How much more polarizing can Super get?

[Dragon Ball Gus]

As we all know, Super is a very polarizing series. There's a lot of fans that love this series, a lot of fans that hate it, and some fans that are in the middle.
Two prime examples of this are Episode 66, and Episode 100, the recent one.
There were a lot of fans that loved 66, because of the animation and Vegetto's kickass moments. And then there were a lot of fans that hated 66, because of Vegetto's time limit, and the "asspull" Genki Dama Sword.
Same thing with Episode 100, a lot of fans loved that, and hated it. It's very polarizing.
And I'm just wondering, "How much more polarizing can Super get"? You guys' thoughts on the polarization of Super?

[Ki Breaker]

Well for one it could start world war 3 with some rocking genki swords and others throwing katchin around..
If polarizing is what you want, this seems to be the theoretical limit..

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Who says those moments are polarising? The Trunks moment in #66 has 1,091,760 views on YT the the like to dislike ratio is 4094:197. Does not seem much polarising to me, a lot of people seem to overwhelmingly love it! That is the closest thing we have to gauging whether something is well received or not and it seems it is.

[precita]

The only truly polarizing thing that might happen, since none of the main cast will die permanently, is having characters break up their marriages or ships.

I also await the fandom reaction when Caulifa and Kale are finally confirmed to be lesbian lovers. I fully expect them to have their ship confirmed by the end of this arc.

[ekrolo2]

If Zack Snyder gets involved (I personally like his stuff but I know he's a lightning rod) or Superman guest stars and kills Goku. Either one of those two would fucking break the fandom into smithereens.

[precita]

Hm, a realistic example is Freeza "turning good" since he's back now. But thankfully I don't think that will happen. I am curious what they'll do with Freeza after the tournament.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Who says those moments are polarising? The Trunks moment in #66 has 1,091,760 views on YT the the like to dislike ratio is 4094:197. Does not seem much polarising to me, a lot of people seem to overwhelmingly love it! That is the closest thing we have to gauging whether something is well received or not and it seems it is.

I disagree because as humans we are less likely to seek things we dislike out. Because I dont like that scene I'm much less likely to be viewing it on youtube period. That impacts the ratio.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Who says those moments are polarising? The Trunks moment in #66 has 1,091,760 views on YT the the like to dislike ratio is 4094:197. Does not seem much polarising to me, a lot of people seem to overwhelmingly love it! That is the closest thing we have to gauging whether something is well received or not and it seems it is.

I disagree because as humans we are less likely to seek things we dislike out. Because I dont like that scene I'm much less likely to be viewing it on youtube period. That impacts the ratio.

Regardless, like I said it is the only way to gauge.

[pacz360]

The only truly polarizing thing that might happen, since none of the main cast will die permanently, is having characters break up their marriages or ships.

I also await the fandom reaction when Caulifa and Kale are finally confirmed to be lesbian lovers. I fully expect them to have their ship confirmed by the end of this arc.

Too bad it ain't gonna happen

[dbs fanboy]

ISuperman guest stars and kills Goku. Either one of those two would fucking break the fandom into smithereens.

Shit dude, no need to go that far.....

The Earth would implode if such thing happened.

[Bebi Hatchiyack]

Who says those moments are polarising? The Trunks moment in #66 has 1,091,760 views on YT the the like to dislike ratio is 4094:197. Does not seem much polarising to me, a lot of people seem to overwhelmingly love it! That is the closest thing we have to gauging whether something is well received or not and it seems it is.

I disagree because as humans we are less likely to seek things we dislike out. Because I dont like that scene I'm much less likely to be viewing it on youtube period. That impacts the ratio.

Regardless, like I said it is the only way to gauge.

Take the comment section make two bucket, one filled with positive review and one with negative review and you have another way to gauge.

Then with the negative review and the dislike you make an average note same for the likes and positive/good comments.

[Lord Beerus]

I think if Super where to take elements of GT, particularity SSJ4, and retooled and re-branded them in Super, especially if Super goes beyond EOZ, it would fracture many parts of the fandom.

[Asura]

Who says those moments are polarising? The Trunks moment in #66 has 1,091,760 views on YT the the like to dislike ratio is 4094:197. Does not seem much polarising to me, a lot of people seem to overwhelmingly love it! That is the closest thing we have to gauging whether something is well received or not and it seems it is.

Haha. I can guarantee you with certainty that people did not overwhelmingly love that moment. If it was so overwhelmingly loved, people wouldn't be calling it controversial to begin with. A sample size of ~4300 people isn't really indicative of much either. Especially given the fact that any and every single Dragon Ball clip uploaded to Youtube will be upvoted. I've even seen videos that are like 90% upvoted yet all the top comments are just hating and shitting on Super.

I also await the fandom reaction when Caulifa and Kale are finally confirmed to be lesbian lovers. I fully expect them to have their ship confirmed by the end of this arc.

I hope that was sarcasm. If not, I'm 100% ready to take you up on that bet.


Super will forever be polarizing, and I'm positive that nostalgia only has a little bit to do with it. The writers just do not handle things well sometimes, and the entire idea of having a Broly clone that can stand up to SSB Goku was the stupidest fucking idea in the world, I don't care who wrote it. Honestly just the Broly clone part enough is stupid, throw in her walking through an SSB Kamehameha solely for the sake of recreating a movie scene instead of thinking about how it makes sense and you have stupidity mounted on stupidity.

Some people want consistency, other people don't care for consistency. That will pretty much always be why Super is polarizing.

[ekrolo2]

I think if Super where to take elements of GT, particularity SSJ4, and retooled and re-branded them in Super, especially if Super goes beyond EOZ, it would fracture many parts of the fandom.

They've already put in Luud, might as well put in 4 too. If this thing can pander to Broly people, it can pander to us GT people too.

[Lord Beerus]

I think if Super where to take elements of GT, particularity SSJ4, and retooled and re-branded them in Super, especially if Super goes beyond EOZ, it would fracture many parts of the fandom.

They've already put in Luud, might as well put in 4 too. If this thing can pander to Broly people, it can pander to us GT people too.

I don't know if a lot of the causal fanbase even remember what Luud looks like. But a lot of the fandom know of SSJ4 in some capacity.

[ekrolo2]

I think if Super where to take elements of GT, particularity SSJ4, and retooled and re-branded them in Super, especially if Super goes beyond EOZ, it would fracture many parts of the fandom.

They've already put in Luud, might as well put in 4 too. If this thing can pander to Broly people, it can pander to us GT people too.

I don't know if a lot of the causal fanbase even remember what Luud looks like. But a lot of the fandom know of SSJ4 in some capacity.

My point still stands: if you can bring everyone with the beginnings of taste to near death from the Broly horseshit with Kale, you can throw the GT people a bone with a new rendition of 4.

[Chuquita]

Short answer: Heroic Freeza.

Longer answer: Making everything in Super meaningless by using the super dragon balls to unwish everything that happened just so EoZ and GT make sense again. The ultimate reestablishing of the previous status quo.

That would be a big sticking it to the viewers because it would make all that time they spent getting involved wasted.

It's not impossible. I think a few 1980's U.S. shows pulled that stunt. Dallas and Newhart? They're both before my time and I've never seen either, but I've seen articles that've talked about such things.

[Asura]

They've already put in Luud, might as well put in 4 too. If this thing can pander to Broly people, it can pander to us GT people too.

I don't know if a lot of the causal fanbase even remember what Luud looks like. But a lot of the fandom know of SSJ4 in some capacity.

My point still stands: if you can bring everyone with the beginnings of taste to near death from the Broly horseshit with Kale, you can throw the GT people a bone with a new rendition of 4.

I don't think the bone would be well received if SSJ4 was redesigned in any way. People REALLY like SSJ4 because of its design, so if they were going to put SSJ4 into Super and modify the way it looked, people would be pissed. I'd be pissed too.

[Alruneia]

Put simply: Quite a lot.
The other replies should give you a rough idea on how it can be done, but Super can get more polarising by

• Breaking up pairings (Quite a lot of people were mighty angry at 18's comment in Episode 100. That should be a good indicator.)
• Going into GT territory (A lot of people are happy Super doesn't use GT's concepts and would like it to stay that way.)
• Phasing out characters (Replacing characters such as Gohan, Vegeta or dare I say Goku himself would not go over well.)
• Making movie content canon (Berserk Kale has shown us this.)

That's off the top of my head, but I'm certain more points can be added.

[Bebi Hatchiyack]

I don't know if a lot of the causal fanbase even remember what Luud looks like. But a lot of the fandom know of SSJ4 in some capacity.

My point still stands: if you can bring everyone with the beginnings of taste to near death from the Broly horseshit with Kale, you can throw the GT people a bone with a new rendition of 4.

I don't think the bone would be well received if SSJ4 was redesigned in any way. People REALLY like SSJ4 because of its design, so if they were going to put SSJ4 into Super and modify the way it looked, people would be pissed. I'd be pissed too.

I like the concept of the SSJ4 but not his design and I can show many fanart who did a better job to portray what I believe would be a better Zaru Saiya-jin. Personnally Dragon Ball can function like Star Wars, takes from the movies / videogames / Dragon Ball GT character or idea from and retool them for the Canon. (see my connection with Star Wars here)