, Jiren, or even Freeza shooting some death beams behind Vegeta's back and breaking down Vegeta's ego bit by bit like he did once back on Namek.
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Vegeta hasn't been Goku's primary rival since Resurrection 'F'.KingKaash wrote:I actually wanted to make a thread about this. It kind of feels like Frieza has surpassed Vegeta in terms of power & role in the show. After Episode 95, it feels like Frieza is the primary rival to Goku and not Vegeta. The way Frieza is solely focused on defeating Goku is very reminiscent of Vegeta's obsession to beat Goku. But we haven't seen any of that obsession from Vegeta in this entire pre-ToP arc. Frieza has caught some major momentum from fans since he was a surprising inclusion while Vegeta has barely gotten any attention whatsoever. Don't be surprised if Vegeta regresses in terms of his standing among all characters after this tournament is over.Chuquita wrote:Freeza's really upstaging everybody, and I'm torn because it's bad to see everyone else pushed aside for Freeza, but they're writing him so well.
And just curious, what do you all think would constitute to Vegeta NOT being humiliated? Who would Vegeta have to beat for you to say, "Yea Vegeta got the spotlight and attention he deserves."? For me, if Vegeta takes down Hit or Caulifla, and then even gets beat by someone like Jiren, I think that would be a great showing for Vegeta's character.
Actually, I would say Goku stopped being Vegeta's rival once Beerus came into the picture.
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This is one of the few arcs were everyone can get A big moment against an Opponent of relative strength to themselves. There is no reason for anyone to be humiliated. If Brianne is on par with Vegeta and he wins after a hard fought fight, and then gets destroyed by Jiren that's not humiliation. Even guys like Tenshinhan can beat people up and shine in this setting. Even being the first to get knocked out isn't so bad if you put in the work before you go. If Vegeta get embarrassed at some point, that's fine if he's positive contribution outweighs it. Some fans probably won't be be happy unless Vegeta beats Jiren, and I'm sorry for you, but you're asking too much probably. All I want is for every member of U7 to have contributed before they go out, and I'll be quite upset if any of them just get wrecked for no reason and without doing anything.
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Pretty much this. My only concern is any of the less seen U7 fighters(basically anyone outside Goku, Vegeta and I guess Frieza) get tarred with the Jobber brush to show how powerful even the weaker universes are when teaming up. If they can even knock out one other opponent, or even put in a good showing rather than just going down like a sack of spuds I'll feel fairly satisfied.Beyond wrote:This is one of the few arcs were everyone can get A big moment against an Opponent of relative strength to themselves. There is no reason for anyone to be humiliated. If Brianne is on par with Vegeta and he wins after a hard fought fight, and then gets destroyed by Jiren that's not humiliation. Even guys like Tenshinhan can beat people up and shine in this setting. Even being the first to get knocked out isn't so bad if you put in the work before you go. If Vegeta get embarrassed at some point, that's fine if he's positive contribution outweighs it. Some fans probably won't be be happy unless Vegeta beats Jiren, and I'm sorry for you, but you're asking too much probably. All I want is for every member of U7 to have contributed before they go out, and I'll be quite upset if any of them just get wrecked for no reason and without doing anything.
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Gotta agree with the above post. To some fans if you don't beat the biggest threat then you're getting treated like garbage. But only in DB does that apply.
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If getting beat up and tossed off the stage is humiliation, then the only person who won't be "humiliated" is the winner. If Vegeta takes out 5+ people of great strength before losing to, lets say, Jiren, I think that's a good showing. Unless Jiren only fights Vegeta and Goku, he should be delivering a beat down of the same magnitude to multiple people.
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My prediction.
There is an obvious tension between Goku and Caulifa.
They will fight with Goku injuring her.
Kale will go SSJ Berserk (Whatever they are calling LSSJ) after seeing this
Fem-Broly now has a motive for hyper focusing on "kakorrot"
Vegeta will get scared for some reason and utterly embarrassed by that berserk form as a homage to the original movie.
Everyone will be angry and we will have a 50 page thread on this topic and 6 other threads referencing these events.
There is an obvious tension between Goku and Caulifa.
They will fight with Goku injuring her.
Kale will go SSJ Berserk (Whatever they are calling LSSJ) after seeing this
Fem-Broly now has a motive for hyper focusing on "kakorrot"
Vegeta will get scared for some reason and utterly embarrassed by that berserk form as a homage to the original movie.
Everyone will be angry and we will have a 50 page thread on this topic and 6 other threads referencing these events.
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God Please! let this happen not for the people flippin out with "WHY MOAR BROLY HOMAGE!" but because I find it funny if it were to happen, as a finishing touch have Piccolo say "Deja Vu...."TheMikado wrote:My prediction.
There is an obvious tension between Goku and Caulifa.
They will fight with Goku injuring her.
Kale will go SSJ Berserk (Whatever they are calling LSSJ) after seeing this
Fem-Broly now has a motive for hyper focusing on "kakorrot"
Vegeta will get scared for some reason and utterly embarrassed by that berserk form as a homage to the original movie.
Everyone will be angry and we will have a 50 page thread on this topic and 6 other threads referencing these events.
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This part I have been thinking for some time as well..TheMikado wrote:My prediction.
There is an obvious tension between Goku and Caulifa.
They will fight with Goku injuring her.
Kale will go SSJ Berserk (Whatever they are calling LSSJ) after seeing this
Fem-Broly now has a motive for hyper focusing on "kakorrot".
We have Broly, if it dosen't scream kakarot it's incomplete..
But the problem I encountered was, do they even know his Saiyan name?
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He introduced himself as Gokû, so I don't think they do.
But when he's the straightman to a goofy character's wacky antics and loses because of that, then he's humiliated imo. Say Brianne uses her parody magical girl powers to purify him and Vegeta's temporarily in some pure goodness mode, that'll be humiliating him.
Vegeta's barely been in this arc so far so I don't know how much attention he's earned in the tournament, but I'd be happy with him somehow outwitting Hit.
I think Caulifla has to lose to an actual villain (say Freeza) and then have Kale go Brolli mode and try to avenge her. Or maybe Kale's mastered Brolli mode and they'll use that second character model for her.
When I think of Vegeta not being humiliated, I think in terms of Vegeta not being used for comedic purposes. If he just gets beat up in a regular fight and loses, say Jiren just overpowers him or Hit beats him with his time skip, that's just that he wasn't strong or clever enough; that's not humiliating.KingKaash wrote:
And just curious, what do you all think would constitute to Vegeta NOT being humiliated? Who would Vegeta have to beat for you to say, "Yea Vegeta got the spotlight and attention he deserves."? For me, if Vegeta takes down Hit or Caulifla, and then even gets beat by someone like Jiren, I think that would be a great showing for Vegeta's character.
But when he's the straightman to a goofy character's wacky antics and loses because of that, then he's humiliated imo. Say Brianne uses her parody magical girl powers to purify him and Vegeta's temporarily in some pure goodness mode, that'll be humiliating him.
Vegeta's barely been in this arc so far so I don't know how much attention he's earned in the tournament, but I'd be happy with him somehow outwitting Hit.
I think Caulifla has to lose to an actual villain (say Freeza) and then have Kale go Brolli mode and try to avenge her. Or maybe Kale's mastered Brolli mode and they'll use that second character model for her.