omaro34 wrote:supercat wrote:namekiansaiyan wrote:
Don't even try and say Roshi has power anywhere near Piccolo. Roshi is the weakest on the team but is skillful.
At this point I wouldn't even know where to place Roshi. But if they suddenly decided to have him stronger than Piccolo, I wouldn't really care, since neither of them would be relevant on the power scale against fighters like Goku, Vegeta, Android 17, and Frieza. Goku was actually impressed with Roshi yet he never once really said anything of that sort about Piccolo, even after tanking a fully charged attack from Piccolo.
Roshi the weakest? I believe Tien, one of the most pathetic characters to have existed probably takes the role as the weakest member on the team.
Roshi has better feats, and he completely humiliated Tien, though that's not really a big feat at all, given how often that happens.
I don't see how anyone could even like Tien.
What's the purpose of bringing up how in your eyes Roshi put up a better fight against Frost than Piccolo did? It's obvious you have an agenda and some vendetta against Piccolo and Tien for that matter.
You've stated your opinion numerous times. We get it. To you Piccolo is weak and pathetic. But you sound like a broken record, and after each episode where Piccolo doesn't even make an appearance you still try to find a way to say the same old nonsense.
Try to talk about another aspect of Dragonball for a change, just a suggestion.
We know who the top guys are. And by the way, your precious Vegeta got sucked into a Mafuba jar and if it weren't for Roshi he would have been finished. How can the mighty prince have been so careless?
I don't know what hurts the Napoleon pride more, getting saved by an old man or dying in a humiliating fashion on Namek against Freeza who dictated everything in your life till that point and killed your people.
Piccolo may not have made an appearance, but I felt it was worth discussing since this is an opponent that Piccolo fought in a very debatable battle. I just thought it was interesting that Roshi appeared to have given Frost a bit more of a challenge. This may not have been the case in-universe, but it sure did seem like it. And by the looks of it, it seems a few others also agree with that.
Yes, I'm pretty sure most fans know who the top fighters are. If you haven't noticed, I don't really talk about how powerful Vegeta is. And this is purely because it's a pretty known thing that doesn't really need any reiteration. People often seem talk as if Piccolo is this master strategist whose skills can't be rivaled, and I highly disagree, and feel it's always fun and interesting to debate about. The power gap between him and an exhausted Frost is probably way way lower than the power gap between a completely exhausted Roshi and a fresh, stronger than before Frost, yet Roshi had the courage to actually try to battle Frost hand to hand, something Piccolo went out of his way not to do. So of course to someone who doesn't know Dragon Ball, Roshi would look stronger given all those circumstances.
I actually thought Vegeta's collaboration with Roshi was really cool. It not only showed how much he's changed, but that he does actually care about some of the other Z-fighters. He did apparently try to save Roshi twice. And even though it was Roshi who ended up saving Vegeta, Vegeta still got the last laugh by scaring Frost away and knocking out one of universe 6's more challenging fighters to defeat. So in a sense, he got to redeem himself.
Believe it or not, I'd actually love to see Piccolo power up and catch up to SSB-tier contenders like Goku, Vegeta, Android 17, and Frieza. I feel he has potential to be great, and not just some fodder who goes grocery shopping.