Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.
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Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.
So i'm gonna specify that this isn't hate or anything i don't hate Vegeta and i feel neutral towards him, so i feel like people don't want Vegeta to get eliminated early in the tournament and i don't understand why ? Vegeta as a side character had a great deal of screen time and cool moments in every arc compared to all the other supporting characters, Vegeta always shines the most after Goku, so why is it not okay for this arc to make an exception ? especially if he goes down after a cool moment or two ?
Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.
I quite like Vegeta, but I do understand the sentiment. Just because he's one of Universe 7's strongest fighters doesn't necessarily mean he'll be one of the last ones to go out. If anything, having him be among the first to lose in the tournament could bolster any sort of unpredictability going on in the arc.
Of course, that doesn't mean he'll take a loss so soon for sure. I wouldn't personally mind it though.
Of course, that doesn't mean he'll take a loss so soon for sure. I wouldn't personally mind it though.
Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.
Vegeta definitely should go down early, and I think he's going down third after Tenshinhan if the ending is any indication.
His character wouldn't be wasted either because he already did so much. He fought alongside Goku and eliminated all of Universe 9, we saw him take on Botamo/Magnetta for a while, we saw him fight some random characters in the background and now he's fighting Brianne.
His character wouldn't be wasted either because he already did so much. He fought alongside Goku and eliminated all of Universe 9, we saw him take on Botamo/Magnetta for a while, we saw him fight some random characters in the background and now he's fighting Brianne.
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This is the one time for me personally I think it's ok for Vegeta to lose early. Because we have such a big supporting cast that can pick up the slack of losing a main character like Vegeta, namely Frieza, Gohan and Android 17. Normally if this was one of those Goku & Vegeta vs villain fights and Vegeta got beat down quickly then I think we'd all grow tired of Goku lasting way longer fighting against the villain with Vegeta sidelined.
I also think it'd be nice to see Vegeta win this whole ToP because how often do we see Vegeta save everyone? But of course that is extremely unlikely.
I also think it'd be nice to see Vegeta win this whole ToP because how often do we see Vegeta save everyone? But of course that is extremely unlikely.
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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.
Hell no seriously people drop it
Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.
I wouldn't mind Vegeta winning the tournament (VERY unlikely to happen) and I also wouldn't mind Vegeta to get elliminated early.
Of course, the first version won't happen so why I would also like Vegeta to get so elliminated early?
It would be good for his character development. Maybe finally he would realize that he can't be reckless and conceited guy every time. His character development was wasted at some point. Wasted since the tournament had started and since Vegeta got too COCKY. He saw his son's world disappear right? So why the hell he can't realize how big is stake this time? After experiencing firsthand the terror of Zeno destroying Universe?
I just hope he will beat the crap out of Rebrianne and it would be also nice to see him beating Hit and that's surely enough for Prince as for this arc.
Of course, the first version won't happen so why I would also like Vegeta to get so elliminated early?
It would be good for his character development. Maybe finally he would realize that he can't be reckless and conceited guy every time. His character development was wasted at some point. Wasted since the tournament had started and since Vegeta got too COCKY. He saw his son's world disappear right? So why the hell he can't realize how big is stake this time? After experiencing firsthand the terror of Zeno destroying Universe?
I just hope he will beat the crap out of Rebrianne and it would be also nice to see him beating Hit and that's surely enough for Prince as for this arc.
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There's no real incentive story wise for Vegeta to get far in this tournament. Everything is pointing toward him getting an early fall.pacz360 wrote:Hell no seriously people drop it
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Like what exactly? Some shitty ass theory you and others keep pushing as definite?precita wrote:There's no real incentive story wise for Vegeta to get far in this tournament. Everything is pointing toward him getting an early fall.pacz360 wrote:Hell no seriously people drop it
Vegeta is fighting for his wife and newborn child that's all he needs to go far in the tournament
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But Vegeta never mentions them. Likewise it's not so much Vegeta himself, but him taking out is a serious blow to U7 being one of the strongest fighters there, and his loss will probably make Gohan, Piccolo and the others really start to get more serious and realize how high the stakes are.
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Vegeta knows what's at stake and he hasn't been careless so far if anything goku been the careless oneMercenary wrote:I wouldn't mind Vegeta winning the tournament (VERY unlikely to happen) and I also wouldn't mind Vegeta to get elliminated early.
Of course, the first version won't happen so why I would also like Vegeta to get so elliminated early?
It would be good for his character development. Maybe finally he would realize that he can't be reckless and conceited guy every time. His character development was wasted at some point. Wasted since the tournament had started and since Vegeta got too COCKY. He saw his son's world disappear right? So why the hell he can't realize how big is stake this time? After experiencing firsthand the terror of Zeno destroying Universe?
I just hope he will beat the crap out of Rebrianne and it would be also nice to see him beating Hit and that's surely enough for Prince as for this arc.
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You may be right but Goku has the plot armor. Vegeta not.pacz360 wrote:Vegeta knows what's at stake and he hasn't been careless so far if anything goku been the careless oneMercenary wrote:I wouldn't mind Vegeta winning the tournament (VERY unlikely to happen) and I also wouldn't mind Vegeta to get elliminated early.
Of course, the first version won't happen so why I would also like Vegeta to get so elliminated early?
It would be good for his character development. Maybe finally he would realize that he can't be reckless and conceited guy every time. His character development was wasted at some point. Wasted since the tournament had started and since Vegeta got too COCKY. He saw his son's world disappear right? So why the hell he can't realize how big is stake this time? After experiencing firsthand the terror of Zeno destroying Universe?
I just hope he will beat the crap out of Rebrianne and it would be also nice to see him beating Hit and that's surely enough for Prince as for this arc.
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So what gohan hasn't even mentions videl nor pan once in the tourney yet we know he's fighting for there sakeprecita wrote:But Vegeta never mentions them. Likewise it's not so much Vegeta himself, but him taking out is a serious blow to U7 being one of the strongest fighters there, and his loss will probably make Gohan, Piccolo and the others really start to get more serious and realize how high the stakes are.
Plus you can find other ways to create tension that doesn't involve taking vegeta out early in the game.
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Vegeta has been number 2 guy behind goku ever since bogMercenary wrote:You may be right but Goku has the plot armor. Vegeta not.pacz360 wrote:Vegeta knows what's at stake and he hasn't been careless so far if anything goku been the careless oneMercenary wrote:I wouldn't mind Vegeta winning the tournament (VERY unlikely to happen) and I also wouldn't mind Vegeta to get elliminated early.
Of course, the first version won't happen so why I would also like Vegeta to get so elliminated early?
It would be good for his character development. Maybe finally he would realize that he can't be reckless and conceited guy every time. His character development was wasted at some point. Wasted since the tournament had started and since Vegeta got too COCKY. He saw his son's world disappear right? So why the hell he can't realize how big is stake this time? After experiencing firsthand the terror of Zeno destroying Universe?
I just hope he will beat the crap out of Rebrianne and it would be also nice to see him beating Hit and that's surely enough for Prince as for this arc.
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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.
I don't know what to think of Vegeta this arc. The writing for him has been all over the place lately. I don't know if I want him to be kicked out early or not.
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For story sake it would be foolish for Vegeta to be eliminated early.
It must keep up the theme of Goku's rival.
Getting knocked out early would not exemplify that.
It must keep up the theme of Goku's rival.
Getting knocked out early would not exemplify that.
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I would accept Vegeta's early withdrawal from the tournament with open arms. He's already been instrumental in the downfall of Universe 9 and is poised to fight U2's most famed competitor next episode. If you want to push it further, I think someone mentioned Toshio confirming that Vegeta would have a rematch with Hit. How much more can be allocated to his character before it starts to interfere with the scraps left for the humans and Piccolo? Already Goku seems to be gravitating towards just about every major confrontation in every episode. Some concessions need to be made or it'll all devolve back into Goku and Vegeta centralising the events around themselves, or at least them being involved with fights that otherwise may have no connection to them.
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That hasn't been a focused theme for sometime now. The show itself promotes him as Goku's "eternal rival" but doesn't actually portray him as a rival worth taking seriously.Miracles wrote:For story sake it would be foolish for Vegeta to be eliminated early.
It must keep up the theme of Goku's rival.
Getting knocked out early would not exemplify that.
Regardless, I wouldn't mind Vegeta leaving early, but nothing points to him leaving early at all besides some people's theories on why they think he should leave early. I honestly don't see him losing unless he gets a double KO with Hitto, an underhanded tactic involving Freeza in some way, or just getting his shit pushed in by Jiren and all of those three possibilities I don't see happening until fairly late in this tournament.
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We just had Goku try and goad Vegeta into going training with him for the TOP.Jigurashi wrote:That hasn't been a focused theme for sometime now. The show itself promotes him as Goku's "eternal rival" but doesn't actually portray him as a rival worth taking seriously.Miracles wrote:For story sake it would be foolish for Vegeta to be eliminated early.
It must keep up the theme of Goku's rival.
Getting knocked out early would not exemplify that.
Regardless, I wouldn't mind Vegeta leaving early, but nothing points to him leaving early at all besides some people's theories on why they think he should leave early. I honestly don't see him losing unless he gets a double KO with Hitto, an underhanded tactic involving Freeza in some way, or just getting his shit pushed in by Jiren and all of those three possibilities I don't see happening until fairly late in this tournament.
Goku saying how he would surpass Vegeta. Vegeta refused cause he was waiting for his baby.
The rivalry has always been there throughout Super.
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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.
I don't think he is going early, but I don't think he will be one of the last fighters either. I think Goku, Frieza, and Gohan will outlast Vegeta, but the others will probably go out before Vegeta.
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I agree with the drama part.
Vegeta being taken out would be a pretty massive blow for U7 as Champa himself said and with Goku turning his attention to Jiren and Toppo, there's very few other characters in U7 to keep Frieza in check; possibly Gohan and that's it.
Vegeta being taken out would be a pretty massive blow for U7 as Champa himself said and with Goku turning his attention to Jiren and Toppo, there's very few other characters in U7 to keep Frieza in check; possibly Gohan and that's it.
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